Re: VFP Code Conversion Workbench

2024-09-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 24, 2024, at 09:39, Man-wai Chang  wrote:
> 
> Does this Workbench really work? Could he C# codes be compiled and
> linked into executable right after conversion? ;)

While it's certainly possible, it's not desirable unless it is a one-shot deal 
that you will never have to maintain again.

Otherwise, moving to a different language requires learning that language, 
including its strengths, weaknesses, and idioms. If you are going to convert to 
C#, and will need to maintain that app, you'd better learn C#. Once you do, you 
might look at the converted code and decide that it isn't optimal.


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Re: Outlook Automation Help Needed

2024-08-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 13, 2024, at 08:31, Alan Bourke  wrote:
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> The thing about Outlook automation is that its days are probably numbered in 
> the medium to long term. Once the 'new' Outlook client is the default and the 
> current native application is unsupported none of the MAPI or Object Model 
> stuff will apply anymore. Using the Outlook Graph API is probably the future 
> for this sort of requirement.

Speaking of the "New Outlook", I asked perplexity.ai how to disable quoting in 
that version. Its reply:

> In the "New Outlook," there is currently no built-in setting to turn off 
> quoting of the entire message when replying. Unlike the classic Outlook, 
> which provides options under the "File" tab to manage how original messages 
> are included in replies, the "New Outlook" lacks this feature. Users have 
> reported that there is no straightforward way to set up automatic quoting or 
> to disable it entirely in the new interface.As a workaround, you can manually 
> delete the quoted text after hitting reply, or copy and paste only the 
> specific parts of the message you wish to include in your response. 
> Unfortunately, until Microsoft updates the "New Outlook" with more 
> customizable reply settings, these manual methods are the primary options 
> available.

I've always suspected that Microsoft adopted this approach not because it was 
useful to users, but because it bloated the storage requirements for a business 
running Exchange, forcing companies to pay lots more money for storage.

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Re: Outlook Automation Help Needed

2024-08-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 12, 2024, at 17:32, Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
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> You get 'em Ed!

Everyone cat get 'em: set your Outlook prefs to not be piggish.

https://imgur.com/a/h1HKH9a


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Re: Outlook Automation Help Needed

2024-08-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 12, 2024, at 16:50, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
> 
> Hey there Richard - I'm having a problem understanding your
> Question/Problem - when you talk in Alien Speak!!!
> 
> I'm sure I'm not the only one...

First, some outlook emails are sent base64 encoded - I have no idea why. You 
can copy the gibberish text and paste in an online tool like 
https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/encode_decode/ and it will decode it for 
you.

So I did just that, and the email had the following line:

Refactor time. 😊 You should be able to swap out those SEEK function + 
!FOUND() calls with a single INDEXSEEK call.

followed by the complete text of Paul's message, including the full program 
text. IOW, there were 115 characters of actual new message out of 7792 
characters total, which is less that 1.5% of the message. Nothing personal 
against Richard, but rather Microsoft, and their idiotic default of top quoting 
and including the full text of the message being replied to. 

Sorry, but wasteful practices piss me off, and I just wanted to vent.


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Re: [ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-08-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 4, 2024, at 15:16, Ted Roche  wrote:
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> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>   dkim=fail header.i=@leafe.com header.s=mail header.b=Os6SioDN;
>   dkim=fail header.i=@leafe.com header.s=mail header.b=md9xnSO+;
>   dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@leafe.com

Wonder if I need to switch DKIM to use `leafe.com <http://leafe.com/>` instead 
of `mail.leafe.com <http://mail.leafe.com/>`? I've just done that, so let's see 
how this message does.

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Re: [ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-08-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 2, 2024, at 07:43, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> I don't know if that means that they are being slowed down or discarded. 
> Either way I need to update the DKIM settings on my server.

Found some errors in the opendkim configuration - fixed them, and it restarted 
without error. So let's see if that make Google happy.


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Re: [ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-08-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 1, 2024, at 20:09, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> Received here Ed.

Ack. I see some going through, but others with a message like:

Jul 28 00:08:44 mail postfix/smtp[36630]: 703B01206BF: 
to=, 
relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.202.27]:25, delay=267185, 
delays=267153/0.02/31/0.88, dsn=4.7.30, status=deferred (host 
alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.202.27] said: 421-4.7.30 Your email has 
been rate limited because DKIM authentication didn't 421-4.7.30 pass for this 
message. Gmail requires all bulk email senders to 421-4.7.30 authenticate with 
DKIM. 421-4.7.30  421-4.7.30  Authentication results: 421-4.7.30  DKIM = did 
not pass 421-4.7.30  To set up DKIM for your sending domains, visit 421-4.7.30  
https://support.google.com/a?p=turn-on-dkim  421-4.7.30 To learn more about 
Gmail requirements for bulk senders, visit 421 4.7.30  
https://support.google.com/a?p=sender-guidelines. 
a640c23a62f3a-a7aca7b84c7si471869166b.34 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA 
command))

I don't know if that means that they are being slowed down or discarded. Either 
way I need to update the DKIM settings on my server.


