Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis killed yesterday in Qana was OK too? After all, they're only Muslims right? On 7/31/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?) And... Israel fire at who they like, and act with impunity, because they know that their bigger brother - the US - will always defend them. It seems many people have been brainwashed by their media and politicians. The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Hiding behind such a straw man is an excuse so that they do not have to come out and debate the real issues. They cower and hide hehind their whimsical caricatures instead, and their infantile little tag lines such as 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' (yawn). Cowardice of the worst kind. Regads Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: 31 July 2006 09:08 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis killed yesterday in Qana was OK too? After all, they're only Muslims right? On 7/31/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-4 21d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Pegasus Software Limited is a member of the Systems Union Group plc Registered Office: Systems Union House, 1 Lakeside Road, Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 6XP Registered No: 1601542 This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Views in SQL Server
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Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
To All, I had a WEIRD error come up over the weekend in a set of programs that have been working for ages. I managed to tie the problem down to what I think is an error in VFP and wonder what you all think. Run the program below and you should find that the first and second select statement works OK and the third one doesn't! My question is WHY? I can't come up with a reasonable answer here other than the fact that in (3) VFP seems to be trying to pre process or parse the Date() expression with a dataset containing null records (maybe?) caused by the Join. As the only difference is the Join in statement (3), this is obviously the culprit but WHY? Important Note: If you replace the date() statement with Ctod(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,8)) ; as Date ; Then ALL the statements work. Surely this is a deep error with the Date() - or am I missing something obvious here. All I know is that it ate up 4 hours to find the problem! *** * Start of Program * Close Tables all Set Date British DD/MM/YY Create Cursor curTemp (FK1 I, F1 C(10), cDate C(8)) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A01,01/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A02,02/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A03,03/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A04,04/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A05,05/01/06) Create Cursor curTemp2 (PK I, F1 C(10)) Insert Into curTemp2 Values (1, Lookup) * (1) This statement works OK it has one record Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (2) This is OK, no records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)),; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A99 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (3) This errors. Also No records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Join curTemp2 on curTemp2.PK=curTemp.FK1 ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * * End of Program Dave Crozier The best way to make a Million pounds in computing. ...Start with 5 million! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! I don't know how much more real the issue can be than that of hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel can be. Real issues indeed. If treason is not an issue, then there are no issues. The argument of real issues other than these is the straw man. Regards, Pete Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?) Israel fire at who they like, and act with impunity, because they know that their bigger brother - the US - will always defend them. It seems many people have been brainwashed by their media and politicians. The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues which have been simplified into infantile tags. It is easier to churn out these (and hundreds more like them) that to discuss the real issues. The irony is, you have done exactly what I have described you would do. You have hidden behind your caricatures, because you are incapable of discussing the real issues. Go ahead and throw your caricatures and tag lines around ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
What version of VFP Dave? -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told the civilians to clear out before they started shooting. The ones shot evidently chose to tempt fate. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told the civilians to clear out before they started shooting. The ones shot evidently chose to tempt fate. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Michael Madigan wrote: Too bad the 911 victims didn't get any flyers to clear out. My brother in law's company was on the 3? Floor of the second tower hit. When the first building was struck the management told the staff to leave. I'd say that would not be the norm for most of the other businesses. Mark runs the Denver office and flies between NY and CO every other week. Lucky for him that it was his off week. Oppenheimer Funds, Inc. is his employer. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told the civilians to clear out before they started shooting. The ones shot evidently chose to tempt fate. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Hi Stephen! I would have sent my wife and for God's sake my children to safety should I have chosen to resist. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
VFP 9 SP1 Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 31 July 2006 11:04 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas? To All, I had a WEIRD error come up over the weekend in a set of programs that have been working for ages. I managed to tie the problem down to what I think is an error in VFP and wonder what you all think. Run the program below and you should find that the first and second select statement works OK and the third one doesn't! My question is WHY? I can't come up with a reasonable answer here other than the fact that in (3) VFP seems to be trying to pre process or parse the Date() expression with a dataset containing null records (maybe?) caused by the Join. As the only difference is the Join in statement (3), this is obviously the culprit but WHY? Important Note: If you replace the date() statement with Ctod(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,8)) ; as Date ; Then ALL the statements work. Surely this is a deep error with the Date() - or am I missing something obvious here. All I know is that it ate up 4 hours to find the problem! *** * Start of Program * Close Tables all Set Date British DD/MM/YY Create Cursor curTemp (FK1 I, F1 C(10), cDate C(8)) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A01,01/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A02,02/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A03,03/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A04,04/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A05,05/01/06) Create Cursor curTemp2 (PK I, F1 C(10)) Insert Into curTemp2 Values (1, Lookup) * (1) This statement works OK it has one record Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (2) This is OK, no records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)),; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A99 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (3) This errors. Also No records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Join curTemp2 on curTemp2.PK=curTemp.FK1 ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * * End of Program Dave Crozier The best way to make a Million pounds in computing. ...Start with 5 million! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. OK, 911 is simpler. In response, Israel, the US and any other right thinking nation eliminates the terrorists. If eliminating the terrorists means killing every male muslim who does not surrender with his hands up, then that is what has to happen. Complex indeed. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
