RE: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Dave Crozier
Matt,
He additions certainly add that final gloss to Doug's original work. Well
recommended to everyone.

Dave Crozier


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Sent: 11 November 2008 05:38
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Subject: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

 

Just Released... Check out ver 2.0 of the awesome Property and Method Editor
tool on VFPx.

 
http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Property%20and%20Method%2
0Replacement
http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Property%20and%20Method%20
Replacement

(link includes a helpful screenshot)



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[OT] Tim Robins went to the wrong polling place

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
He throws a hissy fit and it turns out he was in the wrong place.  

Typical Hollywood Liberal Jerk.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/11/10/2008-11-10_voter_glitch_actor_tim_robbins_went_to_w.html

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[OT] - Almost right..

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Buckland
No but he will be on the 20th January 2009 whether you like it or not.

Past 4 years you've said to respect GWB as president, I hope you'll do
the same for Barack..



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Re: [OT] - Almost right..

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
I'll give him as much respect as you gave Bush. LOL

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 No but he will be on the 20th January 2009 whether you like
 it or not.
 
 Past 4 years you've said to respect GWB as president, I
 hope you'll do
 the same for Barack..
 
 
 
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 Sent: 11 November 2008 08:03
 
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RE: [OT] - Almost right..

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Buckland
I can't believe you'd be that gracious Michael..

You're up early aren't you... it's 11:15 here so is it 4:15 am there?


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I'll give him as much respect as you gave Bush. LOL

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 No but he will be on the 20th January 2009 whether you like
 it or not.
 
 Past 4 years you've said to respect GWB as president, I
 hope you'll do
 the same for Barack..
 
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: 11 November 2008 08:03
 
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Re: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Ajit Abraham
Hi Kevin,


Kevin Cully wrote:
 Hey Matt,
 
 I may be dense but what exactly do I do to install this? 

1. In VFP, select the Solution Samples pane of the Task Pane Manager, 
expand the New in Visual FoxPro 9.0 heading, and choose the FoxCode Menu 
Scripts sample. In the dialog that appears, click the Enable Script and 
Install New Properties Dialog Sample buttons to enable the replacement 
dialog.

2. set defa to the directory where you have unzipped the NewProperty zip.

3. DO NewPropertyDialog.APP

4. DO NewEditPropertyDialog.APP

Sincerely,

_Ajit Abraham



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RE: Les Pinter site

2008-11-11 Thread Dave Crozier
Andrew,
I get the same thing. Google says:

Of the 74 pages that we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 52
page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed
without user consent. The last time that Google visited this site was on
2008-11-07, and the last time that suspicious content was found on this site
was on 2008-11-07.

I can't think that Les would know that this is happening and I don't think
it is because of the downloads available.

I've just dropped him an email to make him aware. I wonder what you do or
can do when this happens.

Dave Crozier


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Subject: Les Pinter site

Hi

Just thought I would have a look at Les' site but got a Google warning
http://lespinter.com/PC/ShowArticles.aspx?Topic=VFP

Anybody else get this?
-- 
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Re: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

2008-11-11 Thread Nicholas Geti
Thank you for the clarification.


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Subject: Re: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software


 Whoops, I should have said: I'm running VMware Workstation 5.5.8
 build-108000.

 Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
 Nicholas Geti wrote:

 Which VMware product are you using? I found a dozen or so products but 
 am
 not sure which one I should buy. I think it is VMworkstation for $189.00



 I'm running VMware 5.5.8 build-108000.  I didn't upgrade to the version
 6 build; because, I didn't want to switch from XP Pro to Vista.  The
 version 5 of VMware is still being support with updates from time to
 time.  I will probably go to the verison 6 of VMware, but not before I
 have  to, and not because of Vista.

 Regards,

 LelandJ



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 I am running Window XP Pro under VMware which is hosted in Fedora 8, 
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 it works very well.



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Re: [OT] Bailout everyone but the taxpayers

2008-11-11 Thread Nicholas Geti
- Original Message - 
From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: [OT] Bailout everyone but the taxpayers


 Hi Everybody!

 http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/124778/Bailout-Central%3A-AIG-Comes-Back-for-More%2C-Big-Three-on-Deck

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/3kxsjd
 -- 
 Regards,

 Pete

I think the better plan is to spend money on our infrastructure. 
Eisenhower's administration started the Interstate Highway system which was 
designed to last 30 years. We are now beyond that time limit and should 
start rebuilding. The highway system was an important boon to the U.S. 
economy a we cannot let it deteriorate any longer.

