Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-26 Thread Wietse Venema
OK, What can you recommend to me to have postfix do VERP for a recipient listed in an alias file, and where this recipient is specified via an :include: statement? You invoke sendmail -XV ... as per the instructions from Majordomo. Postfix VERP support works for remote

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-26 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 03:22:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: OK, What can you recommend to me to have postfix do VERP for a recipient listed in an alias file, and where this recipient is specified via an :include: statement? You invoke sendmail -XV ... as per the

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 03:22:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: OK, What can you recommend to me to have postfix do VERP for a recipient listed in an alias file, and where this recipient is specified via an :include: statement? You invoke sendmail

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-26 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 04:19:18PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 03:22:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: OK, What can you recommend to me to have postfix do VERP for a recipient listed in an alias file, and where this recipient is specified

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: What is happening is that the postfix server receives the message on port 25, via ESMTP, then delivers it via the the alias file to a list of recipients, recorded in the file /some/file/in/the/filesystem, which is included via a line in /etc/postfix/aliases : For submission

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: For postfix proper, does postfix invoke the postfix sendmail command somewhere in the process as an MTA to deliver a mail, - for aliases expansion? The Postfix sendmail command RECEIVES mail INTO Postfix. The

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: For postfix proper, does postfix invoke the postfix sendmail command somewhere in the process as an MTA to deliver a mail, - for aliases

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:56:49AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: For postfix proper, does postfix invoke the postfix sendmail command

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Jones
On 6/25/2010 9:40 AM, Keld Simonsen wrote: I am not using majordomo here, only postfix. So should I then have a sendmail -XV included in the alias file? I do not do that for majordomo. Or should I so something in master.cf with the SMPT handler or some such? You submit the mail using

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:56:49AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: For postfix proper, does postfix invoke the postfix sendmail

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 04:20:56PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:56:49AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-25 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 06/26/2010 01:01 AM, Keld Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 04:20:56PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:56:49AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Thu, Jun

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: For postfix proper, does postfix invoke the postfix sendmail command somewhere in the process as an MTA to deliver a mail, - for aliases expansion? The Postfix sendmail command RECEIVES mail INTO Postfix. The Postfix sendmail command is not used to DELIVER mail. Wietse

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: You configre the program that invokes the Postfix sendmail command, so that it invokes the command like so: sendmail -XV -f owner-listname other-arguments... With Majordomo the sendmail command line is in a config file, buried in Perl syntax. Other list managers

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-23 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:24:34AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: I'm happy to naswer questions about Postfix in the limited time that I have. If you need custom work on other applications you learn to do it yourself, or you find someone else. That is certainly an understandable position, and I

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:52:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: Hi I am running majordomo with postfix for a number of email list, and I have some trouble tracking down bounces. I thought that if I could

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 07:34:17AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:52:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: Hi I am running majordomo with postfix for a number of email list, and I

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: Another approach is to use VERP which sends one message per recipient and encodes the recipent in the bounce address. See http://www.postfix.org/VERP_README.html I am trying the VERP way, and have a little difficulty to understand what to do. I

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:39:31AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: Another approach is to use VERP which sends one message per recipient and encodes the recipent in the bounce address. See http://www.postfix.org/VERP_README.html I am trying the VERP way,

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: The VERP_README says: In order to make VERP useful with majordomo etc. mailing lists, you would configure the list manager to submit mail according to one of the following two forms: Postfix 2.3 and later: % sendmail -XV -f owner-listname

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-22 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:48:11AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: The VERP_README says: In order to make VERP useful with majordomo etc. mailing lists, you would configure the list manager to submit mail according to one of the following two forms:

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-06-21 Thread Keld Simonsen
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 08:52:04PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: Keld Simonsen: Hi I am running majordomo with postfix for a number of email list, and I have some trouble tracking down bounces. I thought that if I could have some customized Received: headers with the envelope

customizing received: headers

2010-05-28 Thread Keld Simonsen
Hi I am running majordomo with postfix for a number of email list, and I have some trouble tracking down bounces. I thought that if I could have some customized Received: headers with the envelope receiver logged eg by for user then I would be able to track some mutating adressees. Seems like

Re: customizing received: headers

2010-05-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Keld Simonsen: Hi I am running majordomo with postfix for a number of email list, and I have some trouble tracking down bounces. I thought that if I could have some customized Received: headers with the envelope receiver logged eg by for user then I would be able to track some mutating