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Re: [ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-08-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 1, 2024, at 17:55, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> I've re-enabled the addresses that were disabled because of excessive 
> bounces, so I'm sending this to see if they go through. 

Looks like there are still issues. Back to the drawing board!


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Re: [ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-08-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 30, 2024, at 09:34, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> I've just gotten notification that many of your accounts on my server were 
> disabled due to excessive bounces, and all of those bounce notices were from 
> gmail addresses. I dug a little deeper, and it seems Google changed the auth 
> requirements for sending email to any gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> account. 

I *think* I figured out the issue, so this is a test to see if it worked.

I've re-enabled the addresses that were disabled because of excessive bounces, 
so I'm sending this to see if they go through. 


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[ADMIN] Google blocking ProFox posts to gmail addresses

2024-07-30 Thread Ed Leafe
I've just gotten notification that many of your accounts on my server were 
disabled due to excessive bounces, and all of those bounce notices were from 
gmail addresses. I dug a little deeper, and it seems Google changed the auth 
requirements for sending email to any gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> account. 

I don't have time right now to spend on this, but I will try to update things 
soon. And yes, I know that the people who are affected won't be able to receive 
this post, but maybe they'll be curious and check the archives.


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Re: It's been a long time...

2024-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 22, 2024, at 21:45, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
> 
> Yo Ed -- Long Live the Realm of the ProFox World!!!

Just checked the database behind the archives, and there have been 393,559 
messages to ProFox(Tech) over the years.

Well, after this message, make that 393,560.


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It's been a long time...

2024-07-22 Thread Ed Leafe
...since the first message posted to ProFox: exactly 25 years ago today!

https://leafe.com/archives/msg/1

It's amazing that something started as a temporary solution to a problem has 
proven to be so long-lived! And while only a handful of people post regularly, 
there are still 306 subscribers to the profox list, and 184 to the profoxtech 
list. So while the Fox might be dead, ProFox is still very much alive! 


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Re: [ADMIN] Email issue

2024-04-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 23, 2024, at 11:22, Joe Yoder  wrote:
> 
> I no longer get any of the list emails.  The only way for me to get answers
> to my questions is by going to the archive.  Does anyone know how to
> restore delivery?

I checked the list status, and your account is still active. So I checked the 
logs on the server, and they show mail going out normally via google:

91011:Apr 23 10:31:35 mail postfix/smtp[268230]: 9BDC5120630: 
to=, relay=aspmx.l.google.com[142.251.163.26]:25, 
delay=0.96, delays=0.14/0.31/0.15/0.37, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK  
1713886295 s15-20020a0562140caf00b006992314d921si13547765qvs.223 - gsmtp)

So if you're not getting emails from the list, check your spam folder, and if 
they aren't there, contact your email provider.


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Re: PDF Scraping

2024-01-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 12, 2024, at 21:51, Brian Erickson  wrote:
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> It is really easy to do with python.

Heh, I think those exact words with most posts on this list!  ;-P


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Re: [OT[ Other languages

2023-12-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 1, 2023, at 07:48, Graham Brown  wrote:
> 
> Has there been any thought to creating lists for other languages like Web,
> mobile, VB.Net and C#? Is there a requirement for this within the group?

Years ago (2003!) we started the ProPython list, as there were more and more 
people interested in moving to Python (for good reason!). However, in the past 
few years that traffic has died down to nothing.

I would propose that instead of a new list to label your subjects with "[NF]" 
for "not fox", and then add "[my_language]" after that so that others 
interested in that language can quickly see the message, and those who don't 
care can either delete it or add a filter to their email.


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Re: Just call me Master, for short

2023-09-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 1, 2023, at 12:17, Vincent Teachout  wrote:
> 
> Master of Science in Information Security.
> https://www.parchment.com/u/award/f75a554cf48fd78bb2a872629841f08d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=49&v=i55v-5WRADk


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Re: Logging

2023-08-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 1, 2023, at 15:15, Bill Anderson  wrote:
> 
> Well, the effects of deforestation and biodiversity come to mind...
> 
> Did you have something else in mind? ;)

This came to my mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-REDevAzk


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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

2023-02-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 16, 2023, at 21:41, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Someone just posted on the 3D Printing forum, of which I am a member - some 
> Python code to pause a print job. OF course, it was funny - since he posted 
> the Actual code - giving it up for others to use. 