Hmm. strange indeed. What I'm seeing: The 1st call to the date function, the curTemp.cDate contains an empty value! I'm not sure but I'm bettiong it has to do with optimization of the query. I've seen this result by using an UDF that accepts 1 param and prints it out to the screen. Then include that UDF as a column, passing the curTemp.cDate as the param The solution: use EVL() in the expression: Date(2000+Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),7,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),4,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),1,2))) ; Another solution: You're only using the join to filter out the records from the lookup: Don't use the join but use Where curTemp.F1=A01 AND curTemp.FK1 IN (SELECT pk FROM curTemp2) Regards, Sietse Wijnker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: maandag 31 juli 2006 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas? To All, I had a WEIRD error come up over the weekend in a set of programs that have been working for ages. I managed to tie the problem down to what I think is an error in VFP and wonder what you all think. Run the program below and you should find that the first and second select statement works OK and the third one doesn't! My question is WHY? I can't come up with a reasonable answer here other than the fact that in (3) VFP seems to be trying to pre process or parse the Date() expression with a dataset containing null records (maybe?) caused by the Join. As the only difference is the Join in statement (3), this is obviously the culprit but WHY? Important Note: If you replace the date() statement with Ctod(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,8)) ; as Date ; Then ALL the statements work. Surely this is a deep error with the Date() - or am I missing something obvious here. All I know is that it ate up 4 hours to find the problem! *** * Start of Program * Close Tables all Set Date British DD/MM/YY Create Cursor curTemp (FK1 I, F1 C(10), cDate C(8)) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A01,01/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A02,02/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A03,03/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A04,04/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A05,05/01/06) Create Cursor curTemp2 (PK I, F1 C(10)) Insert Into curTemp2 Values (1, Lookup) * (1) This statement works OK it has one record Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (2) This is OK, no records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)),; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A99 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (3) This errors. Also No records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Join curTemp2 on curTemp2.PK=curTemp.FK1 ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * * End of Program Dave Crozier The best way to make a Million pounds in computing. ...Start with 5 million! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. And Israel has responded with an over the top display of military power that has just recently seen 37 children killed. They have also bombed the exit roads so that civilians cannot escape, they have bombed urban areas where civialians live, including hospitals. The straw man is to paint this as a simple issue, and call people who disagree with you as terrorist loving liberals. Go and hide behind your straw man. Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of petetheisen Sent: 31 July 2006 12:03 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. OK, 911 is simpler. In response, Israel, the US and any other right thinking nation eliminates the terrorists. If eliminating the terrorists means killing every male muslim who does not surrender with his hands up, then that is what has to happen. Complex indeed. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Pegasus Software Limited is a member of the Systems Union Group plc Registered Office: Systems Union House, 1 Lakeside Road, Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 6XP Registered No: 1601542 This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
Sietse, Seitse, Thanks for the heads up. On Saturday I did try removing the Join just as you suggested, as this was my first gut reaction but the query ran so slow (x 20) that I reverted to the ctod() solution just to get the damned thing working at a sensible speed. As for the Evl() solution, that is a good one - well found! I might revisit the code and use that method. Yes, I've seen a similar problem when using UDF's but this particular one definitely goes in the book of things to look for. The weird thing was that I was looking at the data as the culprit, thinking that I had some corrupted records in the table(s) as the actual live SQL syntax contains about 15 joins and is vastly more complicated than in the example. That's why it took me so long to find out what was happening. I'll report it as a bug though as the statement shouldn't error. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sietse Wijnker Sent: 31 July 2006 12:13 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas? Hmm. strange indeed. What I'm seeing: The 1st call to the date function, the curTemp.cDate contains an empty value! I'm not sure but I'm bettiong it has to do with optimization of the query. I've seen this result by using an UDF that accepts 1 param and prints it out to the screen. Then include that UDF as a column, passing the curTemp.cDate as the param The solution: use EVL() in the expression: Date(2000+Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),7,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),4,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),1,2))) ; Another solution: You're only using the join to filter out the records from the lookup: Don't use the join but use Where curTemp.F1=A01 AND curTemp.FK1 IN (SELECT pk FROM curTemp2) Regards, Sietse Wijnker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: maandag 31 juli 2006 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas? To All, I had a WEIRD error come up over the weekend in a set of programs that have been working for ages. I managed to tie the problem down to what I think is an error in VFP and wonder what you all think. Run the program below and you should find that the first and second select statement works OK and the third one doesn't! My question is WHY? I can't come up with a reasonable answer here other than the fact that in (3) VFP seems to be trying to pre process or parse the Date() expression with a dataset containing null records (maybe?) caused by the Join. As the only difference is the Join in statement (3), this is obviously the culprit but WHY? Important Note: If you replace the date() statement with Ctod(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,8)) ; as Date ; Then ALL the statements work. Surely this is a deep error with the Date() - or am I missing something obvious here. All I know is that it ate up 4 hours to find the problem! *** * Start of Program * Close Tables all Set Date British DD/MM/YY Create Cursor curTemp (FK1 I, F1 C(10), cDate C(8)) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A01,01/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A02,02/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A03,03/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (2, A04,04/01/06) Insert Into curTemp Values (1, A05,05/01/06) Create Cursor curTemp2 (PK I, F1 C(10)) Insert Into curTemp2 Values (1, Lookup) * (1) This statement works OK it has one record Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (2) This is OK, no records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)),; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Where curTemp.F1=A99 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * (3) This errors. Also No records Select All ; Date(2000+Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,7,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,4,2)), ; Val(Substr(curTemp.cDate,1,2))) ; as Date ; From curTemp ; Join curTemp2 on curTemp2.PK=curTemp.FK1 ; Where curTemp.F1=A01 ; Into Cursor curResult * Browse * * End of Program Dave Crozier The best way to make a Million pounds in computing. ...Start with 5 million! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to:
Re: Views in SQL Server
Mike Yearwood said If you always use parameterized SQL queries, the parameter contents can not be used for SIA. Surely it depends how you build the parameter variables - if you let the user enter them what is to stop them entering e.g. a city name as manchester go truncate table dbo.sysusers go and If someone were somehow able to access your database at all and run a query, they can just as easily run your SPs. I thought that was the point - you make the error checking in your sp rock solid so you don't care what tool is used to access it. btw some comments on this topic seem to imply that SQL Server supports parameterised queries: afaik Foxpro supports parameterised queries, including queries to a SQL Server back-end, but SQL Server itself only supports parameters to sp's - or have I missed something? Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
Part of my explanation was missing: The DATE() function does not accept year, month and day parameters that are equal to 0 (zero) and responds with the 'Function argument value, type, or count is invalid.' error. Because the VAL(substr()) starts with an empty string, the call to the DATE() function is DATE(2000,0,0). So there's your error! Regards, Sietse Hmm. strange indeed. What I'm seeing: The 1st call to the date function, the curTemp.cDate contains an empty value! I'm not sure but I'm bettiong it has to do with optimization of the query. I've seen this result by using an UDF that accepts 1 param and prints it out to the screen. Then include that UDF as a column, passing the curTemp.cDate as the param The solution: use EVL() in the expression: Date(2000+Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),7,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),4,2)), ; Val(Substr(EVL(curTemp.cDate, 01/01/00),1,2))) ; Another solution: You're only using the join to filter out the records from the lookup: Don't use the join but use Where curTemp.F1=A01 AND curTemp.FK1 IN (SELECT pk FROM curTemp2) Regards, Sietse Wijnker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: maandag 31 juli 2006 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?
Oooh nasty one! I notice it works OK if you have SELECT * instead of SELECT ALL -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Lieberman, 2007!
