Re: Solving filter list management problem (was RMW in browser)

2006-03-23 Thread Rick Lecoat
I do the same thing -- 'dummy' filters that act as dividers. Folders would be preferable, of course, as they would, when collapsed, actually shorten the filter list considerably, whereas our current workaround lengthens it. From my own point of view, the filter organisation issue is a completely

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Wayne Brissette
Oh, think we can have both, don't you? Rick I tend to be more of a lurker these days due to time. But I think Matthias hit this one on the head. There are a lot of areas that need attention in PowerMail, more so than others. IMAP support has always been hit-and-miss, and while I only use it

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Lecoat
Oh, think we can have both, don't you? Rick -- G5 2GHz x2 :: 2GB RAM :: 10.4.5 :: PM 5.2.3 :: 3 pane mode Shark Attack: A Design Studio www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Matthias Schmidt on 22/3/06 at 14:07 On the other side, imho smart folders would be even

Solving filter list management problem (was RMW in browser)

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Rick Lecoat said: Actually Matthias, the folders that I would like to see in the filter window would be for organisation only and would be completely transparent to the filter run-order. Ie: Folder A filter 1 filter 2 filter 3 Folder B filter 4 filter 5 Would still result

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Rick, it's not that I didn't understand, what you want. And I also think it would be nice as an option, especially if one has tons of different filters. On the other side, imho smart folders would be even nicer to have and a better IMAP support. I guess coding and testing resources of ctm are

Re: RMW in browser (smart folders and filters)

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
C. A. Niemiec said: I can pull a specific person's (smart folder) account to the top of my Folder List if it's getting more activity (I'm assuming user-resortable Folder Lists -- _CTM, see how useful this can be?_ :) ). Or, if there's a lull, I could drop that smart list back into the IBM

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Lecoat
Original message: Received from Mikael Byström on 22/3/06 at 13:39 I'm still thinking about the problem space and trying to understand the somewhat obscure suggestions that have been made. Good for you. Me, I'm going to get on with some work. Rick

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Lecoat
Actually Matthias, the folders that I would like to see in the filter window would be for organisation only and would be completely transparent to the filter run-order. Ie: Folder A filter 1 filter 2 filter 3 Folder B filter 4 filter 5 Would still result in the filters

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Christian Roth
Mikael Byström wrote: One blatant error in your suggestion is that it requires that the 'smart' in your smart folders is more or less perfect. Are you sure you would like to rely on the current search technology with its limitations for organizing your messages? You know of the limitations,

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Marlyse Comte said: The Smart folders act somewhat like filters, so now I do not need to file into different folders and thus do not need the filter, I can view the mail within the Smart folders instead. This saves me 10 filters in the Filter window and thus the Filter window will be less

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Matthias Schmidt said: I understand that feature request of 'having everything in window' very well and I support it. Imho it doesn't mean breaking the GUI of PM. The approch everything in one Window is anyway supported by PM and was broken by the RMW. Say what? It was broken? What version was

Re(3): RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread computer artwork by subhash
If there will be smart folders in PM, please make them able to be deleted. I don't want to have them in my folder list because I like that I do not have to scroll for a folder and all the space is used with my own folders. That means: Smart folder are OK for me, if I don't have to use them and

Re: RMW in browser (smart folders and filters)

2006-03-22 Thread C. A. Niemiec
Thus Smart Folders are VERY much like using filters ... You say if I can assign these criteria to each folder instead within *the filter window*, this will leave me with less clutter in *the filter window*. Read that sentence again. Is it correct? If so, what did you actually mean? It's

Re(2): RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Marlyse Comte
Mikael - I've never seen you like this, or I do not remember... but it is as if we are on different planets right now, trying to speak the same language but fail utterly. I do believe I've explained myself clearly in the past emails and so did Rick on this subject and thus I do not want to

Re: RMW in browser (was Re: MacBook Pro, PM 5.2.3 Rebuilding Sort Indices)

2006-03-22 Thread C. A. Niemiec
Browser window out of the way to access that open mail message underneath that I'm writing, or... 2. Windowshade _one_ window (the Mail Brower) out of view to do as #1 or to grab something off the Desktop _instead of having to windowshade two_ (Mail Browser, then the RMW). (I know, Expose yada yada

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Mikael, I understand that feature request of 'having everything in window' very well and I support it. Imho it doesn't mean breaking the GUI of PM. The approch everything in one Window is anyway supported by PM and was broken by the RMW. Smart Folders would be an alternative to bring the old GUI

Re: RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Marlyse Comte said: First off, I realize that you are absolutely on the other side of our viewpoint and I will not try to convince you in any manner. There are no two sides in this issue. I don't take sides anyway. I think and reflect. Rick's posting made it clear why one window is - for us -

Re(2): RMW in browser

2006-03-22 Thread Marlyse Comte
Mikael - First off, I realize that you are absolutely on the other side of our viewpoint and I will not try to convince you in any manner. Rick's posting made it clear why one window is - for us - way more appealing than having to deal constantly with 2 windows overlapping on the same screen.

Re: RMW in browser (was Re: MacBook Pro, PM 5.2.3 Rebuilding Sort Indices)

2006-03-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Paul Collett said: a folder dedicated to all your recent mail that will still be there even if you shut down, plus a copy of the mail in it's home folder. Generally, I feel that because duplicate messages requires that all message attributes are kept synched to be truly useful, your solution is

Re: RMW in browser (was Re: MacBook Pro, PM 5.2.3 Rebuilding Sort Indices)

2006-03-22 Thread Andy Fragen
Yes. All one has to do is spend a few minutes in Mail and play around with the smart folders to see how unbelievably powerful they are. After all what is RMW but a smart window with the criteria of 'new message since last restart'. -- Andy Fragen On Tue, Mar 21, 2006, Rick Lecoat said: The

Re: RMW in browser (was Re: MacBook Pro, PM 5.2.3 Rebuilding Sort Indices)

2006-03-21 Thread Rick Lecoat
Mikael; I certainly agree that newcomers should be amply catered for; they are the lifeblood of any small developer. However, this is POWERmail... and having a greater degree of sophistication available for those who want it would seem to go along with the name, and cannot be a bad thing

RMW in browser (was Re: MacBook Pro, PM 5.2.3 Rebuilding Sort Indices)

2006-03-21 Thread Mikael Byström
Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: And the Recent Mail window integrated into the browser... This doesn't make much sense actually. What's the gain? The Recent Mail window is one button press action away. It's an overview of what recent messages there are in in the browsers database. These