Not funny at all. Sharing code is very commonplace in the world of free/open 
software.

I have a lot of my code on GitHub (https://github.com/EdLeafe), free for anyone 
to see and use/adapt. Why not?


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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

2023-02-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 15, 2023, at 19:01, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
> 
> So, I know there is a Leafe mailing list for Python, as I just looked on the 
> Leafe mailing lists website. But, sadly - unlike this one - it pretty much 
> looks dead. Sad - since I was just beginning to get back into some Python 
> programming again.

I set up the ProPython and ProLinux lists at a time when there was a lot of 
discussion about things on those topics on this list, and some members felt 
that that stuff didn't belong on a VFP list. But as you've noticed, there 
really isn't a need for those lists anymore, and since it takes me more effort 
to close them than to leave them running, they're still there.

But I still don't see anything wrong with asking Python questions here, as long 
as you add the [NF] in the subject, so that those members who only want VFP 
content can filter out such messages.


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Re: Archive search down?

2023-01-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 5, 2023, at 11:25, Richard Kaye  wrote:
> 
> Just tried to hit the archive search link ang got a 502 from nginx.

Might have been a blip in connectivity. Seems to be working now, so please try 
again.

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Re: [ADMIN] 502 Bad Gateway

2022-12-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 18, 2022, at 14:20, Ted Roche  wrote:
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> I looks like leafe.com is having a bad day. Getting
> 
> 502 Bad Gateway

The database server seems to have been offline. Looks like it's working now. 

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Re: [NF] PyWin32 for Python 2.3.1

2022-11-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 15, 2022, at 11:56, Paul Newton  wrote:
> 
> Does that include me (I registered a few minutes ago) ... maybe I'll post 
> this question there too ...

It shows you as 'pending'.

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Re: [NF] PyWin32 for Python 2.3.1

2022-11-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 15, 2022, at 11:35, Paul Newton  wrote:
> 
> I would have posted this on ProPython but nothing seems to have happened 
> there for a very long time ...

I can't help you with your ancient Python, but although there hasn't been a 
post to ProPython in a very long time, there are still 74 people subscribed!

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Re: Need Help - Foxpro & Chilkat & Rest API

2022-07-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 11, 2022, at 16:51, Paul H. Tarver  wrote:
> 
> I'll keep looking for your project and when you release it, I'll definite
> consider upgrading to your tool as soon as I can. 

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Re: Last Chapter

2022-07-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 11, 2022, at 13:38, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) 
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> 
> Five or so years since retiring, and all "just-in-case" scenarios fully
> played out, so... The last chapter in my Fox story is imminent. My large
> cache of FoxPro books is hitting the recycle bin.

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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

2022-05-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 13, 2022, at 14:38, Frank Cazabon  wrote:
> 
> Ed, is there a C# SDK for doing this? Or maybe it's time to learn some python.

A long time ago there was, but I have no knowledge of its current state. I used 
to head of the team that developed SDKs for Python, Java, NodeJS, Ruby, C#, and 
PHP. But that was 8 years ago, and Rackspace isn't the same company now that 
they were then. They were bought by a vulture ^H^H^H^H^H^H venture capital firm 
several years ago, and they are a pale shadow of what they once were.

As an aside, I would consider moving resources to a different cloud provider. I 
haven't used Rackspace for any of my cloud needs for about 4 years now.


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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

2022-05-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 13, 2022, at 07:36, Frank Cazabon  wrote:
> 
> What I get back is: Status 404, the resource could not be found.
> 
> Can you see what I am doing wrong?

Nothing jumps out at me. 

There is a 'v2' version of the API - have you tried that?