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RE: Views in SQL Server
Stephen Russell said I beg to differ. Each time you submit a query statement the server must create an execution plan for it. We've had this discussion before: according to my SQL Server book this is not true for v2000 and later - execution plans are cached and if a subsequent query differs only in the values in the where clause (~ 'parameters') the plan is re-used. Foxpro's sqlprepare() may also be relevant, but I don't know how it is handled by the bach-end. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# PC Development Officer Housing IT Housing Services Manchester City Council @Hawthorn Cottage ( Office +44 161 234 5330 ( Internal [814] 5330 ( Mobile 0775 938 5155 (when all else fails) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * home [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
On Jul 31, 2006, at 4:25 AM, Dominic Burford wrote: The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Hiding behind such a straw man is an excuse so that they do not have to come out and debate the real issues. They cower and hide hehind their whimsical caricatures instead, and their infantile little tag lines such as 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' (yawn). And yet so many people here continue to feel the need to engage them. The only people who haven't already figured out their lack of substance aren't going to get it because others keep trying to point it out. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Views in SQL Server
Andy, The bach-end - that's music to my ears! BG Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 31 July 2006 12:55 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Views in SQL Server Stephen Russell said I beg to differ. Each time you submit a query statement the server must create an execution plan for it. We've had this discussion before: according to my SQL Server book this is not true for v2000 and later - execution plans are cached and if a subsequent query differs only in the values in the where clause (~ 'parameters') the plan is re-used. Foxpro's sqlprepare() may also be relevant, but I don't know how it is handled by the bach-end. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# PC Development Officer Housing IT Housing Services Manchester City Council @Hawthorn Cottage ( Office +44 161 234 5330 ( Internal [814] 5330 ( Mobile 0775 938 5155 (when all else fails) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * home [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Views in SQL Server
Andy Davies wrote: btw some comments on this topic seem to imply that SQL Server supports parameterised queries: afaik Foxpro supports parameterised queries, including queries to a SQL Server back-end, but SQL Server itself only supports parameters to sp's - or have I missed something? Nope, but you can do a view and Select * from myView Where Customerid =1234 and your going to only get rows back on your customer. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
a collection issue
Hi All, I create a collection like this: oCol = CreateObject(Collection) ocol.add(5) ocol.add(6) ocol.add(7) I type in the command window: ? oCol(2) and I get 6. ? oCol.item(2).value and I get 6. OK until here. Then I want to change the value of the second Col item to 11. (oCol.item(2).value) Does anybody know How can I change the assigned value to a collection member? TIA Vassilis Aggelakos ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: a collection issue
Vassilis, You have to delete the original item and create a new item. There is no way to directly change a colleciton item's value. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: a collection issue
Thanks Mal, I use collections in my apps very frequently. Usually I have a simple ColItem class that looks like this: DEFINE CLASS myColItem AS Custom Key = .null. Value = .null. TagInfo = .null. oChild = .null. ENDDEFINE I add this object to my collection and everything is fine when I want to modify a value but playing now with collections I thought that I have missed something obvious. Thank you very much -V - Original Message - From: Malcolm Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: a collection issue Vassilis, You have to delete the original item and create a new item. There is no way to directly change a colleciton item's value. Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Views in SQL Server
Andy Davies wrote: M$ never adopted [packages], I can't understand why (unless it's a copyright issue or something)?? --Michael not copyright - iirc packages are part of the ansi standard - ms said there was 'no demand'. What's that address again.One Microsoft Way ??? ;-) -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS
The discussion last week made me wonder where people stood on using VFP as the middle tier that it's been called best for in the past. If you have a non-VFP object using VFP as the middle tier, you can only get back single values and not a cursor (unless you're going to create an XML document to be consumed by the non-VFP caller), right? If you could get a cursor from VFP into the non-VFP caller, that'd be great, but I think VFP cursors are only akin to VFP, right? How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS
From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] The discussion last week made me wonder where people stood on using VFP as the middle tier that it's been called best for in the past. If you have a non-VFP object using VFP as the middle tier, you can only get back single values and not a cursor (unless you're going to create an XML document to be consumed by the non-VFP caller), right? If you could get a cursor from VFP into the non-VFP caller, that'd be great, but I think VFP cursors are only akin to VFP, right? How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
On Monday, July 31, 2006 9:28 AM Stephen Russell wrote From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] snipped How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Yet another hypocrite
This time, it's Condi: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday she will seek international consensus for a cease-fire and a lasting settlement in the conflict between Lebanon and Israel through a U.N. Security Council resolution this week. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060731/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ rice;_ylt=Ar27EGtXLbWgRHvKh8mTtpCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM- ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/nvdoz ) Wait a second: a UN Security Council Resolution? Didn't she and the rest of the Bush Administration constantly use the UN and its resolutions as their whipping boy in justifying the invasion of Iraq? Now you want to use them when it might buy you some political points? I can't wait to hear all the Fox News pundits and their clones start ripping Rice and the Bush folk for this. After all, they ripped everyone who opposed the timetable for quick invasion of Iraq and ridiculed their insistence on letting the UN handle this, because in their opinion the UN was worthless, weak, powerless, and we would be better off getting rid of it. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Gig, Syracuse NY
A franchise! This could be the 'burger-flipping' job of the 21st
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Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
David Crooks wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2006 9:28 AM Stephen Russell wrote From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] snipped How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? That was my point tooas long as you're sending single pieces of information, sure. You could I suppose pass an XML stream that's a multi-record cursor when expanded I guess? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (42)
What do the locals call the portion of Michigan that is north of the Strait of Mackinac? What is the opposite of IP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 16:02 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (42) UP [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (43)
What is the Weekly Newsmagazine called? What did Jim Croce keep in his bottle? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 16:02 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (43) TIME [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Buffering and TableUpdate()
Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Thanks, Kent ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
From: David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? How does VFP interact with messages from a VB client, and how do you pass back munged data that the middle tier does? Who decides what date format is correct? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
From: Michael Hawksworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try turning it around! If you were using c# for the middle tier what would you pass? Depends totaly on what is the receiving code compiled in. VB6, VB.NET, c++, java, python? XML sounds great, but at what volume and what distance are you passing? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()
Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the original record will not see the changes unless it tries to commit a change of its own. Then and only then will you get an exception thrown and you can decide what data is the most up to date. You need to refresh the data periodically in the original record form to see any updates. If you are using grids or browse windows (uugh!) then these will refresh automatically after the updates from the new form have been committed if you set the set refresh to command accordingly. Note that this command setting only refreshes the buffers and may or may NOT affect the displayed data (i.e it works with unbuffered grids and memo fields). I usually use a timer to refresh the data on a form every 5 or 10 seconds. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: 31 July 2006 15:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Thanks, Kent [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Buffering and TableUpdate()
