Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-04-01 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 12:29 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: They did. John Elway played the slow, White Bronco. lol ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Why would there be a liberal at a church?  Was he the janitor?   - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant That's for sure

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2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant No I wouldn't. The paramedics are pretty good at cleaning up a wound and the video is about as clear and detailed as any video we've ever seen of say, Sasquatch, or Nessie, or an alien. I'm waiting

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Nicholas Geti
Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Why would there be a liberal at a church? Was he the janitor? - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Many Pastors won't discuss anything controversial.   So what's the point?   - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant We have

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2012-03-30 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: Yes. Hi Michael, Looks like he hasn't learned much, LOL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King On 3/29/2012 12:34 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: What the media should realize is that once you start the riots you can't stop them.Doesn't anyone remember the LA

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Pete Theisen
Pete Theisen wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Yes. Hi Michael, Looks like he hasn't learned much, LOL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50463 Nor has the media learned anything. The circulation bump they got from the King stories cost

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Michael Madigan wrote: Yes.  Hi Michael, Looks like he hasn't learned much, LOL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King On 3/29/2012 12:34 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: What the media should realize

RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread John Harvey
] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:47 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant That's for sure. A guy at my church really got nasty when he asked me whether I watched Fox News then walked off trying to be insulting by saying well

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2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 30/03/12 02:55, Nicholas Geti escribió: I got a broken nose when I was a kid. It didn't bleed but it sure did hurt. I have also bumped my head a few times and got a big lump but no blood. I've got tibia and fibula fractured while skiing, upper arm fracture playing rugby, forearm slash with

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 1:12 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Yes. Unbelievable. What may have started out as justified turned into police brutality after awhile. There was a line, and they crossed it. Don't tell me you're agreeing too with Pete's racist comments?

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 1:30 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: The Left always takes the wrong side. Rodney King, Tawana Brawley, OJ Simpson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Hurricane Carter, Angela Davis, Jack Abbot. What a great track record. I liked the movie Hurricane though with Denzel Washington. Wonder why they

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 1:46 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote: If you go to www.foxnewsinsider.com you can catch a good sense of the kind of reporting they do. It covers much more than politics. Thanks for the link. Still seems like a lot of politics, though, although it is an election year.

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 2:10 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Why would there be a liberal at a church? Was he the janitor? It's a paycheck. Whether his employer is a church or elsewhere, the man's gotta have that J-O-B. Besides, plenty of sinners at church. I'm one of them. There always seems to be the

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 3:07 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Many Pastors won't discuss anything controversial. So what's the point? Their job is to stick to the church's teachings and that of the Gospels...not to be political partisans. ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/30/2012 9:23 AM, John Harvey wrote: I agree about Fox. I remember seething when I would see the MSM talk shows where they would have 4 people on a discussion panel. Three liberals would triple-team the one conservative, and the moderator would be on the liberals side of any issue. With

RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread John Harvey
Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:19 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/30/2012 9:23 AM, John Harvey wrote: I agree about Fox. I remember seething when I would see the MSM talk shows where they would have 4

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
And the Conservative on the panel wasn't a Conservative.    - Original Message - From: John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant I agree about Fox

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
You forgot to mention the fractured skull and the brain damage, - Original Message - From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant El 30/03/12 02:55

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/30/2012 1:12 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Yes. Unbelievable.  What may have started out as justified turned into police brutality after awhile

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
They did.  John Elway played the slow, White Bronco. - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's

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2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
One thing to be a sinner, another thing to vote for Godless Democrats.  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/30/2012 3:07 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Many Pastors won't discuss anything controversial.  So what's the point? Their job is to stick to the church's teachings and that of the Gospels...not to be political partisans

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Would you ever riot after a White criminal was beaten?  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Michael Madigan
Journalism is dead.  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/30/2012 9:23 AM

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Nicholas Geti
Message - From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant El 30/03/12 02:55, Nicholas Geti escribió: I got a broken nose when I was a kid. It didn't bleed

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Nicholas Geti
is not criminal until the jury says it is. - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/30/2012 9

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Nicholas Geti
Now that cracks me up. I wish I could do rejoinders that well. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant You forgot to mention

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: And that's why Hitler rose to power and exterminated 6 million Jews, because the church said nothing. - Where do you find such interesting facts? Hitler rose to power in a complex power struggle in

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 30/03/12 13:42, Nicholas Geti escribió: Oh, geez another irrelevant comment from the peanut gallery. I was objecting to the liberals being up-in-arms because there was no blood on Zimmerman and therefore he could not have been attacked by the kid. I think all of your old injuries have

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Nicholas Geti
, 2012 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 5:11 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: And the criminal would have robbed someone else or killed someone else. Better the criminal is dead than to prey on the innocent some more. I don't see how you can say that, given that he had no criminal record and had no weapons on him. I'm not

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 5:13 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: The media continues to show pictures of a 12yo smiling Martin instead of a 17yo, 6'2, 200 lb high school football player thug Martin. I wonder why? That's the part that really pisses me off. The media is pouring gasoline on this. So much for

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 5:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground and was beating and bashing his head into the ground or pavement. Jerry That's the first I heard

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 5:09 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: They have Zimmerman on the 911 tape screaming help me. When nobody came to his aid, he had no choice but to shoot him. And here the media made it sound as though it was the kid who was heard screaming on the 911 tape.