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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

2022-05-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 12, 2022, at 14:31, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
> Here's the code as it should be: 
> https://github.com/pycontribs/pyrax/blob/master/pyrax/object_storage.py#L599-L606

Geez, that's just the handler code. Here's the actual call I copied in the 
first message: 
https://github.com/pycontribs/pyrax/blob/master/pyrax/object_storage.py#L1445-L1465

Gotta stop emailing while writing other code. :)


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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

2022-05-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 12, 2022, at 14:06, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
> nm = new_obj_name or utils.get_name(obj)
> uri = "/%s/%s" % (utils.get_name(new_container), nm)
> copy_from = "/%s/%s" % (utils.get_name(container), utils.get_name(obj))
> headers = {"X-Copy-From": copy_from,
> "Content-Length": "0"}
> if content_type:
> headers["Content-Type"] = content_type
> resp, resp_body = self.api.method_put(uri, headers=headers)
> return resp.headers.get("etag")

Ugh, that totally messed the formatting. Who the hell runs this email list

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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

2022-05-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 12, 2022, at 13:10, Frank Cazabon  wrote:
> 
> anybody here ever had to do anything with Rackspace's  Storage API to move 
> objects around?
> 
> I think I've seen Rackspace mentioned here before so I'm hoping.
> 
> I've got to copy a file from one container to another (actually it's a lot of 
> files but I'm just trying to prove the concept).

I wrote the Python SDK for Rackspace (actually, all of OpenStack), and here's 
the code for copying one object to another container:

@_handle_container_not_found
def copy_object(self, container, obj, new_container, new_obj_name=None, 
content_type=None):
"""
Copies the object to the new container, optionally giving it a new name.
If you copy to the same container, you must supply a different name.

Returns the etag of the newly-copied object.

You can optionally change the content_type of the object by supplying
that in the 'content_type' parameter.
"""
nm = new_obj_name or utils.get_name(obj)
uri = "/%s/%s" % (utils.get_name(new_container), nm)
copy_from = "/%s/%s" % (utils.get_name(container), utils.get_name(obj))
headers = {"X-Copy-From": copy_from,
"Content-Length": "0"}
if content_type:
headers["Content-Type"] = content_type
resp, resp_body = self.api.method_put(uri, headers=headers)
return resp.headers.get("etag")


To translate to English, the URI is the base URI for the service, with 
"/new_container/new_name" appended to it. "new_name" defaults to the original 
object's name, but if you supply a different name for the copied object, that 
one is used instead.

The headers contain an item "X-Copy-From", whose value is 
"/original_container/original_name", which tells the API where to copy from. 
The operation is a PUT. "COPY" is a non-standard method; I don't know what 
idiot wrote the documentation you cited. These are the HTTP methods: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol#Request_methods

Hope that makes some sense. If not, please let me know what needs clarifying.


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Re: Foxfest Tomorrow.... Help

2022-05-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 4, 2022, at 12:04, Jeff Roberts  wrote:
> 
> I think Gmail has it in for Foxpro as bad or worse than Microsoft. I am
> constantly having to check my spam folder for messages and they are always
> Profox or Foxpro related. I even have a rule for Profox messages but it
> seems to ignore it from time to time. -Jeff

Try running an email server for a while. For example, I filtered out nearly 
1,000 spam emails over the past weekend, with fewer than 80 legit emails.


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Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

2022-04-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 11, 2022, at 17:02, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different approach)
> will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to reinvent the wheel
> regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody knows of any tools or
> existing code that could be helpful .

Here's an example using Python and its built-in `mailbox` library: 
https://python-forum.io/thread-16787.html


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Re:

2022-04-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 11, 2022, at 08:53, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> I feel that it is no good having plans if you never reach the age to put them 
> into practice

Probably the best wisdom ever posted to this list.

> Remember, nothing runs like a Fox…. Even a 40 year old one!

Well, I dunno... I think a 30-year old Python can give it a run for its money!  
;-)


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Re: VRunFox

2022-04-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 8, 2022, at 10:02, Carl Lindner  wrote:
> 
> I pulled down VRunFox-master.zip.  The project seems to be missing
> phxbasecontrols.vcx and ts.scx.
> 
> I copied the base controls to the \classes guessing it would be happy.
> 
> But, cannot find ts.scx.  Can anyone help?

I remember this coming up before, but it's been over 15 years since I last 
touched vRunFox (or VFP, for that matter). I no longer have any way to test 
this, but the last bit of code that I could find for it I posted on GitHub a 
while back. Feel free to grab that code and see if you can make it work.

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[NF] Remember when Google's motto was "Don't be Evil"?

2022-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
What a shock! Google, through its Chrome browser and Android OS, are selling 
more information about you than ever before. 

It's really hard to understand the extent of what they're doing, but former 
Googlers have updated their cartoon series about Chrome, and the result is 
eye-opening. I stopped using Chrome a while ago, but still need it on occasion 
for work.

https://contrachrome.com/comic/page01/

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Re: Using gmail to send emails from your VFP apps -- deadline approaching for shutoff

2022-03-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 4, 2022, at 12:01, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
 wrote:
> 
> Z290IHRoaXMgbm90aWNlIGZyb20gZ29vZ2xlIHRvZGF5OgoKCiAgTGVzcyBzZWN1cmUgYXBwcyAm
... etc.

