Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Hill
On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN inspectors firing rockets too? -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50 --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed my ass, they were shooting rockets from that building. Were the UN

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Hill
Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis killed yesterday in Qana was OK too? After all, they're only Muslims right? On 7/31/06, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the explanation. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Dominic Burford
Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?) And... Israel fire at who they like, and act

Re: [NF] Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Davies
M$ never adopted [packages], I can't understand why (unless it's a copyright issue or something)?? --Michael not copyright - iirc packages are part of the ansi standard - ms said there was 'no demand'. Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)#

Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
To All, I had a WEIRD error come up over the weekend in a set of programs that have been working for ages. I managed to tie the problem down to what I think is an error in VFP and wonder what you all think. Run the program below and you should find that the first and second select statement works

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! I don't know how much more real the issue can be than that of hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel can be. Real issues indeed. If treason is not an issue, then there are no issues. The argument of real issues other than these is the straw

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Dominic Burford
hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues which have been simplified into infantile tags. It is easier to churn out these (and hundreds more like them) that to discuss the real issues. The irony is, you have done exactly what I have described you would do.

Re: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Alan Bourke
What version of VFP Dave? -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan wrote: Too bad the 911 victims didn't get any flyers to clear out. My brother in law's company was on the 3? Floor of the second tower hit. When the first building was struck the management told the staff to leave. I'd say that would not be the norm for most of the other

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread petetheisen
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen!

RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
VFP 9 SP1 Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 31 July 2006 11:04 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: Wierd SQL Error -

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much

RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Sietse Wijnker
Hmm. strange indeed. What I'm seeing: The 1st call to the date function, the curTemp.cDate contains an empty value! I'm not sure but I'm bettiong it has to do with optimization of the query. I've seen this result by using an UDF that accepts 1 param and prints it out to the screen. Then include

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Dominic Burford
The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. And Israel has responded with an over the top display of military power that has just recently seen 37 children killed. They have also bombed the exit roads so that civilians cannot escape, they have bombed urban

RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Sietse, Seitse, Thanks for the heads up. On Saturday I did try removing the Join just as you suggested, as this was my first gut reaction but the query ran so slow (x 20) that I reverted to the ctod() solution just to get the damned thing working at a sensible speed. As for the Evl() solution,

Re: Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Davies
Mike Yearwood said If you always use parameterized SQL queries, the parameter contents can not be used for SIA. Surely it depends how you build the parameter variables - if you let the user enter them what is to stop them entering e.g. a city name as manchester go truncate table dbo.sysusers go

RE: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Sietse Wijnker
Part of my explanation was missing: The DATE() function does not accept year, month and day parameters that are equal to 0 (zero) and responds with the 'Function argument value, type, or count is invalid.' error. Because the VAL(substr()) starts with an empty string, the call to the DATE()

Re: Wierd SQL Error - Any Ideas?

2006-07-31 Thread Alan Bourke
Oooh nasty one! I notice it works OK if you have SELECT * instead of SELECT ALL -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html ___ Post Messages to:

[OT] Lieberman, 2007!

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
http://villagevoice.com/news/0631,sutton,73970,9.html -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Davies
Stephen Russell said I beg to differ. Each time you submit a query statement the server must create an execution plan for it. We've had this discussion before: according to my SQL Server book this is not true for v2000 and later - execution plans are cached and if a subsequent query differs

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 4:25 AM, Dominic Burford wrote: The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Hiding behind such a

RE: Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Andy, The bach-end - that's music to my ears! BG Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 31 July 2006 12:55 To:

RE: Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
Andy Davies wrote: btw some comments on this topic seem to imply that SQL Server supports parameterised queries: afaik Foxpro supports parameterised queries, including queries to a SQL Server back-end, but SQL Server itself only supports parameters to sp's - or have I missed something?

a collection issue

2006-07-31 Thread Vassilis Aggelakos
Hi All, I create a collection like this: oCol = CreateObject(Collection) ocol.add(5) ocol.add(6) ocol.add(7) I type in the command window: ? oCol(2) and I get 6. ? oCol.item(2).value and I get 6. OK until here. Then I want to change the value of the second Col item to 11.