The Highway Fund was set up as a separate account to pay for infrastructure 
when the 30 years expired. It was to be funded by a gasoline tax. 
Unfortunately it is being gutted by Congress. It is time to put the money 
back in and provide long term jobs and benefits not give loans to bail out 
the crooks.




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RE: [OT] - Almost right..

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Not up early, up late. I do a lot of work in the wee hours.

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] - Almost right..
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 4:15 AM
 I can't believe you'd be that gracious Michael..
 
 You're up early aren't you... it's 11:15 here
 so is it 4:15 am there?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: 11 November 2008 09:03
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] - Almost right..
 
 I'll give him as much respect as you gave Bush. LOL
 
 * 
 Barack Obama is not My President
 
 http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
 
 
 --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Adam Buckland
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [OT] - Almost right..
  To: ProFox Email List
 profox@leafe.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:57 AM
  No but he will be on the 20th January 2009 whether you
 like
  it or not.
  
  Past 4 years you've said to respect GWB as
 president, I
  hope you'll do
  the same for Barack..
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Michael Madigan
  Sent: 11 November 2008 08:03
  
  Barack Obama is not My President
  
  
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Re: [OT] Bailout everyone but the taxpayers

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
That would create a lot of jobs.  A lot will be wasted, but what else is new.

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 10:51 AM
 - Original Message - 
 From: Pete Theisen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:51 PM
 Subject: [OT] Bailout everyone but the taxpayers
 
 
  Hi Everybody!
 
 
 http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/124778/Bailout-Central%3A-AIG-Comes-Back-for-More%2C-Big-Three-on-Deck
 
  or
 
  http://tinyurl.com/3kxsjd
  -- 
  Regards,
 
  Pete
 
 I think the better plan is to spend money on our
 infrastructure. 
 Eisenhower's administration started the Interstate
 Highway system which was 
 designed to last 30 years. We are now beyond that time
 limit and should 
 start rebuilding. The highway system was an important boon
 to the U.S. 
 economy a we cannot let it deteriorate any longer.
 
 The Highway Fund was set up as a separate account to pay
 for infrastructure 
 when the 30 years expired. It was to be funded by a
 gasoline tax. 
 Unfortunately it is being gutted by Congress. It is time to
 put the money 
 back in and provide long term jobs and benefits not give
 loans to bail out 
 the crooks.
 
 
 
 
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[OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Down almost 1000 Points since election day.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI

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[OT] Myth of balanced reporting.

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

Nobody here but us unbiased reporters, LOL.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/11/09/reuters-laugher-media-bias-largely-unseen-presidential-race

or

http://tinyurl.com/5u6ytc
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RE: Les Pinter site

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Are you running some sort of google link checker?


 


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Les Pinter site
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 10:00 AM
 Andrew,
 I get the same thing. Google says:
 
 Of the 74 pages that we tested on the site over the
 past 90 days, 52
 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and
 installed
 without user consent. The last time that Google visited
 this site was on
 2008-11-07, and the last time that suspicious content was
 found on this site
 was on 2008-11-07.
 
 I can't think that Les would know that this is
 happening and I don't think
 it is because of the downloads available.
 
 I've just dropped him an email to make him aware. I
 wonder what you do or
 can do when this happens.
 
 Dave Crozier
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Andrew Stirling
 Sent: 11 November 2008 14:50
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Les Pinter site
 
 Hi
 
 Just thought I would have a look at Les' site but got a
 Google warning
 http://lespinter.com/PC/ShowArticles.aspx?Topic=VFP
 
 Anybody else get this?
 -- 
 Andrew Stirling
 01250 874580
 http://www.calcpay.co.uk
 HMRC Accredited UK payroll program
 
 
 
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[OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

Good luck.

http://www.wowowow.com/post/introducing-sheconomics-liz-peek-130420?ap=139811

Someone, for heaven’s sake, needs to ride herd on these donkeys on Wall 
Street and in Washington and get business back on track. You can’t weigh 
in if you don’t know what’s going on.