Try this site: https://www.base64decode.org


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Re: [ADMIN] 404 reporting spam, like Error 13 while attempting to report error 13

2022-02-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 10, 2022, at 07:02, Ted Roche  wrote:
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> Report [OT] Abuse:
> http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/690138726004499690133705957744...@g65b6.revolutionn.us
> 
> Clicked the link for "Report Abuse" and got:
> 
> OMG, something went wrong!
> 
> 404 Not Found: The requested URL was not found on the server. If you
> entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again.

Geez, that's so old - it predates when I split my hosting into leafe.com and 
mail.leafe.com.

I'll remove that from the footer until I can find the time to re-implement some 
sort of notification. Until then, just ping me on the list.

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Re: [NF] Beyond Quickbooks

2022-01-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 19, 2022, at 10:09, AndyHC  wrote:
> 
> Twenty some years ago I used Quicken (QuickBooks lite) and was so impressed 
> by the user interface I recommended it as an example of how to write 
> user-friendly code. I was less impressed by their lack of transparency on 
> file structures that allowed them to charge annually for tax rules updates, 
> bu still, pretty much everybody does that now and - it stands out in my 
> memory.

One of the first articles I had published was how to implement Quicken date 
shortcuts in FoxPro. Years later people still came up to me telling me that 
they use those shortcuts in all of their apps because their users loved how 
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Re: [NF]Help desk and language skills

2022-01-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 8, 2022, at 06:17, Man-wai Chang  wrote:
> 
> The problem is out-sourcing and down-sizing, the lowest price won,
> which meant lower language skills and less smart. That help desk
> person might be following a stupid A.I. the stupid way as well. :)
> 
> "Global village" meant you need to deal with people whose mother
> tongue was not English, as well as different accents.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 9:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC
>  wrote:
>> 
>> My IT guy says he's been dealing with several
>> not-very-good-at-all-speaking-English persons and it seems like each
>> time he has to start over...their communication skills are abysmal.
>> 
>> Don't you love this global village?

There's an easy answer: speak to them in their native tongue. 

Oh, wait - you mean you only speak English? 


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Re: [NF] Microsoft wrongly blocking lots of emails

2022-01-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 5, 2022, at 14:21, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> Anybody else experiencing errors like this trying to email folks who use 
> Office 365 as their email provider?
> 
> Access denied, banned sender[172.104.208.100]. To request removal from this
>list please forward this message todel...@messaging.microsoft.com. For
>more information please go to
>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=526653. AS(1410)
>[BN1NAM02FT015.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to RCPT TO
>command)

I've had to deal with a lot of email providers that block this list because 
it's hosted on a VPS from Digital Ocean. It has nothing to do with the content, 
just that the IP address is in a banned range.

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Re: Fatal error 708 while trying to report error 708 -- do I win a prize???

2021-11-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 8, 2021, at 20:25, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
 wrote:
> 
> My Fox seemed to have that deer in the headlights after some FRX testing.  
> Got this error after trying to quit after selecting each of the datasessions 
> open: https://www.screencast.com/t/eVtnBdvsvmt
> 
> I think I at least deserve a t-shirt for that or something.

I remember someone explaining this type of error as "I'm choking on a chicken 
bone, but I can't tell you that, because I'm choking on a chicken bone."

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Re: Webfaction web site host

2021-08-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 3, 2021, at 09:03, Ken McGinnis  wrote:
> 
> What to do next:
> 
>You will need to create backups of your website, databases, applications
>and emails before the closure of the platform, and move your hosting to a
>new provider.
> 
>The below hosting providers offer additional features which may be more
>compatible with your current WebFaction package:
> 
>- Opalstack (opalstack.com),
>- DigitalOcean (digitalocean.com)
>- Heroku (heroku.com)
>- PythonAnywhere (pythonanywhere.com).

I host my website, my mail server (for this list!), and my storage all on 
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Re: [NF] New Job & The Silence is Killing Me...

2021-07-21 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 20, 2021, at 21:33, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:

> Wow - seems like in the past month or so - its gotten VERY Quiet around 
> here!!!

