RE: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John,

 They can have mine...
 
 
 When they pry them from

There are big, bad liberals like Steve and I with guns too. We won't be
giving ours up either. We don't have anything but rifles, shotguns, and
handguns though... 

Kristyne McDaniel
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[OT] beware of catalysts to control the internet

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Arnold

Here's a clip, and then some rambling about it. I'm too pressed for time
to properly organize the  line of thinking, but I think it's so
important that I did put a few hours into it.


The damage goes beyond Iraq. Al Qaeda's media arm, As-Sahab (The
Cloud) has similarly improved the quality and frequency of its videos;
the group, says former State Department adviser Philip Zelikow, uses
the Internet to provide a sense of virtual identity now that its
Afghan training camps have largely been destroyed. The question is how
to fight back, when today's most powerful technologies-the Web, cell
phones-are better suited to small, nimble organizations. Back in the
1930s national leaders could almost wholly control the framing of their
messages, says Donald Shaw, a professor of media theory at the
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill who has written about
reforms for military public-affairs officers. But now, the podium has
lost its influence. For those who once stood behind it, that message at
least is very clear.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16497895/site/newsweek/


In this article, the case is made that the Internet is significantly
helping our enemy. 

How will our fear and paranoid-driven war-making rulers respond? 

Can you just hear Cheney and his Neocon pals talking? We must control
the Internet! It's being used against us and this is the last straw! Get
our best minds on the problem and come back with a list of
recommendations on how we secure the Internet so terrorists can't use
it! 

Nobody will mention the other implication: that a controlled Internet
takes the wind out of the legitimate protester's sails as well.

How could they control the Internet, anyway? Really not too hard. First,
require positive ID at login. Then it's simple: record all Internet
traffic in a giant database the size of some mountain in Colorado. Then,
when a person comes under scrutiny because, say, because the Information
lords don't like him, all they have to do is quietly sift through all
that information until they come across something that they can hook
into, give it to the Puff Squad, and walla! Another target neutralized. 

Nobody, it turns out, is perfect. In some way or the other we all have
done something we're not proud of, and perhaps even something against
the ever-expanding body of law we live by. There are so many laws on the
books that if you said you've never committed a crime, I'd think you're
not being completely honest. Example: every time I drive without a seat
belt, I'm committing a crime. If I insist, I can wind up in jail,
heavily fined, and even be puffed up as a criminal for scoffing the
law, complete with unshaven photo. 

Give someone access to this database, and walla: gonzo to the
opposition! 

Just imagine someone sifting through 10 or 20 years of your
Internet/email usage, combined with info from tracking devices
everywhere, and tell me the Puff Squad can't find ways to beat you to a
pulp.

So the game boils down to: who has access to this information, because
we all know that he who runs the information runs the show. Take into
account the possibility that he doesn't like you, and you've got a
real problem.

Should this information exist in the first place may be the real
question, because if it does exist, then someone has to run it. Should
it become a tool for those in the same think-tanks who duped us into
war? Can we trust them to decide who is a patriot and who is the enemy?

You may recall that in the 60's there were many cases of gov't spying on
protestors going on. Well, times have changed a lot, and now those doing
the spying don't even have to leave their office. A wild guess would be
that today investigators have 100x more resources then in the 60's, as a
result of that work.

A question: do you think I'll be able to post a message, talking like
this, to this forum, from an anonymous userid next year? The year after?


I don't think we can get around the need for positive logins for things
like shopping and voting, but we must support our right to anonymous,
unrecorded, untraceable, unfettered internet access. It's either that or
be subjected to 'those who run the information run the show'. The choice
really is that stark, and it all hinges on one word: anonymous. With
anonymous, the info isn't recorded in the first place, and that's the
only way to guarantee no links to it.

Had the framers of our Constitution and Bill of Rights lived in modern
times, they would have included a right to privacy in the Bill of
Rights. Because the matter wasn't really important in those days, it
wasn't an issue. Today, however, it is an issue, and the best solution
is the one they would have applied had they known.

You may hate those protestors, despise them, but you *must* protect
their right to free and anonymous speech. Take away this right and you
will effectively defeat it. 

Given the attitude of those in control in Washington, with their war on
terrorism excuse, they are far more likely 

RE: Foxpro VM? :)

2007-01-08 Thread Tristan Leask
in your best Portsmouth accent

Easiest Exam Ever!

/in your best Portsmouth accent


Tristan

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Reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) philosophy examination paper 
which contained the question - Is this a question ? 

The student awarded the highest mark supposedly responded Only if this 
is an answer.

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[OT] the fundamental solution to terror is ...

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Arnold

Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2535310,00.html

That's scary, if it means that Bush -- presumably on the advice of the
Neocon-in-Chief, Vice President Dick Cheney -- has decided to launch a
major push, Kagan-style, for victory in Iraq.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=153798


Since we're approaching some rather large moments of truth, I thought
I'd ask a question.