Well, yeah. It has always been rigged to favor insiders. How can any 
normal person, he or she, get any kind of a break in such an 
environment? Good question, and good luck on any answer.
-- 
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Re: index column Unique or empty

2008-11-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Ajoy Khaund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave Thanks and also to Maurice.

 This field is not a very important field. In a employee table permanent
 workers have a Provident Fund Number which the temporary guys don't have.
 Now I have to have check when saving the record to confirm the number does
 not exist.

 Where would you put a check normally.
--

I would validate that # before I did the row insert.  Is there a high
velocity on inserts to this table?  If so create a trigger for insert
to gen it at insert.
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RE: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Rick Schummer
 Sometimes as programmers we get so close to an application that we can't 
 think like beginners
anymore.  Beginners like me! ;)

I was just talking to my developer this morning about being a beginner at 
something and finding
resources. With respect to today's technologies and authors willing to publish, 
most are talking at
levels not targeting the newbie market. Poor planning on their part.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over 14,000, before 
it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the DJ IA go to 
7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made up of 30 blue 
chip corporate stocks, (eg .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its previous 
highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do better and 
other worse.

All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is actually sold, so 
I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as possible while 
the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can right now, while 
stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can splurge and enjoy 
some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor.  Right now the 
DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over the next 10 
to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
 Down almost 1000 Points since election day.

 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI

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Re: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Pete Theisen wrote:
 Hi Everybody!

 Good luck.

 http://www.wowowow.com/post/introducing-sheconomics-liz-peek-130420?ap=139811

 Someone, for heaven’s sake, needs to ride herd on these donkeys on Wall 
 Street and in Washington and get business back on track. You can’t weigh 
 in if you don’t know what’s going on.

 Well, yeah. It has always been rigged to favor insiders. How can any 
 normal person, he or she, get any kind of a break in such an 
 environment? Good question, and good luck on any answer.
   

If you're going to play the market, make it your profession and be 
present on the stock exchange floor to do your trading.  If you going to 
invest in the stock market, be in it for the long term, buy and hold on 
to the good stuff, and diversify your portfolio.

Regards,

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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Not if Obama is in power

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 1:35 PM
 The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over
 14,000, before 
 it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see
 the DJ IA go to 
 7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made
 up of 30 blue 
 chip corporate stocks, (eg
 .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
 guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its
 previous 
 highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do
 better and 
 other worse.
 
 All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is
 actually sold, so 
 I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as
 possible while 
 the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can
 right now, while 
 stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can
 splurge and enjoy 
 some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor. 
 Right now the 
 DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over
 the next 10 
 to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.
 
 Regards,
 
 LelandJ
 
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Down almost 1000 Points since election day.
 
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI
 
  * 
  Barack Obama is not My President
 
  http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
 
 
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Re: [OT] McCain and Obama

2008-11-11 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
 Hi Garrett!

 He is the President- elect. He can order the production of the original.

No. He is the President-elect. He is not the dictator-elect. After 8
years of the Decider, I can understand your confusion, except that
there never should have been that confusion in the first place.


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Re: [OT] McCain and Obama

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Garrett Fitzgerald wrote:
 Hi Garrett!

 He is the President- elect. He can order the production of the original.
 
 No. He is the President-elect. He is not the dictator-elect. After 8
 years of the Decider, I can understand your confusion, except that
 there never should have been that confusion in the first place.

Hi Garrett!

I realize that a number of people think Bush was a dictator, 
conveniently forgetting Filthy Bill's record in that department. 
However, keep your eye on O-boy. O-boy will out-dictate Hitler, Mao and 
Stalin.
-- 
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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Larry Miller
That's conventional wisdom... which is almost always wrong.  Sorry to say.

When the foreigners stop buying our paper, our addiction to deficit spending 
will have to come to an end... unless we just print money.  If we do that, all 
we'll get is inflation and even if the DOW hits 50,000, the money made will not 
represent much of an increase.

Some certificates look interesting, maybe you can paper your walls with them.

Larry Miller


- Original Message -
From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:59 + (UTC)
Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over 14,000, before 
it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the DJ IA go to 
7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made up of 30 blue 
chip corporate stocks, (eg .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its previous 
highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do better and 
other worse.

All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is actually sold, so 
I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as possible while 
the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can right now, while 
stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can splurge and enjoy 
some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor.  Right now the 
DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over the next 10 
to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
 Down almost 1000 Points since election day.