Well, it *is* summer. The more frequent posters are probably relaxing on a 
beach somewhere. :)

> And - for those that follow my Meanderings thru this thing we call life - I 
> was last working Tech support at Northrop-Grumman in Redondo Beach, CA - and 
> was there for like 1 year and 2 months. Well - I know moved onto a New Gig - 
> which may be my true DREAM JOB - as its a 3D Printing co. in Irvine - 
> building Big and Hi-Tech and FAST 3D Printers! So - its VERY Cool indeed!!!

Sounds great! What sort of work are you doing there?

> P.S. OK - my bad - after I started to write this I realized I should probably 
> tag this as NF - although I DID start with a Q re: Quiet ProFox list...

No worries - took care of it for you for subsequent discussion!


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Re: Windows 11???

2021-06-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 28, 2021, at 15:18, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> 
> Or port to Angualr, React, Vue, etc.
> 
> All of that potential porting revenue you have missed out on.

You said what I've been thinking for the past 20 years.

Maintaining an app that's working fine and doing what the client needs is one 
thing. Growing an app as a client's business grows is another.

I had a ton of fun working in VFP for many years. But when the writing on the 
wall was too big to ignore, I moved on, and I've had a ton of fun in my new 
community. And yeah, it hasn't hurt my bank account, either!  ;-)


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Re: [NF] VS 2022 will be 64 bit they say.

2021-04-21 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 20, 2021, at 22:55, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> I remarked on this awhile back on my LinkedIn profile.  Why can't they come 
> up with something new?  Why use the Floppy Disk image yet?!?  Today's 
> generation never even saw/used a floppy disk!

Think about it: the only physical thing that they *may* have saved something to 
would be a USB stick. Many haven’t even used that. But they *have* clicked that 
icon knowing it meant “save”, even if they didn’t understand the meaning of the 
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Re: [NF] VS 2022 will be 64 bit they say.

2021-04-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 19, 2021, at 11:31, Stephen Russell  wrote:
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> Also included are refreshed icons!  

I like how they “refreshed” the save icon by turning the floppy disk 
upside-down! Now that’s super-fresh in 2022!

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Re: Paul McNett

2021-04-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 2, 2021, at 13:39, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> I answered my own question.  He's apparently the Engineering Director at 
> Lucid Design Group (Acuity Brands) in Hollister, CA.
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcnett/

Paul and I still keep in touch. We were supposed to get together in person for 
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Re: [NF] Desktop Development in the roaring 20s

2021-04-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 2, 2021, at 09:35, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
> 
>> https://pyvideo.org/pycon-us-2010/creating-rich-client-applications-using-dabo.html
> 
> Is there a higher-res version of that presentation?

Unfortunately, that was pretty much state-of-the-art with conference recording 
back in those days.


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Re: [NF] Desktop Development in the roaring 20s

2021-04-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 31, 2021, at 14:11, Paul Hemans  wrote:
> 
> I built an app that allows access to local devices and data while still
> being a browser, if anyone needs help in that area.

I built a desktop app that communicates with a server via HTTP, allowing the 
app to update itself, with all the logic on the server, so that the app was a 
lightweight client, like a browser. 

Back in 2010.

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Re: ProFox List Statistics for February 2021

2021-03-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 1, 2021, at 11:47, JĂźrgen Wondzinski  wrote:
> 
> And please note that absolutely staggering precision in calculations:
>>> (Up 163.329998% from January 2021)
> 
> It's almost like FoxPro with SET DECI TO 15!

I saw that, and added an additional round() call.

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Re: [NF] WFH desktop heater?

2021-02-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 15, 2021, at 13:48, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
> 
> Hey! Looking for recommendations on a desktop heater for my home office. 
> Ideally one that's small and quiet with a steady warmth vs the one I have 
> right now which sounds like a jet taking off with an equivalent blast of 
> heat. I'm not looking to heat my entire office, just the vicinity of my upper 
> body in front of my monitors.

Maybe look on eBay for one of those old Pentium computers? They were pretty 
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Re: Anyone There?

2021-02-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 10, 2021, at 09:49, John Weller  wrote:
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> Many thanks Ed - I missed everybody 😊

And don’t forget - if it ever starts getting too quiet, check the archives!


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Re: Anyone There?

2021-02-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 10, 2021, at 09:29, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
>> Is anybody there?
> 
> Don’t know if you’ll see this, but email from the list has been bouncing from 
> your address, and the list software disabled your account. I’ve manually 
> re-enabled it, so let’s hope your ISP has come to their senses and stopped 
> blocking mail from my servers.

Looks like it worked!