Which is the fundamental solution to terror?

(a) Love
(b) Hate


The up side of (a) has been described by writers, poets and artists
through history in ways not available to my lesser intellect. The down
side is that to love, one becomes vulnerable.

The up side of (b) isn't really clear at all, but the down side is that
to be an ever greater terror, one has to live with never-ending fear and
paranoia; not to mention the when you live by the gun, you die by the
gun syndrome. 

Given the circumstances of today, and the way things are headed, I think
we really need to examine this question. It's clear what our rulers want
to do, but is that what *we* want to do? I think  that, when all is said
and done, the average person - anywhere - will go with (a). 

But if this is the case, then we surely need to start communicating it,
because time and events are working against us. If the ME war expands,
it will set it motion still more events that we really don't want to
happen. If instead we put an end to it and turn our attention to the
real scourges of the world, we'll at least have a chance to recover.  



Bill






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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 09:31, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Actually these points are not at all settled. The UN investigator
 wandered around Iraq for the better part of two years looking in the
 opposite direction to where he might actually find something
 And these 'facts' you got from your undercover contact in the UN?

 , motivated mostly by fear - and for good reason!
 Now you read minds too!

 Then there is the question of whatever in the world would have been in all 
 those trucks going to Syria if NOT WMD!
 Gold?
 
 Hi Ricardo!
 
 What facts? I said it wasn't settled. All the gold in Iraq would fit in one 
 truck, a small one at that. And yes, I do read minds. Yours is blank.

Hahaha! Yeah, my mind is blank. But I managed to get you out of your
character. Now you sound a lot like Mike.



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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Apparently all you scholary types arent as well versed on america as ya'll
 want to be.

I have first hand knowledge of America. I live in America, I was born in
America, my ancestors were born in America for many generations.

 There is most definitely a movement to disarm the world and the us by the
 un.
 
 There theory is probably that if nobody has guns, that will cut down on
 crime.
 
 The only thing that a criminal will respect is an armed person that is more
 then willing to end their problems. 
 

That's exactly Ahmadinejad's point. Isn't it? What varies is the
identity of the criminal.

 
 Virgil Bierschwale
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 http://www.bierschwale.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Aráoz
 Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:10 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Come the Revolution
 
 John Baird wrote:
 Why is it, that every point made against your philosophy is a strawman 
 argument?

 
 We. Maybe because there is no project (nor has ever been) in the UN
 to take the guns off US citizens? Besides, do you forget your country  ,
 along with Russia and others, has veto powers in the UN? Would it be too
 much to ask you to believe that these vetoes are mostly responsible for UN
 immobility and uselessness?
 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:28 AM
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 On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Leland Jackson wrote:

 don't forget that the un wants to take our guns so that we can't 
 defend ourselves from the un and others -Original Message-

 This is a point that should be negotiable.
  No, this is a strawman. The UN is doing no such thing, but people
 who 
 are unconcerned with truth love to make this claim in order to rile 
 up the masses against the big bad UN.

 -- Ed Leafe
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Re: [OT] Feminists forcing men to sit to pee.

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Sunday 07 January 2007 13:21, Michael Madigan wrote:
 You thing?
 
 Hi Michael!
 
 He has thing on the brain. Or a thing for brains. We aren't dealing with 
 a 
 serious person here.

I can see I've really managed to piss you. Good job!

 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leland Jackson wrote:
 Do you think Pete might be Mad-again's alter ego?
 Nope, I thing Mike is Pete's alter ego
 



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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 It would appear to me that you know less about us then you claim to know.
 Our enemies and the one's that lost vietnam for us and are trying to lose
 iraq for us are our politicians that would sell their soul for a buck. 
 
 
 Virgil Bierschwale
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:27 PM
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 Subject: Re: [OT] Come the Revolution
 
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 The best way to control a country, even one as powerful as america is 
 to remove the ability to defend themselves.
 Ask the UN if you don't believe me, because they're damn sure trying


 
 Do you think US people are that much inferior to Vietnamese and Iraqis?
 Do you think US people are yellow cowards?
 
 Vietnamese and Iraqis had/have no nukes, not much of an air force, no navy.
 And yet the 'superpower' was/is not able to control those countries. Do you
 deem US people weaker than them?
 
 

Keep reading but still no answers to my simple questions. That would
mean that you are on the WRONG side of the line.



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RE: Escape from Infinite loop

2007-01-08 Thread Ali İhsan Türkoğlu
Mr. Mike show very good ways:


There are plenty of ways you can do this.

The simplest would be to create a form property, lStop, which is set to .T.
in the stop button's Click()

Then, in your loop, you will need to call DoEvents() once in a while. This
will let the UI events happen, so your code can check to see if lStop has
been set to .T. 

