Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Newton
Michael Madigan wrote: Could you imagine how fast you could re-index a dBASE III database on today's machine? Yes, but still a lot slower than a Foxbase one ! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-10 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/9/07, Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or as the commercials say Security is priceless I think Microsoft is confusing priceless with unavailable at any price. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-10 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: On 4/9/07, Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or as the commercials say Security is priceless I think Microsoft is confusing priceless with unavailable at any price. ROFLMAO Good one, Ted!!! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-10 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner =  = I think they've paid the manufacturers a kickback for the roll out. = Desktops and Laptops have been selling for as low as I've = seen them in years just as vista was being rolled out. =  = In this case, I don't believe in

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-10 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully =  = Yes but a Linux install only takes 30 minutes. What happened?!?! = {Kevin ducks behind desk} =  = -Kevin Yes, but I had to get it online to download the distro first. This woman to whom I am married keeps making the same mistake. First

[NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Bill Anderson
Windows Vista is Microsoft's next-generation desktop operating system. But does it provide next-gen performance on today's PCs vs. its predecessor, Windows XP? The CRN Test Center set out to compare Vista's performance against XP's. The result: You might not want to move off XP just yet. But

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Apr 9, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Bill Anderson wrote: unless it's imperative that users have an operating system with a more exciting look and feel, XP will offer better performance than Vista. Everybody who is surprised by this, please raise your hand... OK, I thought so. Carry on.

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/9/07, Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As suspected, Vista hampered .Net's performance as well. Wassa matta? Did they write it in DotNet or something? Yuck, yuck... -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Roche Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:12 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance On 4/9/07, Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As suspected, Vista hampered .Net's performance as well. Wassa matta? Did they write it in DotNet or something

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Justin Darnell
Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance On 4/9/07, Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As suspected, Vista hampered .Net's performance as well. Wassa matta? Did they write it in DotNet or something? Yuck, yuck... -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
Justin Darnell wrote: snipped A lot of other stuff seems slower just because of resource considerations. The OS does now take up 600 megs of RAM on my machine by itself. Which means, to be running FoxPro, VS, FireFox, Thunderbird, iTunes, SQL Server Express, etcyou probably need two

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Justin Darnell
For the record, I'm not defending it. I just have found the good in the cards I've been dealt. J On 4/9/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Darnell wrote: snipped A lot of other stuff seems slower just because of resource considerations. The OS does now take up

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Derek Kalweit
snipped A lot of other stuff seems slower just because of resource considerations. The OS does now take up 600 megs of RAM on my machine by itself. Which means, to be running FoxPro, VS, FireFox, Thunderbird, iTunes, SQL Server Express, etcyou probably need two gigs to leave wiggle

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Hal Kaplan
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions =  = Wow...2 GB...just to have wiggle room! Where's my copy of = DOS 3.11? g =  600 MB?!?!? Thatsth dethshpickable! Besides, 640K ought to be enough for anybody. ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Derek Kalweit
=Wow...2 GB...just to have wiggle room! Where's my copy of =DOS 3.11? g 600 MB?!?!? Thatsth dethshpickable! Besides, 640K ought to be enough for anybody. Damn-- how do I load this TSR into EMS memory! I gotta squeeze out a few more K of lower memory to play my Xwing game! Ugh... --

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread mrgmhale
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance snipped A lot of other stuff seems slower just because of resource

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
Justin Darnell wrote: For the record, I'm not defending it. I just have found the good in the cards I've been dealt. J I didn't mean it personally on youI just found it amazing that you need 600MB now just for the operating system. Seems excessive, but then again, hardware is

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Michael Madigan
Could someone tell my why I would want to go to Vista? Why does the new OS bloat always have to outpace the advances in hardware? Can't we just enjoy hardware advances for a while? Just give me bug fixes and I'll stick with XP for another 10 years. Could you imagine how fast you could re-index

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Derek Kalweit
Could someone tell my why I would want to go to Vista? Microsoft knows this. With every successive new OS, the reasons to upgrade have been fewer and fewer. They're doing their best to artificially create reasons-- making DirectX 10 only available on Vista, making IE7 only available on Vista and

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/9/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone tell my why I would want to go to Vista? To support your clients who want to buy new Windows machines and have no choice but to run the new OS. Why does the new OS bloat always have to outpace the advances in hardware? I

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Chet Gardiner
I think they've paid the manufacturers a kickback for the roll out. Desktops and Laptops have been selling for as low as I've seen them in years just as vista was being rolled out. In this case, I don't believe in coincidence. Derek Kalweit wrote: Could someone tell my why I would want to

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
Derek Kalweit wrote: snipped and most importantly, it seems they're paying off hardware manufacturers to not ship Windows XP anyways-- just Vista... Far faster than in the past... Does that really happen? WowI didn't know that! Paying people to NOT ship XP? -- Michael J. Babcock,

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:33 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance Derek Kalweit wrote: snipped

RE: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Stephen the Cook
Derek Kalweit wrote: Could someone tell my why I would want to go to Vista? Microsoft knows this. With every successive new OS, the reasons to upgrade have been fewer and fewer. They're doing their best to artificially create reasons-- making DirectX 10 only available on Vista, making IE7

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Derek Kalweit
they're paying off hardware manufacturers to not ship Windows XP anyways-- just Vista... Far faster than in the past... Or as the commercials say Security is priceless Send message? Confirm or deny. -- Derek ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance

2007-04-09 Thread Chet Gardiner
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:33 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] -- Tech Analysis: Windows Vista Sucks Performance Derek Kalweit wrote: snipped and most importantly