Kent Belan wrote: Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Did Computer2 requery since Computer1 updated the data? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all thelifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
I agree, unless VFP supports Binary serialization, use xml to communicate between layers. Thanks, Nick Cipollina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hawksworth Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all thelifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS Try turning it around! If you were using c# for the middle tier what would you pass? You would have to stay with the standards that your front end and middle tier both understand or go to a portable standard such as XML. The fact you are using VFP for the middle tier is moot unless you are using a VFP front end in which case you can pass cursors around (which is great) otherwise I would say XML is fine and maybe should be used between layers in vfp only apps for future proofing. -- Michael Hawksworth Visual Fox Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.foxpro.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
On Jul 31, 2006, at 9:32 AM, David Crooks wrote: How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? You have to approach this in terms on inter-tier messaging. VFP can interface great with various backends, but how well does it interface with different front ends? If the webserver is your front end, and it 'talks' VFP, then VFP is a great middle tier. If your front end is a .Net form, it probably doesn't speak VFP very well, and might not be the best choice. If your front end is a Qt form running on Linux, well... -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()
Hello Dave, Thanks for the reply. How do I refresh the data on computer 2 after computer 1 makes a change? I understand the timer, but do I have to seek the invoice or can I just do a thisform.refresh() Thanks, Kent Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the original record will not see the changes unless it tries to commit a change of its own. Then and only then will you get an exception thrown and you can decide what data is the most up to date. You need to refresh the data periodically in the original record form to see any updates. If you are using grids or browse windows (uugh!) then these will refresh automatically after the updates from the new form have been committed if you set the set refresh to command accordingly. Note that this command setting only refreshes the buffers and may or may NOT affect the displayed data (i.e it works with unbuffered grids and memo fields). I usually use a timer to refresh the data on a form every 5 or 10 seconds. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: 31 July 2006 15:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Thanks, Kent [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()
Kent, Re-seeking the invoice data will give the desired effect or even a goto recno() for individual records in the invoice. Just a point, if you are viewing the invoice details in a Grid then you certainly need the set refresh to set to say 1 second. How are you holding the data on your forms? Are the data fields bound directly to the table data or to the fields in a cursor or data object and are you using any form of transactions? If not then it might be sensible to look a this form of processing so that all the updates can be made in effect off line without affecting the underlying data until you commit or rollback. Personally in a strictly ON-LINE system I hold all detail data in a grid and that way it gets refreshed automatically regardless of refreshing the page. Once the Edit selection is made for an invoice, the header is locked using RLock() so that nobody else can edit the record and Double clicking on an item opens up a edit section of the form for that item in the knowledge that nobody else can be editing the Invoice at that time. When I'm writing an OFF-LINE system I use the temporary cursor approach to load ALL the invoice data for modification then commit the changes back when apropriate. The nice thing about doing it this way is that the user can always easily ABORT. Although you can do this on a live underlying table using Begin Transaction I find it messy, hence the Off-Line approach with data being loaded into data objects from the cursor. There are advantages in using each method and implimentation is normally down to personal preference. Just remember that you WON'T see the updated data untill the other machine commits the transaction or moves off the record(s) (with No Buffering) or commits the update (with buffering) no matter which method of refreshing you use, So if the new record form sits on an item line it will NEVER get written back to the underlying table. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: 31 July 2006 15:37 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello Dave, Thanks for the reply. How do I refresh the data on computer 2 after computer 1 makes a change? I understand the timer, but do I have to seek the invoice or can I just do a thisform.refresh() Thanks, Kent Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the original record will not see the changes unless it tries to commit a change of its own. Then and only then will you get an exception thrown and you can decide what data is the most up to date. You need to refresh the data periodically in the original record form to see any updates. If you are using grids or browse windows (uugh!) then these will refresh automatically after the updates from the new form have been committed if you set the set refresh to command accordingly. Note that this command setting only refreshes the buffers and may or may NOT affect the displayed data (i.e it works with unbuffered grids and memo fields). I usually use a timer to refresh the data on a form every 5 or 10 seconds. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: 31 July 2006 15:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Thanks, Kent [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software Microsoft is to start charging $1.50 for beta versions of Office 2007. From 2 August anyone wanting to download the software will have to pay the small fee. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/07/31/office_betas_cost/ Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS
Paul Hill said You could use a cursor internally and create methods to navigate (GoTop(), MoveNext(), EOF() etc). The object would probably need expose a property for each field in the results. I played with this some time ago... So did I - with the .net beta - it worked just fine. iirc I returned a 'scatter name' object. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS
Andy Davies wrote: Paul Hill said You could use a cursor internally and create methods to navigate (GoTop(), MoveNext(), EOF() etc). The object would probably need expose a property for each field in the results. I played with this some time ago... So did I - with the .net beta - it worked just fine. iirc I returned a 'scatter name' object. But again, that comes back to what I said: it's ok for use in cases where it's ONE record that you're passing to the caller, but in the case where you'd need 1:M, it would have to be XML for non-VFP links. -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
You're unable to grasp the facts. The Hezbollah purposely shot rockets off from there to draw fire so they could make the news. And the networks obliged. This is a war, in case you hadn't realized. --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis killed yesterday in Qana was OK too? After all, they're only Muslims right? On 7/31/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Please, you've been brainwashed by the Israel-hatiing BBC. --- Dominic Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?) And... Israel fire at who they like, and act with impunity, because they know that their bigger brother - the US - will always defend them. It seems many people have been brainwashed by their media and politicians. The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Hiding behind such a straw man is an excuse so that they do not have to come out and debate the real issues. They cower and hide hehind their whimsical caricatures instead, and their infantile little tag lines such as 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' (yawn). Cowardice of the worst kind. Regads Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: 31 July 2006 09:08 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis killed yesterday in Qana was OK too? After all, they're only Muslims right? On 7/31/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-4 21d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ Pegasus Software Limited is a member of the Systems Union Group plc Registered Office: Systems Union House, 1 Lakeside Road, Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hampshire GU14 6XP Registered No: 1601542 This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
I haven't seen one post from the Jew haters on this list condemning the killing of Israeli children. I don't remember the Jew haters condemning the suicide bombers that were climbing onto school buses. I don't see one condemnation of the Kaytusha rockets, which are unguided, being fired into cities. The Hezbollah are targeting civilians, the Israelis are accidental hitting civilians. Are the Hezbollah sending fliers over to warn of impending military action? --- Dominic Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues which have been simplified into infantile tags. It is easier to churn out these (and hundreds more like them) that to discuss the real issues. The irony is, you have done exactly what I have described you would do. You have hidden behind your caricatures, because you are incapable of discussing the real issues. Go ahead and throw your caricatures and tag lines around ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all thelifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