If it has, you can end your loop.


Another way would be to use two programs

1. a UI-less EXE that performs your loop.
2. a UI that creates and deletes a file on disk

When the UI application starts, it should create the file, and launch the
UI-less app.

When the stop button is clicked on the UI application, it should delete the
file.

The loop can do something like this:


do while .t.
   if file(myservice.txt)
   *** Code to open DBF, look for records, and process
   else
   exit
   endif
enddo
So if myservice.txt exists, the loop keeps running. If it gets deleted, the
loop stops.

One benefit of this method is that the loop can be terminated by deleting a
file from Windows explorer, if all else fails.
Cloud Music Company

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Subject: Escape from Infinite loop

I should write a VFP program that work on server. Continuously, This program
will look a vfp table, if new records added, make some jobs.

User should start and stop this program.

Question is: How can I escape from an endless loop, when user clicks the
stop buton on my vfp form?

 

Is this type program consume much CPU time due to endless do while loop?

 

Thanks for all help.

 

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RE: Escape from Infinite loop

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Arnold

 The loop can do something like this:
 
 
 do while .t.
if file(myservice.txt)
*** Code to open DBF, look for records, and process
else
exit
endif
 enddo
 So if myservice.txt exists, the loop keeps running. If it 
 gets deleted, the loop stops.
 
 One benefit of this method is that the loop can be terminated 
 by deleting a file from Windows explorer, if all else fails. 


Wouldn't it be better to put the test into a timer event, so it doesn't
waste resources? I haven't implemented your appoach anywhere, but can
see it's usefulness. I'd just like not to eat a lot of resources when in
this mode, which potentially can go on for some time. Also, I am
assuming that timer-driven events are a hardware (clock) thing and not a
loop somewhere within VFP's runtime, in which case it doesn't matter as
much. 

I believe this question has come up before, but don't think I got a
clear understanding of it: do timer events eat any resources while
waiting to fire?


Bill




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RE: Foxpro VM? :)

2007-01-08 Thread Garry Bettle
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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Man-wai CHANG
Ed Leafe wrote:
   Yesterday I posted Part 1 of the screencast on using the data  
 environment of the Dabo Class Designer to create a data-aware  
 application. I've just completed Part 2, and it's now available at:
 
 http://leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironment1.html

I suggset you forget about the DataEnvironment class. It's in Foxpro
merely for drap-and-drop programmers. Real programmers don't DD, and so
far there is no really productive use for DD.

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Re: Foxpro VM? :)

2007-01-08 Thread Man-wai CHANG
 Reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) philosophy examination paper 
 which contained the question - Is this a question ? 
 
 The student awarded the highest mark supposedly responded Only if this 
 is an answer.

Look, there are policies in various countries protecting ancient
artifacts. Why isn't there one for old compilers? Why must there
be a new programming tool and a new generation of young programmer,
but not old tools + young+old programmer?

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[NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Man-wai CHANG

It's really a pig in both speed an size... is there trick to speed it up?

(what the hell is it+.Net doing in the background??)

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[NF] Foxpro DOM in a browser?

2007-01-08 Thread Man-wai CHANG

Is there such an effort going? Can a 3rd-party developer create a DOM
and be used by any browser? We have these VM appliances thing offered
from VMWare and Virtual PC... so..

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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Man-wai CHANG wrote:

 I suggset you forget about the DataEnvironment class. It's in Foxpro
 merely for drap-and-drop programmers. Real programmers don't DD,  
 and so
 far there is no really productive use for DD.

There is no need to use the visual tools. You can create the exact  
same application in Dabo using nothing but Notepad.

We're also happy to work with the fake programmers as well as the  
real programmers.

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Calendar Control

2007-01-08 Thread Garry Bettle
Howdy all,

Hope you all had a good weekend.

I've placed an ole calendar on a form for a user to select.

I'd like to then use that date in a method, but for the life of me, I
can't see a property (i.e. Value) or method (i.e. GetDate).

Any ideas\work arounds\alternatives?

Cheers,

Garry

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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/8/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no need to use the visual tools. You can create the exact
 same application in Dabo using nothing but Notepad.

 We're also happy to work with the fake programmers as well as the
 real programmers.


http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_51.htm

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RE: Calendar Control

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Arnold

Try 

this.object.Value

In the control's methods


Bill



 
 Howdy all,
 
 Hope you all had a good weekend.
 
 I've placed an ole calendar on a form for a user to select.
 
 I'd like to then use that date in a method, but for the life 
 of me, I can't see a property (i.e. Value) or method (i.e. GetDate).
 
 Any ideas\work arounds\alternatives?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Garry
 
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 MCP, Security+, MCTS SQL 2005
 
 
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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:

 http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_51.htm

Actually, most of the current hard-core programmers outside of the  
Where do you want to go today? world wouldn't dream of working in  
anything other than vi or emacs. That's one of the main reasons that  
there was really no good visual UI designer in the Python world;  
we're trying to change that.