 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI

 * 
 Barack Obama is not My President

 http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Like GM. LOL

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 3:26 PM
 That's conventional wisdom... which is almost always
 wrong.  Sorry to say.
 
 When the foreigners stop buying our paper, our addiction to
 deficit spending will have to come to an end... unless we
 just print money.  If we do that, all we'll get is
 inflation and even if the DOW hits 50,000, the money made
 will not represent much of an increase.
 
 Some certificates look interesting, maybe you can paper
 your walls with them.
 
 Larry Miller
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:59 + (UTC)
 Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide
 
 The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over
 14,000, before 
 it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see
 the DJ IA go to 
 7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made
 up of 30 blue 
 chip corporate stocks, (eg
 .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
 guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its
 previous 
 highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do
 better and 
 other worse.
 
 All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is
 actually sold, so 
 I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as
 possible while 
 the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can
 right now, while 
 stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can
 splurge and enjoy 
 some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor. 
 Right now the 
 DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over
 the next 10 
 to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.
 
 Regards,
 
 LelandJ
 
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Down almost 1000 Points since election day.
 
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI
 
  * 
  Barack Obama is not My President
 
  http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
 
 
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Re: [OT] Bailout everyone but the taxpayers

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Nicholas Geti wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/3kxsjd

 I think the better plan is to spend money on our infrastructure. 
 Eisenhower's administration started the Interstate Highway system which was 
 designed to last 30 years. We are now beyond that time limit and should 
 start rebuilding. The highway system was an important boon to the U.S. 
 economy a we cannot let it deteriorate any longer.
 
 The Highway Fund was set up as a separate account to pay for infrastructure 
 when the 30 years expired. It was to be funded by a gasoline tax. 
 Unfortunately it is being gutted by Congress. It is time to put the money 
 back in and provide long term jobs and benefits not give loans to bail out 
 the crooks.

Hi Micholas!

Loans to crooks have a way of becoming grants. The last recovery was 
only for the rich, no one else. And the infrastructure maintenance? They 
ask for community volunteers to even pick up the litter!
-- 
Regards,

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Les Pinter site

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Stirling
Hi

Just thought I would have a look at Les' site but got a Google warning
http://lespinter.com/PC/ShowArticles.aspx?Topic=VFP

Anybody else get this?
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RE: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Rick Schummer
Dave,

And don't forget Marcia Akins who originally did the Edit Property and Method 
replacement dialog
with some help from Doug.

Rick
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Re: OLEDB VFP in Visual Studio

2008-11-11 Thread geoff
I'm using that version. Coul you indulge me and go thru the steps one 
at a time for doing this? I'm new to oledb and VS2008 and the chances 
I am doing something wrong/stupid is high!

Thanks

Geoff

At 08:47 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
I do this all the time with VS2008 - make sure you are using the VFP9
SP2 version of the OLEDB drivers.
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[NF] Windows 7 task manager showing CPU requirements

2008-11-11 Thread Alan Bourke
http://bink.nu/photos/news_article_images/images/43194/original.aspx
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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
The current crises seem to be a result of bank and insurance company 
exposure from derivative risk.  The first link below goes into an 
explanation of derivatives.  The seconds link is a little outdated, but 
give some sence of the enormity of the derivative exposure by some of 
America's major banks; the risk to insurance companies like AIG 
excluded.  The third link below is titled Derivatives  The Stock 
Market: What You Need to Know.  The forth link has to do with Credit 
Default Swaps, a kind of derivate in which the major banks and some 
insurance companies had far too great an exposure, where they were 
writing contract that paid off in the event of loan defaults like mortgages.

Essentially a derivative is a bet, just like you might make in Las 
Vegas, and some banks making markets in these kinds of bets lost big time.

#
Definition:  Derivative: A financial contract whose value is derived 
from the performance of assets, interest rates, currency exchange rates, 
or indexes. Derivative transactions include a wide assortment of 
financial contracts including structured debt obligations and deposits, 
swaps, futures, options, caps, floors, collars, forwards and various 
combinations thereof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_(finance)

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_00/ci091500.html

http://www.relfe.com/derivatives.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap

#--

Regards,

LelandJ


Larry Miller wrote:
 That's conventional wisdom... which is almost always wrong.  Sorry to say.