Re: a collection issue

2006-07-31 Thread Malcolm Greene
Vassilis, You have to delete the original item and create a new item. There is no way to directly change a colleciton item's value. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

Re: a collection issue

2006-07-31 Thread Vassilis Aggelakos
Thanks Mal, I use collections in my apps very frequently. Usually I have a simple ColItem class that looks like this: DEFINE CLASS myColItem AS Custom Key = .null. Value = .null. TagInfo = .null. oChild = .null. ENDDEFINE I add this object to my collection and everything is fine when I

Re: [NF] Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Andy Davies wrote: M$ never adopted [packages], I can't understand why (unless it's a copyright issue or something)?? --Michael not copyright - iirc packages are part of the ansi standard - ms said there was 'no demand'. What's that address again.One Microsoft Way

using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
The discussion last week made me wonder where people stood on using VFP as the middle tier that it's been called best for in the past. If you have a non-VFP object using VFP as the middle tier, you can only get back single values and not a cursor (unless you're going to create an XML document

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] The discussion last week made me wonder where people stood on using VFP as the middle tier that it's been called best for in the past. If you have a non-VFP object using VFP as the middle tier, you can only get back single values and not a cursor

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, July 31, 2006 9:28 AM Stephen Russell wrote From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] snipped How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work

[OT] Yet another hypocrite

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
. Security Council resolution this week. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060731/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ rice;_ylt=Ar27EGtXLbWgRHvKh8mTtpCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM- ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/nvdoz ) Wait a second: a UN

RE: VFP Gig, Syracuse NY

2006-07-31 Thread Hal Kaplan
A franchise! This could be the 'burger-flipping' job of the 21st century G -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Sanders Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 13:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: VFP Gig, Syracuse NY You guys may have seen it

Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
David Crooks wrote: On Monday, July 31, 2006 9:28 AM Stephen Russell wrote From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] snipped How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I

RE: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (42)

2006-07-31 Thread Hal Kaplan
What do the locals call the portion of Michigan that is north of the Strait of Mackinac? What is the opposite of IP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 16:02 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP

RE: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (43)

2006-07-31 Thread Hal Kaplan
What is the Weekly Newsmagazine called? What did Jim Croce keep in his bottle? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 16:02 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP Keyword Jeopardy (43) TIME [excessive

Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Kent Belan
Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the same invoice. Computer

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? How does VFP interact with messages from a VB client, and how do you pass back munged

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Michael Hawksworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try turning it around! If you were using c# for the middle tier what would you pass? Depends totaly on what is the receiving code compiled in. VB6, VB.NET, c++, java, python? XML sounds great, but at what volume and what distance are you

RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the original record will not see the changes unless it tries to commit a change of its own. Then and only then will you get an exception thrown and you can decide what data is the most up to date. You need to refresh the data

Re: Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Kent Belan wrote: Hello, I am having a problem with my application VFP9 SP1. I have all free tables with optimistic row buffering. If I make a change on one computer and tableupdate() returns true, other computers will not see the change to the data. Example, 2 computers are sitting on the

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all thelifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Cipollina
I agree, unless VFP supports Binary serialization, use xml to communicate between layers. Thanks, Nick Cipollina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hawksworth Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 9:32 AM, David Crooks wrote: How best would you use VFP as the middle tier? Only with a VFP front end. It is funny that I first thought the same thing. Then I asked myself, that a VFP middle tier really should work with any front end. Right? You have to approach

RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Kent Belan
Hello Dave, Thanks for the reply. How do I refresh the data on computer 2 after computer 1 makes a change? I understand the timer, but do I have to seek the invoice or can I just do a thisform.refresh() Thanks, Kent Kent, Unless you do a refresh of the data, the machine sitting on the

RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Kent, Re-seeking the invoice data will give the desired effect or even a goto recno() for individual records in the invoice. Just a point, if you are viewing the invoice details in a Grid then you certainly need the set refresh to set to say 1 second. How are you holding the data on your

[NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software Microsoft is to start charging $1.50 for beta versions of Office 2007. From 2 August anyone wanting to download the software will have to pay the small fee.

Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Davies
Paul Hill said You could use a cursor internally and create methods to navigate (GoTop(), MoveNext(), EOF() etc). The object would probably need expose a property for each field in the results. I played with this some time ago... So did I - with the .net beta - it worked just fine. iirc I

Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus stored procs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Andy Davies wrote: Paul Hill said You could use a cursor internally and create methods to navigate (GoTop(), MoveNext(), EOF() etc). The object would probably need expose a property for each field in the results. I played with this some time ago... So did I - with the .net beta - it worked just

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
You're unable to grasp the facts. The Hezbollah purposely shot rockets off from there to draw fire so they could make the news. And the networks obliged. This is a war, in case you hadn't realized. --- Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irrelevant. I suppose the 37 children Israelis

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Please, you've been brainwashed by the Israel-hatiing BBC. --- Dominic Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
I haven't seen one post from the Jew haters on this list condemning the killing of Israeli children. I don't remember the Jew haters condemning the suicide bombers that were climbing onto school buses. I don't see one condemnation of the Kaytusha rockets, which are unguided, being fired into