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RE: [NF] Nice Article on fighting Election Corruption

2007-01-08 Thread Nick Cipollina
Why was this thread not marked [OT]?  I subscribed to this version of
the list, so I wouldn't get this garbage.

Thanks,
 
Nick Cipollina
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Or Florida and Ohio...That's where the dirty elections are now...

Oh, bye the bye, hasn't this gone [OT]?

Helio W. wrote:

John, you should try to sell your consulting services to the brazilian
government.

On 1/7/07, john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Yeah, that's me with the scruff and he took the picture.

You have to understand the demographics of that district. We almost
won in
a
special election and that was huge. Seventy percent of that district
is
black and that's about the way the general came out. People don't vote
in
special elections, and we knew it, otherwise, we wouldn't have even
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RE: Calendar Control

2007-01-08 Thread Garry Bettle
On 1/8/07, Bill Arnold wrote:
 Try

 this.object.Value

 In the control's methods


 Bill


Picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue...

Thanks Bill.  It's been awhile since I was doing form development.

Cheers,

Garry


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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/8/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:

  http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_51.htm

 Actually, most of the current hard-core programmers outside of the
 Where do you want to go today? world wouldn't dream of working in
 anything other than vi or emacs. That's one of the main reasons that
 there was really no good visual UI designer in the Python world;
 we're trying to change that.


I know, even did it that way a long time ago. Still, i'm not in the MS
crowd...and i don't mean Microsoft...

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Re: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Man-wai CHANG
Man-wai CHANG wrote:
 It's really a pig in both speed an size... is there trick to speed it up?
 
 (what the hell is it+.Net doing in the background??)
 

But then everything manufactured and patented by Micro$oft is not
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Re: Here are some beautiful slides of America

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chet Gardiner wrote:
 Beautiful sides of the world: http://www.un.org/

 Leland Jackson wrote:

   
 America:

 http://oldbluewebdesigns.com/mybeautifulamerica.htm

 Regards,

 LelandJ
 

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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote:
   We're also happy to work with the fake programmers as well as the  
 real programmers.
   

ROFLMAO!  Good one, Ed!

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Re: Calendar Control

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Garry Bettle wrote:
 Picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue...
   

Another classic movie that never ceases to make me laugh!  Good one, Gary!

http://imdb.com/title/tt0080339/

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Re: Here are some beautiful slides of America

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin Cully
I'm doing some research/prep right now.  Kim is doing our taxes to see 
how much trouble we're in. g  We'll see where we're at.  Affordability 
is key though!  Every dollar helps.

Kevin Cully
CULLY Technologies, LLC

Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006!
http://foxforward.net


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 BZZZT!  Both of you owe $1 to the Hotlanta Slush Fund (aka FoxForward 
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 Kevin, to help make this conference even MORE affordable to all 
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[NF] USCotD

2007-01-08 Thread Adam Buckland

Useful Software Collection of the Day

http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!1231.entry

All the MS powertoys and suchlike, without having to spend a week wading
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RE: [OT] beware of catalysts to control the internet

2007-01-08 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Heya Bill -

I only have 2 observations :

1.  The government of Singapore tracks everything coming and going through
any internet connection.  It's part of their anti-porn, anti-terrorist
tracking.  If the US wanted to replicate the process, the 'foundation' of
'what to do and how' is already there, and I'm certain the details of
'how' could be shared to the proper US officials.

2.  I swear the Patriot Act and it's recent amendments already provide for
the type of internet tracking you are talking about.  There are filters
that instantly track against a list of tag words, for web sites and email.

and one comment:

The sites you are talking about are not based in the USA, so the US
government won't be able to shut them down.  On the other hand, who is
tracking the traffic at the sites other than the site owner and it's ISP?

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Re: Here are some beautiful slides of America

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kevin Cully wrote:
 I'm doing some research/prep right now.  Kim is doing our taxes to see 
 how much trouble we're in. g  We'll see where we're at.  Affordability 
 is key though!  Every dollar helps.

 Kevin Cully
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 http://foxforward.net
   
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Re: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:42 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

 Well, I wouldn't say it so brashly, but I've felt that way somewhat
 about the VFP DE for some time, as I thought it tied you into a VFP
 backend pretty much.  Using a different approach (like n-tier in my
 case) allows me much more flexibility, imo.

Well, sure; it doesn't make sense to lock in your design to one  
thing. You can define a connection to MySQL, and if later you want to  
change to an MS SQL Server backend, all you have to do is update the  
connection information, and everything will still work.

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Re: [OT] Sociopath?