 When the foreigners stop buying our paper, our addiction to deficit spending 
 will have to come to an end... unless we just print money.  If we do that, 
 all we'll get is inflation and even if the DOW hits 50,000, the money made 
 will not represent much of an increase.

 Some certificates look interesting, maybe you can paper your walls with them.

 Larry Miller


 - Original Message -
 From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:59 + (UTC)
 Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

 The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over 14,000, before 
 it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the DJ IA go to 
 7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made up of 30 blue 
 chip corporate stocks, (eg .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
 guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its previous 
 highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do better and 
 other worse.

 All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is actually sold, so 
 I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as possible while 
 the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can right now, while 
 stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can splurge and enjoy 
 some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor.  Right now the 
 DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over the next 10 
 to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.

 Regards,

 LelandJ

 Michael Madigan wrote:
   
 Down almost 1000 Points since election day.

 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI

 * 
 Barack Obama is not My President

 http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


 
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RE: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
When I was a kid in college, I made $9000.00 trading stock one year.  Then 
october 1987 came and completely wiped me out.  I was trading covered calls.  I 
owned deep in-the-money calls and wrote out-of-the-money calls against them.  
That was great until the crash and all my in-the-money calls turned worthless 
overnight.

Day trading is easier now if you allow a computer to make your decisions and 
keep your emotions out of it, but I would estimate that 99% of day traders lose 
money.

I have never invested in the stock market since 1987 except for my 401k which I 
kept in very conservative mutual funds.

I would estimate 99% of horse players lose money too.

Unless you have inside information on either, you're probably a loser.


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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [OT] SHEconomics
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 4:19 PM
 Lee,
 
  If you're going to play the market, make it your
 profession and be 
  present on the stock exchange floor to do your
 trading.
 
 My first ex-husband, the one I married at 17, is currently
 a day trader
 working from his house. He says he's making money at
 it, but not as much as
 in real estate. The market is dead where he lives, though,
 so he turned to
 shorting stocks to keep the bills paid.
 
 There are people making money on trading, but I don't
 really see it as a
 stable career path... Then again, who am I to talk? I have
 had plenty of ups
 and downs over the last few years.
 
 Kristyne McDaniel
 http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
 http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
 http://www.mcstyles.com/
  
 Whether you think you can, or you think you can't
 you are right.
  -- Henry Ford
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 Lee,

   
 If you're going to play the market, make it your profession and be 
 present on the stock exchange floor to do your trading.
 

 My first ex-husband, the one I married at 17, is currently a day trader
 working from his house. He says he's making money at it, but not as much as
 in real estate. The market is dead where he lives, though, so he turned to
 shorting stocks to keep the bills paid.
   

It seems like since the beginning of this year would have been a great 
time to sell stocks short, but then you have to know when to cover your 
bets.  The market has been very volatile with big daily ups and downs, 
so I'm sure the day traders are making lots of money jumping into the 
market as soon a they have some sense of the market's direction for the 
day, and then basically driving the market in that direction as everyone 
jumps in.

 There are people making money on trading, but I don't really see it as a
 stable career path... Then again, who am I to talk? I have had plenty of ups
 and downs over the last few years.
   

I think going long term with quality companies and a diverse portfolio 
is the way to go, unless you have a good broker and want to devote the 
time and take the risk to play the market.

Regards,

LelandJ


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 http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
 http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
 http://www.mcstyles.com/
  
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Re: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Kevin Cully
Thanks Rick and Ajit,

I'm a subscriber of FoxRockX!  I just thought it'd be helpful to have a
README.TXT in the zip and a little blurb on the CodePlex page.

Sometimes as programmers we get so close to an application that we can't
think like beginners anymore.  Beginners like me! ;)

I've got it installed and it looks great.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


Rick Schummer wrote:
 Kevin,
 
 I may be dense but what exactly do I do to install this?
 
 There are two APP files. Run each APP file which registers the MenuHit 
 records in FoxCode. That is
 all. Once you bring up the dialogs from the VFP IDE menu to add new property 
 or method, or edit
 property/method you should see the new VFPX dialogs.
 
 I documented the installation and how this works in the May issue of FoxRockX 
 if you have it.
 
 I agree, the ZIP file should have some instructions as well as the CodePlex 
 project pages.
 