Try turning it around! If you were using c# for the middle tier what would you pass? You would have to stay with the standards that your front end and middle tier both understand or go to a portable standard such as XML. The fact you are using VFP for the middle tier is moot unless you are using a VFP front end in which case you can pass cursors around (which is great) otherwise I would say XML is fine and maybe should be used between layers in vfp only apps for future proofing. That's right. The issue of what standard to pass information will be dependent on the capabilities of each tier IMO. Before Flash was capable of dealing with XML we developed a VFP middle tier that received text streams from a Flash interface, queried a SQL Server backend and passed text streams back to the Flash interface. We didn't develop the Flash interface, we just provided the Flash developers with a couple of lines of hook code. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Kind of like Katrina victims. They know the storm is coming, they just stay where they are. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()
Assuming you are using tables and not views, you can use the SET REFRESH command to control how often VFP refreshes the local cache. The only other way to force VFP to refresh the local cache is to lock a record (which is what happens when you perform the TABLEUPDATE() in a optimistic buffering scenario). If you are using local views then the data is only refreshed as often as a REQUERY() is performed on the view. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello Dave, Thanks for the reply. How do I refresh the data on computer 2 after computer 1 makes a change? I understand the timer, but do I have to seek the invoice or can I just do a thisform.refresh() Thanks, Kent Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the original record will not see the changes unless it tries to commit a change of its own. Then and only then will you get an exception thrown and you can decide what data is the most up to date. You need to refresh the data periodically in the original record form to see any updates. If you are using grids or browse windows (uugh!) then these will refresh automatically after the updates from the new form have been committed if you set the set refresh to command accordingly. Note that this command setting only refreshes the buffers and may or may NOT affect the displayed data (i.e it works with unbuffered grids and memo fields). I usually use a timer to refresh the data on a form every 5 or 10 seconds. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Belan Sent: 31 July 2006 15:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Buffering and TableUpdate() Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer 1 makes a change to the invoice status, then computer 2 attempts an operation that depends on the status but does not see the changes. How do I get computer 2 to see the current values in the record? Thanks, Kent [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Dave Crozier wrote: Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software Microsoft is to start charging $1.50 for beta versions of Office 2007. From 2 August anyone wanting to download the software will have to pay the small fee. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/07/31/office_betas_cost/ Let me be the first to say it... we've been paying for their beta software for years Windows, Office, servers they just haven't called them 'betas' before. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Nice one Whil! Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: 31 July 2006 17:01 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas Dave Crozier wrote: Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software Microsoft is to start charging $1.50 for beta versions of Office 2007. From 2 August anyone wanting to download the software will have to pay the small fee. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/07/31/office_betas_cost/ Let me be the first to say it... we've been paying for their beta software for years Windows, Office, servers they just haven't called them 'betas' before. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has nothing to do with any of that. You must first accept the notion that US is divinely guided, and that anything we do is Good. Same with Israel. We are incapable of doing bad things, since a priori everything we do is Good. When we wipe out a population and take their land, it is Manifest Destiny, and if you were an Indian, well, sucks to be you, but God wanted us to do it. Same thing when we torture people; it's not brutal and inhuman, because it's Jesus' hand placing the electrodes on their testicles, not ours. You are one sick person Ed. Dropping that second o in Good ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] to succeed in American politics
But in many ways, AIPAC has become greater than just another lobby; its work has made unconditional support for Israel an accepted cost of doing business inside the halls of Congress. When it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict, the terms of debate are so influenced by organized Jewish groups, like AIPAC, that to be critical of Israel is to deny oneself the ability to succeed in American politics. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060814/aipacs_hold Mel Gibson should sober up and make Braveheart takes on Washington. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh please. These people are either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. They sure aren't your friend after you take their living space, or city infrastructure. It's like it's a scene made for a Halaburton No Bid Contract. Bad Steve! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] to succeed in American politics
Yes about the Evil Jews behind every corner. Look out! Here's another one. What's that in his hand? Looks like a pastrami on rye. --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in many ways, AIPAC has become greater than just another lobby; its work has made unconditional support for Israel an accepted cost of doing business inside the halls of Congress. When it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict, the terms of debate are so influenced by organized Jewish groups, like AIPAC, that to be critical of Israel is to deny oneself the ability to succeed in American politics. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060814/aipacs_hold Mel Gibson should sober up and make Braveheart takes on Washington. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Views in SQL Server
Hi Andy
From: Andy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Views in SQL Server
Mike Yearwood said If you always use parameterized SQL queries, the
parameter contents can not be used for SIA.
Surely it depends how you build the parameter variables - if you let the
user enter them what is to stop them entering e.g. a city name as
manchester go truncate table dbo.sysusers go
No offense meant, but this is another almost myth. Parameter content
is not executed.
Your example would have to be more like:
manchester' go truncate table dbo.sysusers go
If I pass a parameter to a query the profiler shows:
exec sp_executesql N'select * from Table where field = @P1 ', N'@P1
varchar(21)', ''manchester' go truncate table dbo.sysusers go''
Which will only attempt to find records in the table with that value
in the column 'field'. No string scrubbing to remove invalid
characters is required!
The hackers are hoping we're all stupid enough to concatenate in our
applications and stored procedures! Cause if you did such
concatenating in a custom SP, you'd still be open to SIA.
lccmd = select * from Table where field = 'manchester' go truncate
table dbo.sysusers go
sqlexec(m.lnconnection,m.lccmd)
The profiler would show:
exec sp_executesql N'select * from Table where field = 'manchester' go
truncate table dbo.sysusers go'
That entire command would be executed as is and your sysusers would vanish.
and If someone were somehow able to access your database at all and run a
query, they can just as easily run your SPs.
I thought that was the point - you make the error checking in your sp rock
solid so you don't care what tool is used to access it.
I'd guess any tool that can call SPs should be able to create
parameterized ad-hoc SQL. I can only see *needing* an SP for a complex
multi-table multi-step almost procedural function, not for simple or
even complex queries.
btw some comments on this topic seem to imply that SQL Server supports
parameterised queries: afaik Foxpro supports parameterised queries,
including queries to a SQL Server back-end, but SQL Server itself only
supports parameters to sp's - or have I missed something?
That would imply VFP/Access/Crystal Reports/VB were concatenating the
user values into the query command string, which is not true. That
would be a reason to use SPs only! However, let me put it another way.
The product is called SQL Server, not SP Server. ;) It's better than
you're giving it credit for.
From the SQL Server Books Online:
sp_executesql
Executes a Transact-SQL statement or batch that can be reused many
times, or that has been built dynamically. The Transact-SQL statement
or batch can contain embedded parameters.
Syntax
sp_executesql [EMAIL PROTECTED] =] stmt
[
{, [EMAIL PROTECTED] =] N'@parameter_name data_type [,...n]' }
{, [EMAIL PROTECTED] =] 'value1' [,...n] }
]
Which brings me to one last point. If an application is separating a
user from the back-end, why should we be going to all this trouble to
secure the back-end with SPs?