2007-01-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 08 January 2007 10:01, Hal Kaplan wrote:
 = Subject: Re: [OT] Sociopath?
snip
 Pete, I knew I could count on you for this.  Thanks for maintaining my
 confidence in you!

Hi Hal!

Never let a brother down.
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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 07 January 2007 23:31, Michael Madigan wrote:

Hi Michael!

There is one in the Linux group who has possibilities if she could get 
contacts or nicer glasses.

 You know any female programmers that are hotties? LMAO

  Hi Michael!
 
  You never know from web personalities, Kristyne
  could be a real hottie.

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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Leland Jackson
Here is the link to the UN Charter in English:

http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/index.html

Regards,

LelandJ



Leland Jackson wrote:

Gun control should NOT be an issue within the jurisdiction of the UN.  
The UN could never reach concences or enforce a resolution to disarm all 
citizens of the world, unless the UN evolved into an autocratic 
organization which ruled the world.

Gun control should be an issue within the jurisdiction of each country.  
The below link is to a debate on whether citizens should have the right 
to keep and bear arms.  It show the many side of this issue, which can 
be very complex and emotionally driven.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=21212007

or

http://tinyurl.com/ye69nv

Regards,

LelandJ

Leland Jackson wrote:

  

I recently joined the NRA.  I took a five year membership, which 
provides me a small pocket knife, a free subscription to a gun magazine 
of my choice, and last but not least, a strong voice of advocacy within 
government to protect second amendment rights of citizen to bear arms.  
I selected the American Rifleman magazine of which I have received the 
December 2006 and January  2007 issues.

The UN is still in its infancy; developing, evolving, and learning.  In 
time the UN could become an organization that lives up to its potential 
to act as a mediator between conflicting countries in help to resolve 
disputes in a peaceful manner, to act as a world wide guardian of human 
rights, and to act as an advocate for a healthy, clean planet.

It is up to the countries that make up the UN to shape it into an 
organization that meet the challenges of the future.

Regards,

LelandJ



Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

 



Leland, you're in abilene, home of god, mom and apple pie and guns...
Get some of your buddies to show you their NRA magazines between may and
august of this year and see where your UN really stands...



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Right,  the UN would be an organization in which each country had
representation.  The UN would then be concerned with resolving international
disputes, generally guarding basic human rights, and encouraging responsible
stewardship of our planet.  The UN would need to respect the sovernty of
each country to make thier own laws, religious customs, justice system, and
provide their own military forces to protect against attacks from enemies
like neighboring countries, etc.

Regards,

LelandJ


Ed Leafe wrote:



   

  

On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Leland Jackson wrote:



  

 



don't forget that the un wants to take our guns so that we can't 
defend ourselves from the un and others -Original Message-

   

  

 



This is a point that should be negotiable.
 



   

  

No, this is a strawman. The UN is doing no such thing, but people
  

 



who 


   

  

are unconcerned with truth love to make this claim in order to rile up 
the masses against the big bad UN.

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Re: [OT] the fundamental solution to terror is ...

2007-01-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 08 January 2007 04:47, Bill Arnold wrote:
snip
 Which is the fundamental solution to terror?

 (a) Love
 (b) Hate

Hi Bill!

False dilemma. Ed will let YOU get away with it because you are on his side.

The sensible person Loves his friends and benefactors, and Hates those who 
would kill him or his friends and benefactors. But it is not necessary to 
Hate terrorists in order to kill them. You would kill a rattlesnake if you 
found it in your bed but you don't have to hate rattlesnakes to do so.
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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 08 January 2007 05:05, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
snip
  What facts? I said it wasn't settled. All the gold in Iraq would fit in
  one truck, a small one at that. And yes, I do read minds. Yours is blank.

 Hahaha! Yeah, my mind is blank. But I managed to get you out of your
 character. Now you sound a lot like Mike.

Hi Ricardo!

You haven't been around long enough to know what my character is capable of. 
Actually, sometimes Mike sounds like me.
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Re: [OT] Feminists forcing men to sit to pee.

2007-01-08 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 08 January 2007 05:11, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Pete Theisen wrote:
  On Sunday 07 January 2007 13:21, Michael Madigan wrote:
  You thing?
 
  Hi Michael!
 
  He has thing on the brain. Or a thing for brains. We aren't dealing
  with a serious person here.

 I can see I've really managed to piss you. Good job!

Hi Ricardo!

No you haven't, I was smiling when I typed that.
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Printing a mailing address on a report mailer

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
I foresee a one-page report as a deliverable for a client that will be 
mailed.  I'd like to image the mailing information on the backside 
(using a 2-sided duplex capable printer).  Has anyone ever done this, 
and is there any trick to it?

App will be programmed in VFP9 SP1, running on Win XP Pro machines.