 Rick
 White Light Computing, Inc.
 
 www.whitelightcomputing.com
 www.swfox.net
 www.rickschummer.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Rick Schummer
Kevin,

 I may be dense but what exactly do I do to install this?

There are two APP files. Run each APP file which registers the MenuHit records 
in FoxCode. That is
all. Once you bring up the dialogs from the VFP IDE menu to add new property or 
method, or edit
property/method you should see the new VFPX dialogs.

I documented the installation and how this works in the May issue of FoxRockX 
if you have it.

I agree, the ZIP file should have some instructions as well as the CodePlex 
project pages.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com




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[OT] Gays attack elderly lady

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Welcome to the Obama Nation.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/11/elderly_christi.html#comments

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Re: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote:

 I would estimate 99% of horse players lose money too.
 
 Unless you have inside information on either, you're probably a loser.

Hi Michael!

Loser? How about a little Frank Loesser?

http://www.music-free-download.net/mp3/Frank-Sinatra/Download_Fugue-For-Tinhorns--_mp3_751868.html
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RE: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan,

 I have never invested in the stock market since 1987 except 
 for my 401k which I kept in very conservative mutual funds.

I have been invested in the stock market on and off. Right now I have
nothing in the markets, but we do have a college fund for the grandkids.
That fund is invested very conservatively and has actually increased in
value as the market crashed.

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Re: OLEDB VFP in Visual Studio

2008-11-11 Thread Alan Bourke

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:41:35 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm using that version. Coul you indulge me and go thru the steps one 
 at a time for doing this? I'm new to oledb and VS2008 and the chances 
 I am doing something wrong/stupid is high!
 


Well, in Server Explorer right click on Data Connections and select 'Add
Connection'.

In the Add Connection dialog, ensure the Data Source is '.NET Framework
Provider For OLE DB'.

In the 'OLEDB Provider' dropdown below that, select 'Microsoft OLE DB
Provider for Visual FoxPro'

In the 'Server Or File Name' textbox enter the full path to your DBC
(preferred) or free table.

Click 'Test Connection' and make sure all is tickety boo.

Click 'OK' and it will be added to Server Explorer. You can then access
all the tables, views and SPs if it's a DBC.

If you're crashing doing that then there's something wrong at an OS
level I would imagine.
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Re: OLEDB VFP in Visual Studio

2008-11-11 Thread Alan Bourke

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:41:35 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm using that version. Coul you indulge me and go thru the steps one 
 at a time for doing this? I'm new to oledb and VS2008 and the chances 
 I am doing something wrong/stupid is high!
 


Well, in Server Explorer right click on Data Connections and select 'Add
Connection'.

In the Add Connection dialog, ensure the Data Source is '.NET Framework
Provider For OLE DB'.

In the 'OLEDB Provider' dropdown below that, select 'Microsoft OLE DB
Provider for Visual FoxPro'

In the 'Server Or File Name' textbox enter the full path to your DBC
(preferred) or free table.

Click 'Test Connection' and make sure all is tickety boo.

Click 'OK' and it will be added to Server Explorer. You can then access
all the tables, views and SPs if it's a DBC.

If you're crashing doing that then there's something wrong at an OS
level I would imagine.
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RE: [OT] SHEconomics

2008-11-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Lee,

 I think going long term with quality companies and a
 diverse portfolio is the way to go, unless you have a
 good broker and want to devote the time and take the
 risk to play the market.

I have nothing in the stock market at present, and our grandkids college
fund has been doing well enough through all of this mess.

My only investments over my entire life have been in companies I am very
familiar with, and mutual funds that were invested in areas I was
comfortable with. I never tried to make a fast buck from a stock. It seems
insane to me to even try that.

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Re: [OT] Gays attack elderly lady

2008-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote:
 Welcome to the Obama Nation.
 
 http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/11/elderly_christi.html#comments

Hi Michael!

The Bible distinguishes between men who lie with mankind as with a 
woman and even the women (who) have given themselves to unnatural 
usage. The former are to be killed, the latter are merely annoying.

Since we do have separation of Church and state we should base our 
response to these people only on civil grounds. Male on male sex is 
medically dangerous. Where their dangerous activities impact the larger 
society, strict response is not only permissible, but mandatory.