Mike
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RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open your home to terrorists, open your home to a guided missile. Jesus frequented visitations with sinners, and tax collectors. If they didn't want to listen he just shook the dirt off his sandals and found new ones. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Jesus wasn't being hit by Kaytushas. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open your home to terrorists, open your home to a guided missile. Jesus frequented visitations with sinners, and tax collectors. If they didn't want to listen he just shook the dirt off his sandals and found new ones. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Signs that the Apocolypse is upon us: I agree with almost everything you've said. Repent for the day of the Lord is at hand! --- Profox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped I don't remember anyone on this list condemning Syria or Iran either. I guess because they're not Jewish states. /snipped I'll condemn Syria, Iran and Hezboullah. Israel has the right to do what they are doing. However, they won't succeed because you can't fight terrorists or terrorism with a standing army. This is my biggest beef with the stupidity of the Bush Administration's going into Iraq and tying up so much of our resources. They've tied our hands and freed Iran and Syria to do their dirty work. Here's my take on what should have happened: 1. It was the right thing to do in invading Afganistan, but we should have done it with enough of our and our allies troops to fully occupy and pacify it. 2. Leave Iraq alone. Iraq and Saddam was a counter weight against Iran. Take care of Iraq long after every thing else is done. 3. From our base of operations in Afganistan, Fund our own insurgents in Iran and Syria the same way we funded and helped the Mujahudeen beat the Russians. With armed and trained insurgents inside their own country, Iran and Syria would be getting a dose of their own medicine. Syria would topple in a heart beat, Iran would take longer. 4. Send special forces into Pakistan's Northwestern territory to root out Osama Bin Laden. 5. Send troops to occupy the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is already outside of Iraq anyway under the no fly zone, to protect them and the northern Iraqi oil. Saddam couldn't and wouldn't do much about that. 6. Use our vast propaganda machine against the Muslims to pit one against the other. That ain't hard to do. None of them truly like each other. 7. Put Saudi Arabia on notice that we can and will confiscate their wealth held in this country and in other places around the world if they continue funding terrorism and Islamic fundamentalists with oil riches. 8. Do what we did during World War II like developing synthetic rubber and oil to find new sources of energy to rid industrial nations of the need for Middle Eastern oil once and for all. 9. Force Isreal to settle the Palestinian problem once and for all by giving up the West Bank and ceding enough of the worthless desert to connect Gaza and the West Bank. The West Bank belonged to Jordan originally and they gave up all claims to it so it could be used for that purpose. That won't completely stop Palestinian terrorism, but it forces them to finally admit why they are doing what they are doing and eliminates a lot of international sympathy. There are a few other things we could do, but those are the main points. Jim Eddins ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS
Stephen, It's been a long time since I did any XML from VFP. Can VFP pull schema and determine that there is a small combination of tables in an xml file? Or do you have to parse that out yourself? VFP's XMLAdapter can handle it if the schema isn't too complicated. In general, anything output from DataSet.ToXML can be read by XMLAdapter, including multiple tables. However, the MissingSchemaAction=MissingSchemaAction.AddWithKey setting is needed on the .NET DataAdapter to be sure it sends field lengths and precision in the schema -- at least in earlier versions of .NET (haven't tried in 2.0 yet to see if they changed the default setting to actually include that info). If you don't change that, the XML output by DataSet has a brain-dead schema that results in all fields becoming Memos in VFP cursor when XMLAdapter reads it in. Alternatively, you can set up a schema programmatically in XMLAdapter to work around the problem. But back to your question, yes, VFP XMLAdapter can handle multiple tables in the same XML if it has a schema to use in interpreting the data. XMLToCursor cannot handle more than one table, but does not require a schema (makes a best guess on field type, length and precision unless you use 8192 flag to direct the data into an existing pre-formatted cursor). David Stevenson [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
How To Change A Southwest Airlines Boarding Pass From a C or B to and A! http://boardfast.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-change-southwest- airlines.html ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/ztkkm ) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Design question
Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event). Is there a better choice, or is this 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event). Is there a better choice, or is this 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another? Forgot to add: this is something that affects the enable/disable of a control, and is not directly tied to any object's controlsource. -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event). Is there a better choice, or is this 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another? The important thing is that when you create your design, you define an interface that will not be changing and use that for all inter- object communication. Whether it is a property or a method call is not that important; what is important is that you don't have objects accessing implementation details. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event). Is there a better choice, or is this 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another? The important thing is that when you create your design, you define an interface that will not be changing and use that for all inter-object communication. Whether it is a property or a method call is not that important; what is important is that you don't have objects accessing implementation details. And by that you mean to be very interchangable and not get snagged on the different layers from which it may be called, if I understand that principle correctly. An example for folks not familiar with this would be where you program something using objects on a page, then later put them into some other container on a different level (say a page within a pageframe). If you've designed to the interface, everything should still function just fine instead of not being able to find the references correctly. That's another reason why it's good to put the code in the highest level (in this case, the custom form methods) instead of the button.clicks. Also allows for easier re-use if you really need it: like instantiating the form and calling it's custom object -- that's a heck of a lot easier than instantiating the form and having to drive down 'n' levels into the object hierarchy to some button's click event! Just trying to help the lurkers...correct me if wrong. -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Ed, Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. That must be why Ann Coulter is always in a short black dress exposing lots of pasty-colored white skin. Her fans not only think in black and white -- those are the only colors they can see! -- Kris http://www.mcstyles.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Jim: You have just articulated a plan I can actually respect as a potentially viable alternative to what we've done that actually makes tactical and strategic sense on numerous levels that the standard shrill critiques from the black helicopter crowd do not. My hat is off to you and I thank you. - Bob ! -Original Message- ! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Profox ! Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:18 PM ! To: ProFox Email List ! Subject: Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN ! offices in Beirut ! ! snipped ! I don't remember anyone on this list condemning Syria ! or Iran either. I guess because they're not Jewish ! states. ! /snipped ! ! I'll condemn Syria, Iran and Hezboullah. Israel has the ! right to do what they are doing. However, they won't ! succeed because you can't fight terrorists or terrorism ! with a standing army. ! ! This is my biggest beef with the stupidity of the Bush ! Administration's going into Iraq and tying up so much ! of our resources. They've tied our hands and freed ! Iran and Syria to do their dirty work. ! ! Here's my take on what should have happened: ! ! 1. It was the right thing to do in invading Afganistan, ! but we should have done it with enough of our and ! our allies troops to fully occupy and pacify it. ! ! 2. Leave Iraq alone. Iraq and Saddam was a counter ! weight against Iran. Take care of Iraq long after every ! thing else is done. ! ! 3. From our base of operations in Afganistan, Fund ! our own insurgents in Iran and Syria the same way ! we funded and helped the Mujahudeen beat the Russians. ! ! With armed and trained insurgents inside their own ! country, Iran and Syria would be getting a dose of ! their own medicine. Syria would topple in a heart beat, ! Iran would take longer. ! ! 