Feb 10 09:29:57 mail postfix/smtp[406004]: B024212037A: 
to=, relay=mx1c51.megamailservers.eu[91.136.8.162]:25, 
delay=5.4, delays=0.15/0.67/3.8/0.77, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 
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Re: Anyone There?

2021-02-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 10, 2021, at 05:20, John Weller  wrote:
> 
> Is anybody there?

Don’t know if you’ll see this, but email from the list has been bouncing from 
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[NF] A tale of two Pythons

2021-01-31 Thread Ed Leafe
This thread is wonderful, especially if you are a Monty Python fan: 

https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/1355310333875773444


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Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2020

2021-01-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 3, 2021, at 16:54, JĂźrgen Wondzinski  wrote:
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> Thanks for checking! The count now seems correct, but my name is stil mangled.

Maybe it’s your mail client? Here’s how it looks in Apple Mail:

https://pasteboard.co/JHZPTtS.png


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Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2020

2021-01-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 3, 2021, at 13:36, JĂźrgen Wondzinski  wrote:
> 
> Somehow that calculation is broken. It lists me as the one with the most
> started threads. Definitely not true ...

It was assuming that all replies to a thread started with “Re: “. Your replies 
start with “AW: “. I’ve updated the code to exclude that variation from the new 
threads.

Are there any other language-specific reply prefixes I should also be aware of?

> It also can't get my name / umlaut correctly. Duh.. 

It’s correct in the database, but somehow the Python2 code was mangling the 
character set. I’ve just updated the script to Python 3, and it appears to be 
correct now. I’m going to re-send the yearly stats with these updates.


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Re: Record width

2020-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 4, 2020, at 14:22, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> And this project is one of those passed through the years and isn't something 
> easily refactored without worries you break something elsewhere unknown.

s/worries/guaranteeing

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Re: Do you have code in place for DST?

2020-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 2, 2020, at 16:18, Stephen Russell  wrote:
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> Who has to write programs that span time zones?  Do you adjust against HQ
> time or UTC?

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Re: [NF] nice python code tricks

2020-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2020, at 11:46, Stephen Russell  wrote:
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> My employer is looking to do more in python code if applicable.
> 
> I accept that as a challenge.

Well, at least you know a good resource. ;-)


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Re: [NF] nice python code tricks

2020-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:14, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> 
> 10 Python Tips and Tricks For Writing Better Code
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-gEQdGVXbk

Those kinds of things are what I use when interviewing candidates. I’ll give 
them some code to review that has several of those less efficient/elegant 
structures, and based on how many they notice, I’ll have a pretty good idea 
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Re: Task: Process thousands of records through a regular process -- multiple EXE runs to cut down processing time??

2020-08-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Aug 2, 2020, at 18:24, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> Thanks for the ideas.  Honestly, it's the API that's the slow part of the 
> whole mix.  That's the vendor's programmers; out of my control.

How you call the API is under your control, though.

I don’t have the first idea how this would be done in VFP, but in general you 
get around a blocking task by using some async design. The most direct approach 
would be multiple threads, but some languages have a callback design. One of 
the reasons that the Go language became wildly popular over the past few years 
is that is async is a fundamental design in the language: 
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[NF] What if...?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
Another language comparison:

https://i.imgur.com/9U7sg9A.jpg

I labeled this [NF] because, well… you know.


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Re: Where is the Fox?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2020, at 15:47, Jean Laeremans  wrote:
> 
> Am I supposed to care ?

Only if you’re planning for the future.

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Re: Where is the Fox?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2020, at 13:23, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> There's lots of things missing. You get the answer to the questions you ask.
> 
> GitHub seems to flag FoxPro projects as "xBase" -- at least that's what
> VFX/Thor is. There are also "topics" for VFP, so there's another variation.
> 
> StackOverflow, otoh, has separate xBase and FoxPro and "Visual FoxPro" tags.
> 
> So, if you are looking at the intersection of two metrics, you'd better
> make sure they're the same thing.

OK, let’s assume that you could wave your wand, and aggregate all of those so 
that they are all recorded as “FoxPro”.

Do you think it would show up even then?


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Re: Where is the Fox?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:54, Eric Selje  wrote:
> 
> Don't those measure how many questions were asked about those languages on
> those platforms? Fox is so easy there are fewer questions, and we ask them
> on other platforms. That's my spin and I'm sticking to it.

The Y-axis is based on questions. The X-axis is based on GitHub project using 
the language.

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Re: Where is the Fox?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 31, 2020, at 13:32, Vince Teachout  wrote:
> 
> Rebol and Dabo also seem conspicuous by there absence.

Dabo isn’t a language; it’s 100% Python.