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 5:25 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Because he had one he thought that he was right. If he didn't have one I don't think he would have pursued the young man. OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR! Calls for speculation and the witness is clearly not an expert in psychology. To use your logic,

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 7:04 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Nope. He had left the vehicle after being told that it wasn't necessary to follow anyone. He was returning to his vehicle after losing the trail. Saw some dude on tv (black) who said they were killing off future black presidents. Look, I get that

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 11:06 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground and was beating and bashing his head into the

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/29/2012 12:01 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: You can't tell anything from the blurry video. My thoughts exactly. Sheesh. Someone really tried to use that video as evidence that he wasn't assaulted? Please... -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/29/2012 11:16 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote: Another Fox News bigot. I watch it all the time and they had no slant one way or the other on this case. There news clips are so fleeting there is not much discussion. He likes Fox News as much as he does religion or George W. Bush.

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:38 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: To use your logic, everyone who owns/carries a gun thinks he's right.  #FAIL --- Pretty much works will all of the gun handlers I interact with personally. --

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2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 5:13 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: The media continues to show pictures of a 12yo smiling Martin instead of a 17yo, 6'2, 200 lb high school football player thug Martin.  I wonder why? That's the part that really pisses me off

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Yep.  Liars.  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 5:09 PM, Michael

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/29/2012 12:01 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: You can't tell

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Pete Theisen
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: On 3/28/2012 11:06 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground and was beating

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
The Fox News bigots know a lot about something they never watch.    - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Another Fox

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
He was suspended from school last October for possessing stolen jewelry.    - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
He gets all his news from Media Matters.  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/29/2012 12:34 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: What the media should realize is that once you start the riots you can't stop them.Doesn't anyone remember the LA riots? They kept showing only the part of the tape where Rodney King was beaten, not the minutes before when they were trying

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Oke, II
One of the biggest complaints has been that he was not arrested so which is it? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: MB Software Solutions, LLC

RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread John Harvey
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Michael Oke, II wrote: One of the biggest complaints has been that he was not arrested so which is it? Hi Michael, I guess he was not arrested. He was detained, handcuffed and interviewed. Really. If they detain

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Oke, II
Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Michael Oke, II wrote: One of the biggest complaints has been that he was not arrested so which is it? Hi Michael, I guess he was not arrested. He was detained, handcuffed and interviewed. Really. If they detain me

RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread John Harvey
, II Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:43 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant What I had heard is that he was never detained but that may be erroneous information. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, John Harvey wrote: A new video shows officers escorting him into the police station in handcuffs. I believe he was about to undergo, As the Supremes like to say, custodial interrogation. Note the timestamp is less than an hour after he claimed that he had

RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread John Harvey
don't think anything will change on that. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:25 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 29

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, John Harvey wrote: A new video shows officers escorting him into the police station in handcuffs. I believe he was about to undergo, As the Supremes like to say, custodial interrogation. Note the timestamp is less than an hour after he

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes.   - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/29/2012 12:34 PM, Michael Madigan

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, John Harvey wrote: A new video shows officers escorting him into the police station in handcuffs. I believe he was about to undergo, As the Supremes like to say, custodial interrogation.     Note the timestamp is less than

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Message - From: John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:37 PM Subject: RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant No I wouldn't. The paramedics are pretty good at cleaning up a wound and the video is about

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Michael Madigan
: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, John Harvey wrote: A new video shows officers escorting him into the police station in handcuffs. I believe he was about to undergo, As the Supremes like

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Nicholas Geti
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant The Fox News bigots know a lot about something they never watch. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-29 Thread Nicholas Geti
11:37 PM Subject: RE: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant No I wouldn't. The paramedics are pretty good at cleaning up a wound and the video is about as clear and detailed as any video we've ever seen of say, Sasquatch, or Nessie, or an alien. I'm waiting for this to unfold before

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Al Sharpton is unqualified to do anything other than race hustling. - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Michael

