[NF] SalesForce (was RE: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications)

2017-06-09 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-06-08 16:09, Richard Kaye wrote: Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box. I've not used Salesforce but their marketing youtube demo looked impressive I thought. Then again, actually working with

RE: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-09 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 13:09 2017-06-08, Richard Kaye wrote: Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box. set friday on For starters, it does not come in a box, right? [snip] Sincerely, Gene

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-09 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 12:56 2017-06-08, Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > I see plenty of Webpages that have been (mis)designed by others that > are a horror to use. I do not like the poor UX. > > While Webpages can be

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-09 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote: > > I like the interface, looks really good and fast. > Can you program hot keys? > What about security? > --- For us, security is via AD creds that are demanded when you open the application. Before I say yes

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Ricardo Araoz
On 08/06/17 22:49, Stephen Russell wrote: On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote: Nice form! Couple of questions. Can you program hot keys so as to not use the mouse to save the order for example? And I'd like to know the language you use to program this app.

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Nice form! Couple of questions. Can you program hot keys so as to not use the mouse to save the order for example? And I'd like to know the language you use to program this app. Or should I say languages? And what about security, do you have to take care of it or does the language/framework

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: > Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing > particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box. > This is the system I use, LN, and how to place a sales order.

RE: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Richard Kaye
To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@telus.net> wrote: > > In the end, both mediums can be crafted and form great pieces of art. The >> petty bickering between the artist gets redun

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > I see plenty of Webpages that have been (mis)designed by others that > are a horror to use. I do not like the poor UX. > > While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only are not > great but are

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 09:44 2017-06-07, Edward Leafe wrote: On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:28 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would have NEVER

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > In the end, both mediums can be crafted and form great pieces of art. The >> petty bickering between the artist gets redundant after a while. >> > > While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only are

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-08 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 05:14 2017-06-07, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > At 21:28 2017-06-06, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > > [snip] > > I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-06-07 12:44, Edward Leafe wrote: On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:28 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would have NEVER been tolerated in a

RE: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread Richard Kaye
rofoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:28 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got > set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that woul

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread Edward Leafe
On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:28 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got > set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would have NEVER > been tolerated in a desktop app.

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > At 21:28 2017-06-06, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > > [snip] > > I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got >> set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread Alan Bourke
> I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar > got set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would > have NEVER been tolerated in a desktop app. A lot of that was due to the previously mentioned mess that was and is browser support. Things are a

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-07 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 21:28 2017-06-06, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: [snip] I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would have NEVER been tolerated in a desktop app. But Web app UX has

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-06 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-06-06 13:26, Brant E. Layton wrote: One more point for the desktop application: Navigation. I've worked with many applications that are intense data entry - and the best ones can be 'driven' entirely from the keyboard. You don't have to reach for the mouse to make selections, etc. Of

Re: e: [NF] PyQT for desktop applications

2017-06-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > > I also find that Web forms are often laid out badly. They can not > count on a screen size so they go with the one-per-line model: > Data Item 1: _ > Data Item 2: _ >