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RE: Escape from Infinite loop

2007-01-08 Thread Ali İhsan Türkoğlu
Mr. Bill, 
If the load is not so much, I think you right.
My program will call WebServices continuously. If demands are much, I may
run the same program more than one in the server. If I use timer event, I
don't sure what should be the intervals. More interval means client wait
more, short intervals may decrease the capture of stop button click event.
I mean when user click the stop button, if program in job, will not reponse.
Isn't it?

Ali Ihsan 

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 The loop can do something like this:
 
 
 do while .t.
if file(myservice.txt)
*** Code to open DBF, look for records, and process
else
exit
endif
 enddo
 So if myservice.txt exists, the loop keeps running. If it 
 gets deleted, the loop stops.
 
 One benefit of this method is that the loop can be terminated 
 by deleting a file from Windows explorer, if all else fails. 


Wouldn't it be better to put the test into a timer event, so it doesn't
waste resources? I haven't implemented your appoach anywhere, but can
see it's usefulness. I'd just like not to eat a lot of resources when in
this mode, which potentially can go on for some time. Also, I am
assuming that timer-driven events are a hardware (clock) thing and not a
loop somewhere within VFP's runtime, in which case it doesn't matter as
much. 

I believe this question has come up before, but don't think I got a
clear understanding of it: do timer events eat any resources while
waiting to fire?


Bill




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[NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync

2007-01-08 Thread Tracy Pearson
I'm starting a vertical market project which is to work on either PalmOS or
the PocketPC.

Is there a way to detect, programmatically, if ActiveSync and HotSync is
installed?

Thanks,
Tracy




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RE: Printing a mailing address on a report mailer

2007-01-08 Thread Rick Quilhot
Just set up Page 2 as the image you want.
You might have to play with placement, if you are using windowed
envelopes.

Rick Q

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I foresee a one-page report as a deliverable for a client that will be 
mailed.  I'd like to image the mailing information on the backside 
(using a 2-sided duplex capable printer).  Has anyone ever done this, 
and is there any trick to it?

App will be programmed in VFP9 SP1, running on Win XP Pro machines.

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Re: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 I'm starting a vertical market project which is to work on either PalmOS or
 the PocketPC.

 Is there a way to detect, programmatically, if ActiveSync and HotSync is
 installed?
   

Sorry Tracey, no answer to your question, but I must say that I'm 
excited for you, assuming VFP is in the mix somewhere in that PocketPC 
or PalmOS app!  I've heard recently that it's very possible to get this 
to happen.  (Heard it either here or on VFUG, iirc.)

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RE: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync

2007-01-08 Thread Tracy Pearson
Back in 2003 we released a PalmOS application built with Satellite Forms.
I'm using the codebase to copy it into Pocket PC using the PDB file format.
Most of my VFP sync code will be reused, it shouldn't be to difficult.

Tracy


 -Original Message-
 From: MB Software Solutions
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:24 PM

 Sorry Tracey, no answer to your question, but I must say that I'm
 excited for you, assuming VFP is in the mix somewhere in that
 PocketPC
 or PalmOS app!  I've heard recently that it's very possible
 to get this
 to happen.  (Heard it either here or on VFUG, iirc.)

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Re: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync

2007-01-08 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Back in 2003 we released a PalmOS application built with Satellite Forms.
 I'm using the codebase to copy it into Pocket PC using the PDB file format.
 Most of my VFP sync code will be reused, it shouldn't be to difficult.

   

That's great.  Hope you'll write about it someday and share it with the 
community!

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Re: [NF] Detect ActiveSync and Hotsync

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Madigan
Well just search for the executable.  There is also a
registry setting for starting on bootup.  You could
also check to see if the task is running.



--- MB Software Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tracy Pearson wrote:
  I'm starting a vertical market project which is to
 work on either PalmOS or
  the PocketPC.
 
  Is there a way to detect, programmatically, if
 ActiveSync and HotSync is
  installed?

 
 Sorry Tracey, no answer to your question, but I must
 say that I'm 
 excited for you, assuming VFP is in the mix
 somewhere in that PocketPC 
 or PalmOS app!  I've heard recently that it's very
 possible to get this 
 to happen.  (Heard it either here or on VFUG, iirc.)
 
 -- 
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 MB Software Solutions, LLC
 http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
 http://fabmate.com
 Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software
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RE: Printing a mailing address on a report mailer

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Madigan
It shouldn't be hard at all,f your reports are always
going to be one page.  Just set up one page as a title
page, and the report as page two.  The duplex feature
on the printer should take care of the rest.



--- Rick Quilhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just set up Page 2 as the image you want.
 You might have to play with placement, if you are
 using windowed
 envelopes.
 
 Rick Q
 
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 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 13:05
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 Subject: Printing a mailing address on a report
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 I foresee a one-page report as a deliverable for a
 client that will be 
 mailed.  I'd like to image the mailing information
 on the backside 
 (using a 2-sided duplex capable printer).  Has
 anyone ever done this, 
 and is there any trick to it?
 
