At 14:47 2013-04-04, Virgil Bierschwale vbier...@gmail.com wrote:
I can probably help you with setting up a blog as I started doing it
in 2007 with Keep America At Work.
I'm in the process of creating MomAndPopAds.com using
asmallorange.com as a host
First time I've used them and they give
Hi Ken,
VFP keeps only one copy of the code around, but will use memory to store
the array property just like it does with array variables. Overall I
wouldn't expect a big difference in resource huge. Less memory used for
code, but more memory used for the object.
You'll experience a reduction
On 04/04/2013 8:15 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
Since I first became unemployable in 2003, I have listened to all of
the FoxPro developers talk about Microsoft killing off Visual FoxPro.
Yet I have not seen anybody attempt to buy Visual FoxPro from
Microsoft to take it into the next decade and
Virgil,
I respect your courage.
IMO, Microsoft would do something with VFP (recycle or sell) only if
(1) it could provide some additional Windows sales,
(2) such additional Windows sales were needed
(3) the amount of Windows sales that VFP could provide was significant
enough (more than 5%).
Virgil,
The expression pushing water uphill comes to mind and you may well be better
off trying that as opposed to what you are proposing.
VFP is dead, not stunned, not slightly concussed, but DEAD. Yes, we all know
how good it is, how simple it is to build an integrated Database app from
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
Virgil,
The expression pushing water uphill comes to mind and you may well be
better off trying that as opposed to what you are proposing.
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hmm
It looks like Windows sales are no longer doing well
PC sales are no longer what they were, by extension Windows does less
well.
, neither on client
workstations nor on servers (none of the top internet companies runs on
Windows Server);
None of them run on Apple or IBM either ...
we all were beginners when we had an idea.
If you have a concept that you want to push and you can type, you have the
skills that you need already
Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith and get your toes wet one step at
a time.
but its your call.
If I can help, I will
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well, I read all the messages and it seems that nobody comprehends something
very simple.
My attempt has nothing to do with saving foxpro.
It merely is a tool to chip away at the Achilles heel of a game of musical
countries that is slowly but surely driving all of our wages to zero in a
race
WOW Jean - that's an AWESOME Link you gave us! Very wild indeed!!!
But - Dave - I thought the old saying was pushing a ROCK Uphill. Or am I
wrong - and sit corrected???
:-)
-K-
On 4/5/2013 5:13 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk
Kurt,
Despite Jean's solution...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pushing%20water%20uphill
Dave
..oh, and best of luck Virgil and I do admire your sentiments and dedication
but General Custer probably thought the same!
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so you are saying you would prefer this?
http://keepamericaatwork.com/china-india-multinational-corporations-listen-up
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Kurt,
Despite Jean's
Or Lord Cardigan ?
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but General Custer probably thought the same!
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On 05/04/13 11:15, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
Since I first became unemployable in 2003, I have listened to all of the
FoxPro developers talk about Microsoft killing off Visual FoxPro.
Yet I have not seen anybody attempt to buy Visual FoxPro from Microsoft
to take it into the next decade and
thanks for that.
A wealth of information there.
I don't really care one way or the other as to the future of foxpro.
my interest lies in beating microsoft with a tool that they consider
inferior by using employees that they consider inferior.
Perhaps this video will show you what I can't
Virg. If you don't care about Foxpro and just want to make a statement,
why not do it with open source instead instead of wasting time and money
with M$?
Oh because you are on a cause/mission and not in a business.
Is this all to fix the State of CA's issue? Somehow I don't think you are
going
because Microsoft does not own open source.
They are the only corporation out there bribing the government with offers
of $10,000.00 per head saying they can't find qualified developers when
there are so many developers out of work.
business has nothing to do with this.
Mission is to do
For those that are willing to open their eyes.
http://www.trivisonno.com/quivers-brainwashed
Virgil Bierschwale
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Why not consider collection(s) or list over the array?
The collection seems so much more flexible than dealing with an array.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Ken Dibble krdib...@stny.rr.com wrote:
This may be a question for Christof or someone with similar deep knowledge
of how VFP works.
Gene, I think the blog market is very crowded and being found as a new
writer will require a massive amount of content from your fingers to make
your splash. Funny thing is that readers expect a ton of info forever.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Gene Wirchenko ge...@telus.net wrote:
Dear
The collection seems so much more flexible than dealing with an array.
In VFP it isn't really... Let's see:
Multiple columns: Not supported. You need an object based on EMPTY as a
collection item, then use ADDPROPERTY() to assign values. Or create a class
and add an instance.