4. Send special forces into Pakistan's Northwestern ! territory to root out Osama Bin Laden. ! ! 5. Send troops to occupy the Kurdish region of Iraq, ! which is already outside of Iraq anyway under the no ! fly zone, to protect them and the northern Iraqi oil. ! ! Saddam couldn't and wouldn't do much about that. ! ! 6. Use our vast propaganda machine against the ! Muslims to pit one against the other. That ain't hard ! to do. None of them truly like each other. ! ! 7. Put Saudi Arabia on notice that we can and will ! confiscate their wealth held in this country and in ! other places around the world if they continue funding ! terrorism and Islamic fundamentalists with oil riches. ! ! 8. Do what we did during World War II like developing ! synthetic rubber and oil to find new sources of energy to ! rid industrial nations of the need for Middle Eastern oil ! once and for all. ! ! 9. Force Isreal to settle the Palestinian problem once ! and for all by giving up the West Bank and ceding enough ! of the worthless desert to connect Gaza and the West Bank. ! ! The West Bank belonged to Jordan originally and they ! gave up all claims to it so it could be used for that purpose. ! ! That won't completely stop Palestinian terrorism, but it ! forces them to finally admit why they are doing what they ! are doing and eliminates a lot of international sympathy. ! ! There are a few other things we could do, but those are ! the main points. ! ! Jim Eddins ! ! ! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
And you only see though thick cataracts. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. That must be why Ann Coulter is always in a short black dress exposing lots of pasty-colored white skin. Her fans not only think in black and white -- those are the only colors they can see! -- Kris http://www.mcstyles.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Bob, You have just articulated a plan I can actually respect as a potentially viable alternative to what we've done that actually makes tactical and strategic sense on numerous levels that the standard shrill critiques from the black helicopter crowd do not. My hat is off to you and I thank you. Unfortunately, what we need now is a plan that starts from today and goes forward. We don't have a time machine so we can go back to 9/12 and get a do-over. Kristyne McDaniel www.shamrocktrails.com, www.mctyles.com, www.emryldlife.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
On 7/31/06, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Her fans not only think in black and white -- those are the only colors they can see! Kris, tsss http://www.highlightskids.com/Science/ScienceQuestions/h1sciQbwColors.asp A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
On 7/31/06, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software I don't do Microsoft Betas any more, but in the nineties a whole slew of FoxPro folks devoted hundreds of hours to backing up, installing, configured, testing, documenting, reporting and advocating for bugs to be fixed in FoxPro. It made for an incredibly good product, worthy of version Dot-Zero status and ready to go into production the day it was released. FoxPro teams were patient and good sports about the whole thing, and knocked themselves out to deliver a great product, which they did, time after time. THAT was beta-testing. Microsoft public betas are nothing more than a public showing of what they are going to foist on their customers, with a chance for the marketeers to develop answers to the most frequency voiced complaints. I can't imagine paying for the privilege. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
So, what are the 'real issues'? List what you think are the Top five 'real issues' and I'll have a go at it. V/R //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAF Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:10 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut On Jul 31, 2006, at 4:25 AM, Dominic Burford wrote: The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Hiding behind such a straw man is an excuse so that they do not have to come out and debate the real issues. They cower and hide hehind their whimsical caricatures instead, and their infantile little tag lines such as 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' (yawn). And yet so many people here continue to feel the need to engage them. The only people who haven't already figured out their lack of substance aren't going to get it because others keep trying to point it out. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] How To Change A Southwest Airlines Boarding Pass From a C or B to and A! ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/ztkkm ) I fly the other direction Northwest. What does an A boarding pass get you? And if they catch your in a forgery, can the feds take you away? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Ted Roche wrote: I can't imagine paying for the privilege. Perhaps there will be a backlash large enough that they'll recant. -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
On Jul 31, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: So, what are the 'real issues'? List what you think are the Top five 'real issues' and I'll have a go at it. The problem is not the choice of issue. The problem is responding to vacuous drivel, no matter what the issue may be. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: And by that you mean to be very interchangable and not get snagged on the different layers from which it may be called, if I understand that principle correctly. An example for folks not familiar with this would be where you program something using objects on a page, then later put them into some other container on a different level (say a page within a pageframe). If you've designed to the interface, everything should still function just fine instead of not being able to find the references correctly. That's another reason why it's good to put the code in the highest level (in this case, the custom form methods) instead of the button.clicks. Also allows for easier re-use if you really need it: like instantiating the form and calling it's custom object -- that's a heck of a lot easier than instantiating the form and having to drive down 'n' levels into the object hierarchy to some button's click event! Just trying to help the lurkers...correct me if wrong. That's one of the main reasons for not hard-coding paths to objects. But no matter how you reference an object, you should always program to interface, not to implementation. The example I gave back when I used to give this topic at conferences was a light switch in a room. In your app, you want to control the lighting by turning the switch on and off. Now let's imagine the switch is a typical mechanical switch with contacts that are opened and closed when you flip the toggle. In code, you could write oSwitch.contact1.Closed = .T., or oSwitch.TurnOn(), and either code would work great. However, if at a later date the switch was replaced by a mercury switch, or an electronic switch, or a dimmer switch, the first example of code would probably fail, since it was written to use an implementation detail of a particular switch, instead of the public interface all switches are designed to use. By coding to the public interface, such as the TurnOn() method, the code will work no matter how the switch works internally. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Back alley liposuction
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Re: Design question
Ed Leafe wrote: The example I gave back when I used to give this topic at conferences was a light switch in a room. In your app, you want to control the lighting by turning the switch on and off. Now let's imagine the switch is a typical mechanical switch with contacts that are opened and closed when you flip the toggle. In code, you could write oSwitch.contact1.Closed = .T., or oSwitch.TurnOn(), and either code would work great. However, if at a later date the switch was replaced by a mercury switch, or an electronic switch, or a dimmer switch, the first example of code would probably fail, since it was written to use an implementation detail of a particular switch, instead of the public interface all switches are designed to use. By coding to the public interface, such as the TurnOn() method, the code will work no matter how the switch works internally. I meant to reference that example too in my session at FoxForward! I recall you saying that...I think it was in the Profox archives from 2001? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
From: David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fly the other direction Northwest. What does an A boarding pass get you? And if they catch your in a forgery, can the feds take you away? In their cattle call you get to go first if you have an A boarding pass. Some of the comments to the blog state that if you change your boarding pass then it is invalid and yes maybe they will take you away... Also, Southwest is changing their boarding procedures to have assigned seating and that will get rid of the A, B, or C boarding passes. Thanks. I know that when they call for boarding of the back of the plane in a NWA flight some people have to go on just to get their luggage set, I mean they can't be bothered to told they are not suposed to be on in an orderly manner. Was it luck of the draw on who gets the A, B, C or was it in seniority like the # of miles you have flown? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