 App will be programmed in VFP9 SP1, running on Win
 XP Pro machines.
 
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[NF] Internet Explorer Unsafe for 284 Days in 2006

2007-01-08 Thread Ted Roche
For a total 284 days in 2006 (or more than nine months out of the
year), exploit code for known, unpatched critical flaws in pre-IE7
versions of the browser was publicly available on the Internet.
Likewise, there were at least 98 days last year in which no software
fixes from Microsoft were available to fix IE flaws that criminals
were actively using to steal personal and financial data from users.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/01/internet_explorer_unsafe_for_2.html?nav=rss_blog

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfuy4y

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Re: [OT] beware of catalysts to control the internet

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
William Sanders / EFG wrote:
 Heya Bill -
 
 I only have 2 observations :
 
 1.  The government of Singapore tracks everything coming and going through
 any internet connection.  It's part of their anti-porn, anti-terrorist
 tracking.  If the US wanted to replicate the process, the 'foundation' of
 'what to do and how' is already there, and I'm certain the details of
 'how' could be shared to the proper US officials.
 
 2.  I swear the Patriot Act and it's recent amendments already provide for
 the type of internet tracking you are talking about.  There are filters
 that instantly track against a list of tag words, for web sites and email.
 

That's a really easy thing to subvert. Just get enough people willing to
put some of those tag words in the signature of all their mails. You
know, too much info equals none at all.

 and one comment:
 
 The sites you are talking about are not based in the USA, so the US
 government won't be able to shut them down.  On the other hand, who is
 tracking the traffic at the sites other than the site owner and it's ISP?
 
 Have a wonderful Monday!  Regards [Bill]



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Re: [OT] Come the Revolution

2007-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Monday 08 January 2007 05:05, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 snip
 What facts? I said it wasn't settled. All the gold in Iraq would fit in
 one truck, a small one at that. And yes, I do read minds. Yours is blank.
 Hahaha! Yeah, my mind is blank. But I managed to get you out of your
 character. Now you sound a lot like Mike.
 
 Hi Ricardo!
 
 You haven't been around long enough to know what my character is capable of. 
 Actually, sometimes Mike sounds like me.
Mm... Nahhh! You have not enough spine.



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{NF} MS FireFox: two great ideas that work great together!

2007-01-08 Thread Ted Roche
http://www.msfirefox.com/

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Re: [NF] MS FireFox: two great ideas that work great together!

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

 http://www.msfirefox.com/

Blast from the past!  http://leafe.com/archives/showMsg/330390

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RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Stephen the Cook
Man-wai CHANG  wrote:
 It's really a pig in both speed an size... is there trick to speed it
 up? 
 
 (what the hell is it+.Net doing in the background??)

What is slow?  

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[OT] Look familiar?

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmda/2007/tmmda070108.gif


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Re: [NF] MS FireFox: two great ideas that work great together!

2007-01-08 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/8/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Blast from the past!  http://leafe.com/archives/showMsg/330390

Yeah, never mind.


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[ot] BIG TEN Football

2007-01-08 Thread Stephen Russell
#1 in what leauge?  First Michigan got spanked and now Ohio.  

What a JOKE!

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RE: [NF] New Dabo Screencast, Part 2

2007-01-08 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions  wrote:
 Stephen the Cook wrote:
 Ed Leafe  wrote:
 
 On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:42 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:
 
 
 Well, I wouldn't say it so brashly, but I've felt that way somewhat
 about the VFP DE for some time, as I thought it tied you into a VFP
 backend pretty much.  Using a different approach (like n-tier in my
 case) allows me much more flexibility, imo.
 
 Well, sure; it doesn't make sense to lock in your design to one
 thing. You can define a connection to MySQL, and if later you want
 to change to an MS SQL Server backend, all you have to do is update
 the connection information, and everything will still work.
 
 
 You still need to adjust code per backend for joins, date math and
 such. Oracle / DB2 / MySQL are all different in these cases.
 
 
 Yes, but the variations are not great.  In the open source n-tier
 project I posted on Ed's OpenTech forum, I used a simple DBF that
 listed the default SQL, specific backend SQL (for overriding the
 default SQL), primary key, candidate keys, updatable fields, etc. and
 that design was pretty easy, imo.  Sure, there are subtle
 differences, but no show stoppers or big deals, imo. 

Date math is the biggest problem I have faced.  I currently work with M$,
Oracle and DB2 databases and each has their own special way.  Joins are much
easier.  


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RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Rick Schummer
I don't think he was referring to SQL Server 2005. I believe he is referring to 
Management Studio
for SQL Server *Express* is dog slow, even on latest and greatest hardware. It 
is a pig and should
be considered an embarrassment to the SQL Server team.