Sorting: Only one
In ftp://foxincloud.com/ab/abArray.prg, you'll find free array functions:
aAdd
aAppend
aChars
aClear
aColDel
aColsDel
aColsDelim
aColsDelim_nColsSep
aColsIns
aDistinct
aFilter
aLinesCols
aLitteral
aLocate
aLookup
aPop
aPush
aReverse
aRowCopyIns
aRowDel
aRowMove
aSelect
aStrExtract
aSubstract
that is because you talk about the blog market as one.
It is not one.
he might have a idea for a blog where there is no competition at all
As for readers expecting a ton of info forever, when you set out to build a
blog, you are telling the people that you are an expert in the area that
your
Virge I agree that blogging and market are close together in many terms.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Virgil Bierschwale vbier...@gmail.comwrote:
that is because you talk about the blog market as one.
It is not one.
he might have a idea for a blog where there is no competition at all
On 5 April 2013 14:26, Virgil Bierschwale vbier...@gmail.com wrote:
because Microsoft does not own open source.
MicroSoft has released plenty of open source stuff.
Off the top of my head:
- ASP.NET MVC
- IronPython IronRuby
- All the CodePlex stuff
- Linux Kernel contributions (for HyperV I
And throw in that they sold more copies of UNIX than any other company(even
IBM) and you're up there with the fairies...
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Thierry,
Link to AB.H missing
Dave
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In ftp://foxincloud.com/ab/abArray.prg, you'll find
to me a collection is very similar to xml. I can maintain collections
within collections. Just what I want to do.
A Customer object could have an Orders collection to it that define thw
Who, what, When, IsPaid that we all want to know.
An invoice will have the Customer Object that maintains
ftp://foxincloud.com/ab/
to grab the whole package
Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
http://foxincloud.com/
Le 05/04/13 17:16, Dave Crozier a écrit :
Thierry,
Link to AB.H missing
Dave
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In .NET it's a whole different situation and I totally agree that
collections (or other List types) are a great tool. Just not in VFP. In VFP
a cursor is a 100 times faster than a collection, so you would use customer
cursors, order cursors, etc. Easy to query using SQL. Flexible with
relations,
You'll experience a reduction in performance albeit a small one for two
reasons. Every access to the array now has to first resolve the object
reference, which takes some time. More noticeably, though, is replacing
direct array function calls with a user defined method. A method call takes
some
At 07:32 2013-04-05, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:
Gene, I think the blog market is very crowded and being found as a new
writer will require a massive amount of content from your fingers to make
your splash. Funny thing is that readers expect a ton of info forever.
I am
As Ted always says, you need to test in your environment to determine the best
tradeoff between performance and maintainability. Are you deploying
applications in a real-time environment? Are you working with large arrays
inside loops with 1000s of iterations? Then performance overhead is
At 10:37 2013-04-05, Richard Kaye rk...@artfact.com wrote:
As Ted always says, you need to test in your environment to
determine the best tradeoff between performance and maintainability.
Are you deploying
And pick your poison.
One of the great things about VFP is how flexible it
As Ted always says, you need to test in your environment to determine the
best tradeoff between performance and maintainability. Are you deploying
applications in a real-time environment? Are you working with large
arrays inside loops with 1000s of iterations? Then performance overhead is
Probably not. :-)
Although if you're staying in the warm comfortable VFP zone it might be worth
the time to refactor the array stuff to use cursors. As Christof mentioned, VFP
is way faster with data (no surprise there) than arrays.
--
rk
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You wrote that you were going to re-cook your framework one more time to
knock off the rust in the areas that needed a tweaking so you could then
port it to the new language.
I would just say that the amount of time you focus on VFP tweaks will not
pan out across other languages. I would only
Probably not. :-)
Although if you're staying in the warm comfortable VFP zone it might be
worth the time to refactor the array stuff to use cursors. As Christof
mentioned, VFP is way faster with data (no surprise there) than arrays.
Well I won't be in VFP forever. I work a 35-hour week. IT
You wrote that you were going to re-cook your framework one more time to
knock off the rust in the areas that needed a tweaking so you could then
port it to the new language.
I would just say that the amount of time you focus on VFP tweaks will not
pan out across other languages. I would only
If you need funding for your project, you might try www.kickstarter.com
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I've tried many of them with no luck.
pretty well decided that software for the most part is cheap so I will pay
for it myself as I can afford too.
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