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 4:16 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html The facts of the case are what's important and fair. I would consider the marijuana bag interesting, but Zimmerman didn't know about that or the kids issues at

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 4:16 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html The facts of the case

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
, II oke...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant No, if you are going to shoot somebody you shoot to kill, not wound. For a myriad of reasons that I won't go into here. I can't get

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2012-03-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation and it seems knowingly of the ability to hide behind Florida's stand your ground law. I'm just wondering how stand your ground came to mean run after the

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Following a suspicious guy is one thing, getting punched in the face and having your head rammed into the sidewalk is another.    All the info is now coming out on what a scumbag criminal Martin was.   His death

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
I love how they defend the criminals.   - Original Message - From: Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Following a suspicious guy is one thing, getting punched in the face and having your head rammed into the sidewalk is another.    All the info is now coming

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 4:01 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation and it seems knowingly of the ability to hide behind Florida's stand your ground law. I'm just wondering how stand your

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2012-03-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 4:03 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: When you don't listen to Police you are in the wrong. When they say Stand Down you should. Zimmerman should have stopped when told to do so. He is at fault. He also had the gun so two wrongs still do not make a right. Having the gun doesn't

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 4:04 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: I love how they defend the criminals. Mike, you can't say that at the time of this, the kid was a criminal nor acting in any criminal way. That's like saying we should attack Iraq before they attack us. G -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 3/28/2012 4:05 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: What would you do if a criminal punched you in the face and was slamming your head into the sidewalk? I bet you would shoot him too. Therein lies the crux of the matter. At what point was the shooting justified? After the first punch? The

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2012-03-28 Thread Michael Oke, II
The police did not tell him not to follow the kid, the 911 operator did and that isn't the same thing. However, he did initiate the confrontation as, had he returned home when asked to do so, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all

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2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Unless he used fighting words , he didn't provoke it.   - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's

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2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 4:01 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation and it seems knowingly of the ability to hide behind Florida's stand your ground law

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Oke, II
He, Zimmerman, quoted the law to the responding officers. Or so it is being reported. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:58 PM, MB Software Solutions,

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
was a criminal.  - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 4:04 PM, Michael

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
28, 2012 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On 3/28/2012 4:05 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: What would you do if a criminal punched you in the face and was slamming your head into the sidewalk?  I bet you would shoot him too. Therein lies the crux of the matter

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant The police did not tell him not to follow the kid, the 911 operator did and that isn't the same thing. However, he did initiate the confrontation as, had he returned home when asked to do so, we wouldn't be having this discussion

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
So?  - Original Message - From: Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant He, Zimmerman, quoted the law to the responding officers.  Or so it is being

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
5:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant He, Zimmerman, quoted the law to the responding officers.  Or so it is being reported. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:58 PM

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2012-03-28 Thread Jerry Foote
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: What would you do if a criminal punched you in the face and was slamming your head into the sidewalk?   I bet you would shoot him too. I thought that the cops were helping Zimmerman by providing

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:59 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: He pursued the victim and initiated the confrontation. I don't see how stand your ground is even remotely relevant here. Seems like this would be a case of manslaughter at least, or negligent criminal homicide. I base

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Oke, II
lb high school football player thug Martin. I wonder why? - Original Message - From: Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant He, Zimmerman

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2012-03-28 Thread Michael Oke, II
: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact

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2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: Al Sharpton is unqualified to do anything other than race hustling. Hi Michael, They would train him to flip burgers, or greet at Wal-mart. http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html If these incidents ever stop Sharpton and

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: On 3/28/2012 4:16 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html The facts of the case are what's important and fair. I would consider the marijuana bag interesting, but Zimmerman didn't

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman put himself in the situation and it seems knowingly of the ability to hide behind Florida's stand your ground law. I'm just wondering how stand your ground came to mean

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Following a suspicious guy is one thing, getting punched in the face and having your head rammed into the sidewalk is another.All the info is now coming out on what a scumbag criminal

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Oke, II wrote: The police did not tell him not to follow the kid, the 911 operator did and that isn't the same thing. However, he did initiate the confrontation as, had he returned home when asked to do so, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Unless the perp turned the

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:59 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: He pursued the victim and initiated the confrontation. I don't see how stand your ground is even remotely relevant here. Seems like this would be a case of manslaughter at least, or negligent criminal

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground and was beating and bashing his head into the ground or pavement. Yeah, what a

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jerry Foote wrote: You guys are not listening, after he was told not to follow he was returning to his car when the guy came after him, punched him and knocked him to ground and was beating and bashing his head into the ground or pavement.

Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Madigan
He'd scare people away at Wal-Mart - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [OT] My son's a criminal, but that's irrelevant Michael Madigan wrote: Al Sharpton