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Cook
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 09:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

Stephen the Cook  wrote:
 Man-wai CHANG  wrote:
 It's really a pig in both speed an size... is there trick to speed it 
 up?
 
 (what the hell is it+.Net doing in the background??)
 
 What is slow?

I have found that heavy batch operations that would generate 40,000 
transactions a run would run
faster in 2005 then 2000.  That would be a batch process that took 3 hours to 
run went down to 2.25
running the same .net code base just a different sever instance for 2005 
instead of 2000.
(Same machine)

Granularity became much better so your security is much tighter.  Encryption of 
a column is real
cool also.

So what wasn't running fast anyway?




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RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Stephen the Cook
Rick Schummer  wrote:
 I don't think he was referring to SQL Server 2005. I believe he is
 referring to Management Studio for SQL Server *Express* is dog slow,
 even on latest and greatest hardware. It is a pig and should be
 considered an embarrassment to the SQL Server team.   

Ok, what is slow?  The time to start it up, or the time to change db's or
servers and have all those objects in the IDE?

Lately I work with SQL2000 all the time.  

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Re: [ot] BIG TEN Football [OT]

2007-01-08 Thread Eugene Vital
Stephen Russell wrote:
 #1 in what leauge?  First Michigan got spanked and now Ohio.  

 What a JOKE!

   
I thought OFF TOPIC messages were supposed to be marked as [OT]  NOT
[ot]  - guess I need another rule


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Re: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Eugene Vital
Stephen the Cook wrote:
 Rick Schummer  wrote:
   
 I don't think he was referring to SQL Server 2005. I believe he is
 referring to Management Studio for SQL Server *Express* is dog slow,
 even on latest and greatest hardware. It is a pig and should be
 considered an embarrassment to the SQL Server team.   
 

 Ok, what is slow?  The time to start it up, or the time to change db's or
 servers and have all those objects in the IDE?

 Lately I work with SQL2000 all the time.  

   
Lately I work with PostgreSQL all the time - and it is NEVER slow :)


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RE: [NF] SQL Server Management Studio Express

2007-01-08 Thread Rick Schummer
Ok, what is slow?  The time to start it up, or the time to change db's or 
servers and have all
those objects in the IDE?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.  (attempting my best to not sound sarcastic, but it is all 
slow)

I want to reiterate, I am referring to the SQL Express version, not the regular 
version. I have no
idea if they are the same or different code bases and have not used the one 
that comes with the
standard, developer, or enterprise edition of SQL Server 2005. My experience is 
on one machine that
is a couple of years old with *only* 512MB RAM. I have seen it demoed by 
presenters and it appeared
slow on their machines as well. Hopefully it is addressed in the service packs.


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RE: [OT] beware of catalysts to control the internet

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Arnold

 Heya Bill -
 
 I only have 2 observations :
 
 1.  The government of Singapore tracks everything coming and 
 going through any internet connection.  It's part of their 
 anti-porn, anti-terrorist tracking.  If the US wanted to 
 replicate the process, the 'foundation' of 'what to do and 
 how' is already there, and I'm certain the details of 'how' 
 could be shared to the proper US officials.


And China, where US companies are helping the Chinese establish controls
over the net. Anything for money ...

 
 2.  I swear the Patriot Act and it's recent amendments 
 already provide for the type of internet tracking you are 
 talking about.  There are filters that instantly track 
 against a list of tag words, for web sites and email.


Let me emphasize: Step # 1: you are positively identified to gain
access, email or otherwise, and  Step # 2: everything you do, email or
otherwise, is stashed in the database for 'later'. That database could
be in a mountain in Colorado, or distributed around the world, it just
has to be viewable as a whole - as we well know.

Then, when 'later' comes, and you've pissed off someone with The Power
(access), a look-see through the heap should come up with something that
can be worked with to deal with you.

It's the combination of positive ID's and stashing everything that puts
this mechanic in place. In other words, the greatest invention in all of
history gets to be turned inside out into the most repressive tool ever
invented.

 
 and one comment:
 
 The sites you are talking about are not based in the USA, so 
 the US government won't be able to shut them down.  On the 
 other hand, who is tracking the traffic at the sites other 
 than the site owner and it's ISP?


The only way I can think of to keep this monster from growing is
anonymous access, where traffic cannot be related back to individuals. 

This is a far more ominous situation then terrorism for free people,
but it's been buried while we're caught up in the frenzy of terrorist
fever, with paranoid warmongers fanning and stoking the fires to insure
a never-ending supply of boggeymen to keep our attention fixed on the
problem they created.

In the end, this is going to boil down to whether the majority of quiet
people who love will prevail, or whether that station will belong to
those not so disposed. Our track record isn't very encouraging, you may
have noticed.

 
 Have a wonderful Monday!  Regards [Bill]

Aye, you also!


Bill


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