Foxpro IDE???
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a little at a time. Also, the framework
usually provide example code,
And view all variables and how they interact/react to the code, etc.
Paul Newton wrote:
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a
Ken Dibble wrote:
I mean, really, who cares about Fibonacci
sequences?
Havn't you read/seen The Da Vinci Code? :-) That's the first time
I'd heard of Fibonacci since university.
Peter
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:53:41 +0100, Peter Cushing
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Havn't you read/seen The Da Vinci Code? :-) That's the first time
I'd heard of Fibonacci since university.
Fibonacci was also bandied around quite a lot in the whole chaos theory
/ fractals thing in the early to
On 7/10/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:53:41 +0100, Peter Cushing
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Havn't you read/seen The Da Vinci Code? :-) That's the first time
I'd heard of Fibonacci since university.
Fibonacci was also bandied around quite a lot in the
Yeah, what is the proper term to use these days for a development tool
that provides an editor, project/file manager, compiler, a set of OO
classes, revision control system that allow collaboration between
members of the development team, version control, installer, etc.
Microsoft refers to
On 7/8/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My nephew saw a project I'm working on (in VFP9 of course!) and really
got excited about what I do. He wants to learn programming.
Rather than answer with all of our personal agendas, perhaps we should
ask questions, instead.
How old
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
Yeah, what is the proper term to use these days for a development tool
that provides an editor, project/file manager, compiler, a set of OO
classes, revision control system that allow collaboration between
members of the development team, version control,
On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
I'm not quit sure what the difference is between an IDE and a
Framework.
VFP is actually two products. There is the engine and the IDE.
You do realize that you can create *any* VFP app without the VFP
IDE, right?
On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
I'm not quit sure what the difference is between an IDE and a
Framework.
A framework provides you with 'scaffolding', an empty shell of an
application. An IDE is just a bunch of helpful development tools
centralised
Microsoft refers to dot.net/Visual Studio as a framework
Common misconception. .NET is the framework of classes, Visual Studio is the
IDE to develop .NET
based apps. You can build .NET apps without Visual Studio (using an alternative
IDE), but you need
the .NET framework installed to run a
Microsoft refers to dot.net/Visual Studio as a framework
Yet another example of operator overloading by MS!
You can build .NET apps without Visual Studio (using an alternative IDE),
You can build them with Notepad if you want!
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I guess that makes VFP both an IDE and a framework, since VFP provide
everything dot.net and Visual Studio provide, but with better
integration. For example, VFP provides the OO classes and runtime
engine as the Framework, and VFP provides the editor, project
management, source code
I mean, really, who cares about Fibonacci
sequences?
Havn't you read/seen The Da Vinci Code? :-) That's the first time
I'd heard of Fibonacci since university.
I read the book. It was the first time I'd seen the inside of a church
since college.
Ken
www.stic-cil.org
www.gamedev.net
Should keep him quiet for a while.
Regards
Michael Hawksworth
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Mike Wohlrab wrote:
If he has Visual Studio, then he can work in that for a place to program in. I
would suggest that he could start programming in HTML
HTML is a markup language for describing layout surely, as opposed to
being a programming language?
I think starting out in development
I've heard good things about the Zend Studio Framework, and php seem to
be a hot language right now.
http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio
Also, Activestate's Komodo editor and perl seem popular.
http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/
Both of these choices provide the basics such
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
I've heard good things about the Zend Studio Framework, and php seem to
be a hot language right now.
http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio
Also, Activestate's Komodo editor and perl seem popular.
http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/
Both of
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/
Free.
Open sourced.
Cross platform.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Sponsor of FoxForward 2007
foxforward.net
MB Software Solutions wrote:
Heck, we were taught using Pascal years ago. And I think that was a great
learning language.
Someone just getting started in programming today has a lot to learn,
and the best way I know to put someone on the right path is with a
structured approach that covers the basic five things I mentioned. If
someone new got started with VFP, for example, they would have Project
Management,
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
Someone just getting started in programming today has a lot to learn,
and the best way I know to put someone on the right path is with a
structured approach that covers the basic five things I mentioned.
Not necessarily. It is
I agree with Leland. Except for people in kindergarten, learning the
ABCs does not make sense. It takes a few seconds to learn to do a FOR
NEXT loop, but that is not really programming.
Really modular code is not something I see on a regular basis.
Mike Yearwood
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
Someone just getting started in programming today has a lot to learn,
and the best way I know to put someone on the right path is with a
structured approach that covers the basic five things I mentioned.
Mike yearwood wrote:
I agree with Leland. Except for people in kindergarten, learning the
ABCs does not make sense. It takes a few seconds to learn to do a FOR
NEXT loop, but that is not really programming.
Really modular code is not something I see on a regular basis.