Stepehen, Just tell them anything, and it's ok to forge someone else's name too. Can I have your laptop?G John Harvey www.cyber-posse.com www.johnharveysheriff.com http://memphiscrime.blogspot.com www.votinginmemphis.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:04 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there? From: David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fly the other direction Northwest. What does an A boarding pass get you? And if they catch your in a forgery, can the feds take you away? In their cattle call you get to go first if you have an A boarding pass. Some of the comments to the blog state that if you change your boarding pass then it is invalid and yes maybe they will take you away... Also, Southwest is changing their boarding procedures to have assigned seating and that will get rid of the A, B, or C boarding passes. Thanks. I know that when they call for boarding of the back of the plane in a NWA flight some people have to go on just to get their luggage set, I mean they can't be bothered to told they are not suposed to be on in an orderly manner. Was it luck of the draw on who gets the A, B, C or was it in seniority like the # of miles you have flown? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airline security is a joke --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you say that? This is the company spotting a forgery on where your sitting on the plane, no SWA doesn't sell a seat assignment just an open spot. When you get your ticket scanned it shows that your supposed to be on that flight, and not on a different one. You are just forging when your allowed onto the aircraft that's all. I am just guessing that it's a felony to alter a boarding pass that your printing at home. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: a collection issue
Hi Vassilis To directly access an item inside a collection for filling a property, you can use collection[index] or collection(index) (like it's an array) This is also handy when trying to access a value in the watch window As you've probably seen, debugging values inside a collection in the debugger using the item() is impossible. Accessing the collection as if it's an array makes it possible. BTW, Changing the value of the collection-item is impossible, even when using the array-like approach. So oCol(2) = test doesn't work. Regards, Sietse Wijnker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vassilis Aggelakos Sent: maandag 31 juli 2006 14:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a collection issue Thanks Mal, I use collections in my apps very frequently. Usually I have a simple ColItem class that looks like this: DEFINE CLASS myColItem AS Custom Key = .null. Value = .null. TagInfo = .null. oChild = .null. ENDDEFINE I add this object to my collection and everything is fine when I want to modify a value but playing now with collections I thought that I have missed something obvious. Thank you very much -V ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
On Jul 31, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: I meant to reference that example too in my session at FoxForward! I recall you saying that...I think it was in the Profox archives from 2001? I don't know. I know I first started using that example back in the mid-90s when I was teaching for Flash, so it's very possible. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Michael Babcock wrote: Ted Roche wrote: I can't imagine paying for the privilege. Perhaps there will be a backlash large enough that they'll recant. Nah, there'll be enough lemmings out there who will think it'll be cool to be 'beta testing'. They can brag to their golf buddies or try to pick up chicks in bars with their new line. Even if there was a backlash, do you really think that the MSFT muckity mucks and marketroids would care? They never have before. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Nah, there'll be enough lemmings out there who will think it'll be cool to be 'beta testing'. They can brag to their golf buddies or try to pick up chicks in bars with their new line. Hey, does that work (picking up chicks with those geeky lines)? ;-) Even if there was a backlash, do you really think that the MSFT muckity mucks and marketroids would care? They never have before. Now I seem to recall some things in the past (and not-so-distant at that) where M$ backed off and/or changed their line regarding something that got heavy backlash. Think of all those things that never came to beHailstorm anyone? -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: I meant to reference that example too in my session at FoxForward! I recall you saying that...I think it was in the Profox archives from 2001? I don't know. I know I first started using that example back in the mid-90s when I was teaching for Flash, so it's very possible. Come to think of it, it was perhaps from some paper you wrote...a 300 or 500 level paper comes to mind? Oh wellthe lesson stuck! -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] The Zionists/NeoCons have infiltrated even Arab TV
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214ar=1050wmvak=null http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214ar=1050wmvak=null --- Enjoy - Bob --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Floating Command Buttons
Hi Tracy My bad. I am thinking of a picture with the buttons, floating over the grid that drops to next row everytime a row is added. But still you can click on the buttons and execute something. Eurico. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?
Was it luck of the draw on who gets the A, B, C or was it in seniority like the # of miles you have flown? I believe (never having flown Southwest) that it's in order of check- in. -Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
petetheisen wrote: I would have sent my wife and for God's sake my children to safety should I have chosen to resist. In their culture it's good to give your life for the cause. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
petetheisen wrote: Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. Wow. Why not call Condi and tell her what is really going on. She will just have you relocate and fix the problem. It's really easy! Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: And Israel has responded with an over the top display of military power that has just recently seen 37 children killed. They have also bombed the exit roads so that civilians cannot escape, they have bombed urban areas where civialians live, including hospitals. I thought that Israel bombed the supply routes for new ammo and or weapons coming in. The straw man is to paint this as a simple issue, and call people who disagree with you as terrorist loving liberals. Did Israel tell the world they won't negotiate with terrorists? Yes. Did they push that message way to far this time? Hell yeah. Has this crap been going on since Abraham? Pretty much. Will it change in our lifetime? Only time will tell. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Here's my list of what I think should happen tomorrow: 1. Give every neocon in Washington a pink slip and a court date for the murder and destruction they've wrought in Iraq; the debt they've incurred the American public, and the loss of respect for America throughout the world. 2. Bust up media conglomerates with much hardened anti-trust laws 3. Require news services to give equal time/coverage to opposing points of view 4. Put America on an even-handed footing with Israel. No more taxpayer funding, no more arms and no more special treatment then we give any other like-sized country. Promote a combined democracy approach and/or anything else that might work, but the time has come for that country to stand on it's own feet and reconcile it's own conflicts. 5. Apologize to the Arabic/Muslim world for having shown them so much disrespect for so long. 6. Withdraw our military from the ME immediately. It's a lost cause and any further military involvement will only make that very bad situation worse. Immediately switch to the UN as the basis to carry on political negotiations with the countries of the ME. 7. Strengthen the UN. With a strong American commitment, it can serve it's purpose. It's been hobbled because it lacks that commitment. #1 issue is wmd disarmament. 8. Use our resources and leadership to contribute our fair share to relieving humanitarian disasters in the world. It's righteousness and the higher qualities that man aspires to, not guns, that minimizes terrorism. 9. Strengthen Interpol and UN managed police services to counter remaining terrorism. 10. Demonstrate how life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness works in the technology age by dismantling all trappings of Big Brother; insure technology works for us and never against us. 11. Institute massive building projects here and in space to challenge people and give them direction. 12. Fund and encourage an Internet - TV merger and the use of this facility to spread education through the world. 13. Encourage international travel in every way possible 14. Force the legal system to give everyone equal access to the law. 15. Solve our energy problems by calling on all engineers to put a Herculean effort into the task Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
