Re: Lianja

2017-11-13 Thread Kelvin Matola
Get through to Hank Fay , he will give you a good run down. Kelvin On 13/11/2017, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > I'd like to get any comments from folks here who've seen/used Lianja. > I've got some down

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Charlie-gm
On 11/11/2017 6:49 AM, Ted Roche wrote: On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: I doubt we'll see widespread adoption of fully autonomous road vehicles in any of our lifetimes. I doubt the automobile will replace the horse. People want to feel in charge,

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Fred Taylor
Thanks wOOdy. I figured somebody here would have that environment already. Fred On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: > See here: > https://www.screencast.com/t/3GHnncdx8RVZ > > That's a Win2016 x64 Standard (obviously in German) out of the box in a

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Fred Taylor
Maybe that's what he was talking about, the "Nano Server". Thanks Ted. Fred On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > > Hi wOOdy, > > > > I don't currently have a Server 2016 setup, we're

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Fred Taylor
Thanks Alan. Fred On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Fred > > Absolutely. > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 07:19 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > > Does anyone know if VFP9 .EXEs can run on Windows

AW: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
See here: https://www.screencast.com/t/3GHnncdx8RVZ That's a Win2016 x64 Standard (obviously in German) out of the box in a VmWare session. Nothing more done than running the classic VFP9SP2RT.exe runtime installer (to get the xml stack and the msvcrt.dll), and then just copying the VFP9.exe

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Alan Bourke
Fred Absolutely. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 07:19 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > Does anyone know if VFP9 .EXEs can run on Windows Server 2016? I don't > mean just access data on the server, actual run a runtime .EXE > application > on the server

[NF] Elon Musk and his Commodore VIC-20

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html Didn't one of you guys say that's how you got started (on that computer)? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-13 16:14, Bill Anderson wrote: Barry is the only developer and that Lianja development work will take a back seat for other paying clients... Gotta pay the bills first! ;-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > Hi wOOdy, > > I don't currently have a Server 2016 setup, we're getting new servers in a > couple of months and want to go with the latest. Someone told me server > 2016 could not run 32 bit apps, only 64 bit, that's why I

Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Bill Anderson
wOOdy, First of all, welcome back! I don't know the details regarding Recital. As far as Lianja is concerned, I've heard from people that should know that Barry is the only developer and that Lianja development work will take a back seat for other paying clients... Bill Anderson On Mon, Nov

Re: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Fred Taylor
Hi wOOdy, I don't currently have a Server 2016 setup, we're getting new servers in a couple of months and want to go with the latest. Someone told me server 2016 could not run 32 bit apps, only 64 bit, that's why I asked. Fred On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski

AW: VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
Hi Fred, Why not just test it on your own? But to assure you: "Server 2016" is basically the same kernel as Win10, thus: yes VFP9 runs on 2016, as any other 32bit software does. There's nothing special with a VFP9 exe. wOOdy -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ProFox

AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
Hi Bill, how do you come to that conclusion? Lianja and Recital is surely more than a one-man-show. The lead programmer is Barry Mavin, but he has some folk behind him. wOOdy -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Anderson Gesendet:

Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Bill Anderson
Alan, It's my understanding that Lianja is one guy, though the legality isn't in question Bill Anderson On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: > > BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA ,

VFP9 can run on Windows Server 2016?

2017-11-13 Thread Fred Taylor
Does anyone know if VFP9 .EXEs can run on Windows Server 2016? I don't mean just access data on the server, actual run a runtime .EXE application on the server itself/ Thanks, Fred --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept)

Re: AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-13 10:14, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help. Perhaps M$'s new leadership will re-activate Calvin Hsia and his

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > State owned vehicles? > > That one crossed the line. Big Brother is more present today that ever. Public ownership is Competent, Good, and *Never* Corrupted or Tainted by Unions or Major Corporations. Never.

Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: > BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :) And is one guy and of dubious legality I would think. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to:

Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Alan Bourke
Lianja is a great platform and has a high level of compatibility with VFP. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:14 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: > Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP > if > they would have

Re: Lianja

2017-11-13 Thread Frank Cazabon
I looked at it a couple years ago. I believe it was pretty straight forward. Frank. Frank Cazabon On 13/11/2017 10:45 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: I'd like to get any comments from folks here who've seen/used Lianja. I've got some down time and was considering

RE: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Paul H. Tarver
Actually, I wasn't endorsing the idea of the "state-owned vehicles" which was part of Ed's comment. But I used the word "authority" because I'm assuming even if it was a privately outsourced service, it would be heavily regulated. My point was more about the fact that I can just see someone

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-10 07:08, Alan Bourke wrote: I think if it's work commuting we're trying to eliminate then decentralisation and serious adoption of homeworking would be a more realistic goal. I think nearly everybody would love that goal. ___ Post

Re: AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-13 10:14, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help. Personally I find Lianja the best spin-off from the original

AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :) Since it doesn't add any significant new commands, syntax, language or objects, I wouldn't compare it with a VFP10 enhancement level. wOOdy -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von

AW: Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread Jürgen Wondzinski
Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help. Personally I find Lianja the best spin-off from the original FoxPro roots. Maybe you don't know it, but Lianja is

Re: AW: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-10 05:23, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: Hi Alan, I'm still unclear as to what problem it would solve. << You should read Elon Musk's view of the world problems. Start reading here: https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html The interesting part (for this

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Stephen Russell
State owned vehicles? That one crossed the line. Big Brother is more present today that ever. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Paul H. Tarver wrote: > I like the idea of what you suggest Ed, but the reality will not be good. > Most people are slobs. Don't believe me? Look in

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-11-12 01:07, Ed Leafe wrote: A fleet of state-owned autonomous cars would give me that freedom: pay for what you need, and not for idle time. So tax dollars are paying for this fleet? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Lianja

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
I'd like to get any comments from folks here who've seen/used Lianja. I've got some down time and was considering downloading/playing with it. Easy to pick up? tia, --Mike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Deceptive ad for VFP 10

2017-11-13 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.

RE: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Paul H. Tarver
I like the idea of what you suggest Ed, but the reality will not be good. Most people are slobs. Don't believe me? Look in the windows of cars in parking lots anywhere in the Country and you'll see what I mean. And I'm just as guilty as the next person, so I'm not calling anyone out here without

Re: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Cushing
On 13/11/2017 11:04, John Weller wrote: Milan, rush hour - it'll need a complete processor just to handle the horn! Not seen Milan rush hour but can't be any worse than Rome.  That was scary just trying to cross the road - on a crossing! Peter This communication is intended for the person

RE: [NF] Open systems Drive you crazy

2017-11-13 Thread John Weller
Milan, rush hour - it'll need a complete processor just to handle the horn! John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > I keep hearing this but based on what evidence? It might do OK on wide > motorways\freeways\autobahns but take it somewhere like the centre of > Milan at rush hour. >