All AIDS infected persons must be under a strict quarantine for the rest 
of their lives. We have already seen what self-regulation does, nothing. 
Those not AIDS infected could have civil unions as long as they stay 
away from kids and stop trying to call their outrageous behavior marriage.
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Re: OLEDB VFP in Visual Studio

2008-11-11 Thread Alan Bourke
I do this all the time with VS2008 - make sure you are using the VFP9
SP2 version of the OLEDB drivers.
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Re: OLEDB VFP in Visual Studio

2008-11-11 Thread geoff
Thanks for that but unfortunately that is what I am doing:( I get a 
'system.enterpriseservices.wrapper.dll' is missing message. There is 
one in the .net 2.0 folder but not in 3.0 or 3.5.  I have no idea if 
that is correct or not. It sure is annoying. any ideas?

Geoff

At 08:40 AM 12/11/2008, you wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:41:35 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  I'm using that version. Coul you indulge me and go thru the steps one
  at a time for doing this? I'm new to oledb and VS2008 and the chances
  I am doing something wrong/stupid is high!
 
 

Well, in Server Explorer right click on Data Connections and select 'Add
Connection'.

In the Add Connection dialog, ensure the Data Source is '.NET Framework
Provider For OLE DB'.

In the 'OLEDB Provider' dropdown below that, select 'Microsoft OLE DB
Provider for Visual FoxPro'

In the 'Server Or File Name' textbox enter the full path to your DBC
(preferred) or free table.

Click 'Test Connection' and make sure all is tickety boo.

Click 'OK' and it will be added to Server Explorer. You can then access
all the tables, views and SPs if it's a DBC.

If you're crashing doing that then there's something wrong at an OS
level I would imagine.
--
   Alan Bourke
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Property and Method Editor ver 2.0...

2008-11-11 Thread Kevin Cully
Hey Matt,

I may be dense but what exactly do I do to install this?  I see the
Install.prg but it doesn't have any comments.  There's no readme.txt or
anything.  The VFPx page on CodePlex doesn't have anything.

Thanks,
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


Matt Slay wrote:
  
 
 Just Released... Check out ver 2.0 of the awesome Property and Method Editor
 tool on VFPx.
 
  
 http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Property%20and%20Method%2
 0Replacement
 http://www.codeplex.com/VFPX/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Property%20and%20Method%20
 Replacement
 
 (link includes a helpful screenshot)
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

2008-11-11 Thread Larry Miller
That's one of the factors, but hardly the only one.  Aint greed a wonderful 
thing!

Larry Miller


- Original Message -
From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:15:54 + (UTC)
Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

The current crises seem to be a result of bank and insurance company 
exposure from derivative risk.  The first link below goes into an 
explanation of derivatives.  The seconds link is a little outdated, but 
give some sence of the enormity of the derivative exposure by some of 
America's major banks; the risk to insurance companies like AIG 
excluded.  The third link below is titled Derivatives  The Stock 
Market: What You Need to Know.  The forth link has to do with Credit 
Default Swaps, a kind of derivate in which the major banks and some 
insurance companies had far too great an exposure, where they were 
writing contract that paid off in the event of loan defaults like mortgages.

Essentially a derivative is a bet, just like you might make in Las 
Vegas, and some banks making markets in these kinds of bets lost big time.

#
Definition:  Derivative: A financial contract whose value is derived 
from the performance of assets, interest rates, currency exchange rates, 
or indexes. Derivative transactions include a wide assortment of 
financial contracts including structured debt obligations and deposits, 
swaps, futures, options, caps, floors, collars, forwards and various 
combinations thereof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_(finance)

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_00/ci091500.html

http://www.relfe.com/derivatives.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap

#--

Regards,

LelandJ


Larry Miller wrote:
 That's conventional wisdom... which is almost always wrong.  Sorry to say.

 When the foreigners stop buying our paper, our addiction to deficit spending 
 will have to come to an end... unless we just print money.  If we do that, 
 all we'll get is inflation and even if the DOW hits 50,000, the money made 
 will not represent much of an increase.

 Some certificates look interesting, maybe you can paper your walls with them.