Mike Yearwood
I
On 7/8/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My nephew saw a project I'm working on (in VFP9 of course!) and really
got excited about what I do. He wants to learn programming. I'm
looking for recommendations on where he might go to get a good
fundamental basis for programming
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On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Mike yearwood wrote:
My point was that a fundamental aspect of programming - modularization
- is lost by giving someone a grounding in the language. They learn
that a program is a single monolithic procedure instead of a set of
discrete building blocks.
I
Ted Roche wrote:
You don't necessarily need or want to start someone off by loading
them down with heavy computer science theory, or a whole bunch of
complex and intimidating tools. It's boring.
Agree 100% - unless they're enrolled in a college course in which case
they have set their stall
Mike yearwood wrote:
Learning the alphabet is often considered a building block, but is not
a fundamental block necessary for speaking. Pronounciation is also a
fundamental building block, yet a small child is often physically
incapable of pronouncing many sounds.
My point was that a
Can't the basics to which you referred be learned within the framework,
or as a subset of the languages used by the framework? For example
perl, python, php, java, c#, or pick your own.
Regards,
LelandJ
Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
Can't the basics to which you referred be learned within the
framework,
or as a subset of the languages used by the framework? For example
perl, python, php, java, c#, or pick your own.
It is the imposition of a framework
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a little at a time. Also, the framework
usually provide example code, templates, and help files to get someone
going in a
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a little at a time. Also, the framework
usually provide example code, templates, and help
On Jul 9, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Paul Newton wrote:
Thats's very true but at least in VFP, with the PM, you can do as you
say - build small programs, test code etc - WITHOUT any framework.
And what command line doesn't have a way to edit and save files?
-- Ed Leafe
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The command line provides a way to open a files, create code in the
file, and save the file, but with a framework the name and path of the
file is also saved for later use. Then a project can be opened within
the framework that shows a tree view pane holding folders and files that
expand a
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
The command line provides a way to open a files, create code in the
file, and save the file, but with a framework the name and path of the
file is also saved for later use.
Leland
The name and path of the file is saved for later use with the PM even
without a
Paul Newton wrote:
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a little at a time. Also, the framework
usually provide example code,
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
The command line provides a way to open a files, create code in the
file, and save the file, but with a framework the name and path of the
file is also saved for later use. Then a project can be opened within
the framework that shows a tree view pane holding
Within the vfp framework you can work in the command window or you can
open a file and work with it. As a matter of fact, if you want to work
in vfp, you have no choice but to work within the framework. I have
seen many a newbie advised that vfp is the way to go for fast, easy
learning, so
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
Within the vfp framework you can work in the command window or you can
open a file and work with it. As a matter of fact, if you want to work
in vfp, you have no choice but to work within the framework. I have
seen many a newbie advised that vfp is the way
This reminds me of a high school kid who was an MVP for Visual Basic 5 or 6.
Mondo Smart, could assimilate everything in front of his eyeballs, etc etc.
Did you make any time to study toe ACM curricula guide for the core first
two years of the computer science curricula ? If not, you should, as
If you have a framework, you can build small programs or test code and
save them in a project for easy retrieval the next day or week. Then
you can add functionality a little at a time. Also, the framework
usually provide example code, templates, and help files to get someone
going in a hurry.
My nephew saw a project I'm working on (in VFP9 of course!) and really
got excited about what I do. He wants to learn programming. I'm
looking for recommendations on where he might go to get a good
fundamental basis for programming (via websites or books).
tia!
--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Tell him to get into sales instead. That's where the
real money is. LOL
Do you really want to give your nephew 30 years of.
why does it cost so much? I can buy Quickbooks for
under $300, why are you charging me $2000? I've
never heard of Foxpro, can't you use a Microsoft
product?
--- MB
If he has Visual Studio, then he can work in that for a place to program in. I
would suggest that he could start programming in HTML and make a website to get
a basic start of it, and then work upwards from there. Here is a good site for
him to look at for HTML:
Michael Madigan wrote:
Tell him to get into sales instead. That's where the
real money is. LOL
Yeah, I did want to point out the outsourcing to him. g
Do you really want to give your nephew 30 years of.
why does it cost so much? I can buy Quickbooks for
under $300, why are you
Mike Wohlrab wrote:
If he has Visual Studio, then he can work in that for a place to program in. I
would suggest that he could start programming in HTML and make a website to
get
a basic start of it, and then work upwards from there. Here is a good site for
him to look at for HTML:
My daughter (27 w/ three kids and a husband in Iraq) is learning VB.net. I
started teaching her vfp, just to teach her the logic of programming, but I
decided to steer her toward vb.net because of the number of potential
employers.
John
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My nephew saw a project I'm working on
On Jul 8, 2007, at 3:05 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
My nephew saw a project I'm working on (in VFP9 of course!) and really
got excited about what I do. He wants to learn programming. I'm
looking for recommendations on where he might go to get a good
fundamental basis for programming
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