Re: using VFP as middle tier to do all thelifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread Profox
Try turning it around! If you were using c# for the middle tier what would you pass? You would have to stay with the standards that your front end and middle tier both understand or go to a portable standard such as XML. The fact you are using VFP for the middle tier is moot unless you

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Kind of like Katrina victims. They know the storm is coming, they just stay where they are. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115

RE: Buffering and TableUpdate()

2006-07-31 Thread Rick Schummer
Assuming you are using tables and not views, you can use the SET REFRESH command to control how often VFP refreshes the local cache. The only other way to force VFP to refresh the local cache is to lock a record (which is what happens when you perform the TABLEUPDATE() in a optimistic buffering

Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Dave Crozier wrote: Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software Microsoft is to start charging $1.50 for beta versions of Office 2007. From 2 August anyone wanting to download the software will have to pay the small fee.

RE: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Dave Crozier
Nice one Whil! Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: 31 July 2006 17:01 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF]

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has nothing to do with any of that. You must first accept the notion that US is divinely guided, and that anything we do is Good. Same with Israel. We are incapable of doing bad things, since a priori everything we do is Good. When we wipe out a

[OT] to succeed in American politics

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Arnold
But in many ways, AIPAC has become greater than just another lobby; its work has made unconditional support for Israel an accepted cost of doing business inside the halls of Congress. When it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict, the terms of debate are so influenced by organized Jewish groups,

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh please. These people are either terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. They sure aren't your friend after you take their living space, or city infrastructure. It's like it's a scene made for a Halaburton No Bid Contract. Bad Steve!

Re: [OT] to succeed in American politics

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes about the Evil Jews behind every corner. Look out! Here's another one. What's that in his hand? Looks like a pastrami on rye. --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in many ways, AIPAC has become greater than just another lobby; its work has made unconditional support for

Re: Views in SQL Server

2006-07-31 Thread Mike yearwood
Hi Andy From: Andy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Views in SQL Server Mike Yearwood said If you always use parameterized SQL queries, the parameter contents can not be used for SIA. Surely it depends how you build the parameter variables - if you let the user enter them what is to

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open your home to terrorists, open your home to a guided missile. Jesus frequented visitations with sinners, and tax collectors. If they didn't want to listen he just shook the dirt off his sandals and found new ones.

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Jesus wasn't being hit by Kaytushas. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open your home to terrorists, open your home to a guided missile. Jesus frequented visitations with sinners, and tax collectors. If they didn't want to listen he just shook the

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
Signs that the Apocolypse is upon us: I agree with almost everything you've said. Repent for the day of the Lord is at hand! --- Profox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped I don't remember anyone on this list condemning Syria or Iran either. I guess because they're not Jewish states.

RE: using VFP as middle tier to do all the lifting versus storedprocs on RDBMS

2006-07-31 Thread David Stevenson
Stephen, It's been a long time since I did any XML from VFP. Can VFP pull schema and determine that there is a small combination of tables in an xml file? Or do you have to parse that out yourself? VFP's XMLAdapter can handle it if the schema isn't too complicated. In general, anything output

[OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
How To Change A Southwest Airlines Boarding Pass From a C or B to and A! http://boardfast.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-change-southwest- airlines.html ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/ztkkm ) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event). Is there a better

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with something in a UI.refresh event).

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case would be with

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: Would you rather your UI look at a property on the bizobj interface for a value, or call a bizobj function to get the value? Assume that it's something that would only be called once or twice, not repeatedly (as the case

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Ed, Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. That must be why Ann Coulter is always in a short black dress exposing lots of pasty-colored white skin. Her fans not only

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Calco
Jim: You have just articulated a plan I can actually respect as a potentially viable alternative to what we've done that actually makes tactical and strategic sense on numerous levels that the standard shrill critiques from the black helicopter crowd do not. My hat is off to you and I thank you.

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
And you only see though thick cataracts. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. That must be why Ann Coulter

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Bob, You have just articulated a plan I can actually respect as a potentially viable alternative to what we've done that actually makes tactical and strategic sense on numerous levels that the standard shrill critiques from the black helicopter crowd do not. My hat is off to you and I thank

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 7/31/06, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Her fans not only think in black and white -- those are the only colors they can see! Kris, tsss http://www.highlightskids.com/Science/ScienceQuestions/h1sciQbwColors.asp A+ jml ___

Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Ted Roche
On 7/31/06, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now you have to pay in order to pick the bugs out of the new M$ Beta software I don't do Microsoft Betas any more, but in the nineties a whole slew of FoxPro folks devoted hundreds of hours to backing up, installing, configured, testing,

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
So, what are the 'real issues'? List what you think are the Top five 'real issues' and I'll have a go at it. V/R //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAF Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] How To Change A Southwest Airlines Boarding Pass From a C or B to and A! ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/ztkkm ) I fly the other direction Northwest. What does an A boarding pass get you? And if they catch your in a forgery, can the feds take you away?

Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Ted Roche wrote: I can't imagine paying for the privilege. Perhaps there will be a backlash large enough that they'll recant. -- Thanks, --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: So, what are the 'real issues'? List what you think are the Top five 'real issues' and I'll have a go at it. The problem is not the choice of issue. The problem is responding to vacuous drivel, no matter what the issue

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: And by that you mean to be very interchangable and not get snagged on the different layers from which it may be called, if I understand that principle correctly. An example for folks not familiar with this would be where you program

[OT] Back alley liposuction

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/31/D8J726PO0.html Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com ___ Post

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Ed Leafe wrote: The example I gave back when I used to give this topic at conferences was a light switch in a room. In your app, you want to control the lighting by turning the switch on and off. Now let's imagine the switch is a typical mechanical switch with contacts that are opened and

RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fly the other direction Northwest. What does an A boarding pass get you? And if they catch your in a forgery, can the feds take you away? In their cattle call you get to go first if you have an A boarding pass. Some of the comments to the blog

RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread john harvey
Stepehen, Just tell them anything, and it's ok to forge someone else's name too. Can I have your laptop?G John Harvey www.cyber-posse.com www.johnharveysheriff.com http://memphiscrime.blogspot.com www.votinginmemphis.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread stephen . russell
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airline security is a joke --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you say that? This is the company spotting a forgery on where your sitting on the plane, no SWA doesn't sell a seat assignment just an open spot. When you get your ticket

RE: a collection issue

2006-07-31 Thread Sietse Wijnker
Hi Vassilis To directly access an item inside a collection for filling a property, you can use collection[index] or collection(index) (like it's an array) This is also handy when trying to access a value in the watch window As you've probably seen, debugging values inside a collection in the

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: I meant to reference that example too in my session at FoxForward! I recall you saying that...I think it was in the Profox archives from 2001? I don't know. I know I first started using that example back in the mid-90s when I was

Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Michael Babcock wrote: Ted Roche wrote: I can't imagine paying for the privilege. Perhaps there will be a backlash large enough that they'll recant. Nah, there'll be enough lemmings out there who will think it'll be cool to be 'beta testing'. They can brag to their golf buddies or try to

Re: [NF] Microsoft to charge for Office Betas

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Nah, there'll be enough lemmings out there who will think it'll be cool to be 'beta testing'. They can brag to their golf buddies or try to pick up chicks in bars with their new line. Hey, does that work (picking up chicks with those geeky lines)? ;-) Even if

Re: Design question

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Babcock
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: I meant to reference that example too in my session at FoxForward! I recall you saying that...I think it was in the Profox archives from 2001? I don't know. I know I first started using that example back in the

[OT] The Zionists/NeoCons have infiltrated even Arab TV

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Calco
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214ar=1050wmvak=null http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214ar=1050wmvak=null --- Enjoy - Bob --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

Floating Command Buttons

2006-07-31 Thread Eurico_EZ
Hi Tracy My bad. I am thinking of a picture with the buttons, floating over the grid that drops to next row everytime a row is added. But still you can click on the buttons and execute something. Eurico. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: [OT] Any Southwest fliers out there?

2006-07-31 Thread Jerry Wolper
Was it luck of the draw on who gets the A, B, C or was it in seniority like the # of miles you have flown? I believe (never having flown Southwest) that it's in order of check- in. -Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to:

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen wrote: I would have sent my wife and for God's sake my children to safety should I have chosen to resist. In their culture it's good to give your life for the cause. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen wrote: Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. Wow. Why not call Condi and tell her

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Stephen the Cook
Dominic Burford wrote: And Israel has responded with an over the top display of military power that has just recently seen 37 children killed. They have also bombed the exit roads so that civilians cannot escape, they have bombed urban areas where civialians live, including hospitals. I

RE: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Arnold
Here's my list of what I think should happen tomorrow: 1. Give every neocon in Washington a pink slip and a court date for the murder and destruction they've wrought in Iraq; the debt they've incurred the American public, and the loss of respect for America throughout the world. 2. Bust up

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