 Larry Miller


 - Original Message -
 From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA 
 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:35:59 + (UTC)
 Subject: Re: [OT] Dow Jones Continues Obama Slide

 The stock market topped out with the DJ IA a little over 14,000, before 
 it started its slide.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the DJ IA go to 
 7,000, losing half its previous highs.  The DJ IA is made up of 30 blue 
 chip corporate stocks, (eg .http://nyjobsource.com/djia.html ).   I'm 
 guessing the average portfolio will likewise lose half its previous 
 highs, before we hit bottom, but some portfolios will do better and 
 other worse.

 All the losses are paper loses, unless the stock is actually sold, so 
 I'm going to hold on to my stocks, selling as little as possible while 
 the market is down.  Also, I'll invest as much as I can right now, while 
 stocks are down, then when the market recovers, I can splurge and enjoy 
 some of my gains.  I'm strictly a long term investor.  Right now the 
 DJIA is at 8,628.25 down 242.29 or 2.73% for the day.  Over the next 10 
 to 15 years years the DJIA will probably go to 28,000.

 Regards,

 LelandJ

 Michael Madigan wrote:
   
 Down almost 1000 Points since election day.

 http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI

 * 
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Re: HTML Formatted Emails not working in Outlook

2008-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Bob Lee wrote:
 Css while works great for webpages  does not translate when sent to outlook
 etc.. Most email readers just choke on it.
 Its best to remove css from your html formatted emails  -

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RE: [OT] Gays attack elderly lady

2008-11-11 Thread Bob Calco
Pete:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Pete Theisen
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Gays attack elderly lady
 
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Welcome to the Obama Nation.
 
 
 http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/11/elderly_christi.html#commen
 ts
 
 Hi Michael!
 
 The Bible distinguishes between men who lie with mankind as with a
 woman and even the women (who) have given themselves to unnatural
 usage. The former are to be killed, the latter are merely annoying.

Be careful quoting the OT passages like this. In context, they describe the
law of Moses, which was in force when Israel was theocracy, and has been
transcended by a new law in Christ...keep in mind that the purpose of the
law was condemnation of the flesh--all of it, not just the gays and
lesbians. That is why it says in the OT that no one, none, have attained
salvation through the law--and none can have it without accepting the
get-out-of-hell-free pass of Christ's atoning sacrifice.

The law of Christ is a rather more spiritual proposition. You must love your
enemies, and do good to those who hurt you. On the surface this conflicts
with the OT stuff--but in reality, it's the same law on a completely
different plane. The former is about fleshly prohibitions and punishment for
transgressions... the latter about spiritual states-of-being or
be-attitudes to borrow a Catholic formulation, and their rewards. 

In the flesh this is law is impossible... maybe you're struggling with the
flesh or afflicted by past harm, and that is why you are so eager to apply
the law of condemnation? Mote in your own eye and all that...

I say this with love, as a friend, but the spirit of unforgiveness in you is
strong, if not overpowering, and I suspect really afflicting you deeply.
Just be careful about this. I have suggestions I know will help for you
offline if you're interested.

 
 Since we do have separation of Church and state we should base our
 response to these people only on civil grounds. Male on male sex is
 medically dangerous. Where their dangerous activities impact the larger
 society, strict response is not only permissible, but mandatory.

This is a slippery slope used by the Left to justify all the vague
inferences of the public harm they concoct to justify their program of class
vengeance, masquerading as a love of the common good.

 
 All AIDS infected persons must be under a strict quarantine for the
 rest
 of their lives. We have already seen what self-regulation does,
 nothing.
 Those not AIDS infected could have civil unions as long as they stay
 away from kids and stop trying to call their outrageous behavior
 marriage.

Obviously I don't support changing the definition of marriage, which is sort
of like changing the definition of daytime for everyone just to suit a
handful night owls; nor do I particularly oppose civil unions or
partnerships per se, if it's all about equal treatment under the law. The
whole reason this is an issue is because of the tax benefits given to
married couples. But again... if I could get the government out of
micromanaging social behavior via the tax code altogether I'd gladly have no
benefits to married couples over government sponsored largesse for
everybody. The latter, now in vogue with impunity, is the way of bankruptcy
and moral death (as we shall soon rediscover, and actually have been
rediscovering the last 4 years in particular). 

One of many non-economic reasons I'm for the traditional tariff revenue
system. But alas, who will hear it? 

- Bob

 --
 Regards,
 
 Pete
 http://pete-theisen.com/
 
 
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