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Where is the Fox?

2020-07-31 Thread Ed Leafe
Redmond Programming Language rankings for Q3 2020

https://redmonk.com/sogrady/files/2020/07/lang-rank-q320-wm.png

Something seems to be missing...


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Re: ADMIN: Archives seem uncooperative

2020-07-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 28, 2020, at 19:20, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> No rush. Archival blog posts aren't going anywhere. Glad you found the
> problem. As always, thanks for the hosting!

Looks like a corrupted index. Should be fine now.

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Re: ADMIN: Archives seem uncooperative

2020-07-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:27, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> My blog does a self-check for broken links and came up with a bunch of
> Leafe.com archive links it said were dead. Trying to manually search for
> "PyCon DC 2005" threw a server 500 error, "Internal Server Error
> The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your
> request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the
> application."

Confirmed. A quick glance at the logs shows it’s a database config error.

I’ll try to get to it in the next day or two.


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Re: Unit tests (was Re: [NF] I will .....)

2020-07-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 23, 2020, at 12:17, Garrett Fitzgerald  wrote:
> 
> I still have trouble conceptualizing how to write unit tests for data
> access.

That’s good, because once you exercise anything outside of the “unit”, it’s no 
longer a unit test.

What you generally do is mock the database call, returning what the DB *should* 
return. This way you’re testing your code, not the DB connection.

If you want to test against a live system, you need to run functional tests.


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Re: NF Windows 11 ?

2020-07-21 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 21, 2020, at 06:55, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> Apple finally turned their OS up to 11:
> https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299799/macos-11-big-sur-os-x-apple-verison-number-end-era
> 
> Microsoft can't be more than 2, 3, 5 years behind...

Well, waddya know? It had been “OS X” for so long that most people pronounced 
it “oh ess ecks”, not realizing that it was supposed to be “10”.

Those of us who knew that the X in OS X was a Roman numeral will now probably 
pronounce “OS 11” as “oh ess too”. ;-)


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Re: NF Windows 11 ?

2020-07-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 20, 2020, at 19:20, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> M$ made it clear (although I guess they *could* change their mind) that there 
> will not be anything past Windows 10, iirc.

Copying Apple once more? OS X (ten) has been around for about 20 years now, and 
it’s still “10”. Of course, it’s up to 10.15.x...

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Re: [NF] Suggestions for DBA tools for MariaDB?

2020-07-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:06, Vince Teachout  wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering what you're using for MariaDB?  So far I've found and looked at 
> Heidi, and while it' a lot better than just command line, I'm not terribly 
> impressed.

https://codingsight.com/10-best-mysql-gui-tools/

I use phpMyAdmin occasionally, but mostly just work from the command line.


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Re: ProFox archives error

2020-07-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 2, 2020, at 7:25 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
 wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 17:48, Ed Leafe  wrote:
>>> Looks like an update to the Elasticsearch backend. Let me investigate.
>> Turned out to be a bit of corruption in the index. Should be working fine 
>> now!
>> 
>> And thanks for letting me know!
>> 
>> -- Ed Leafe
> 
> 
> What's the database managing all of this, Ed?

I mentioned it above: Elasticsearch


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Re: ProFox archives error

2020-07-02 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 1, 2020, at 17:48, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> Looks like an update to the Elasticsearch backend. Let me investigate.

Turned out to be a bit of corruption in the index. Should be working fine now!

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Re: ProFox archives error

2020-07-01 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 1, 2020, at 17:34, Philip Borkholder  wrote:
> 
> Internal Server ErrorThe server encountered an internal error and was unable 
> to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an 
> error in the application. Is there a different site to search ProFox 
> archives?I keep getting this error.

Looks like an update to the Elasticsearch backend. Let me investigate.


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FoxPro Migration Job

2020-07-01 Thread Ed Leafe
I just got this from a recruiter on LinkedIn. It’s not for me, but I thought 
I’d pass it along.

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I am currently working on a position with a client of mine and feel you might 
be a qualified candidate for it. My client is looking for a Senior System 
Analyst.  

This candidate will help spearhead an ERP migration to newer technologies. 
Currently using FoxPro and will need knowledge in FoxPro.

Other technologies needed: .NET/C#, SQL, etc.  

Progress 4GL and ERP experience will be a plus but not a requirement.  

This position is a full-time opportunity located in the Austin, TX area.  

I have a great relationship with their HR, so please get back to me ASAP. To 
speed the process, please let me know when you are available by phone and if 
you could, attach a final draft of your resume. Also, if you’re not interested, 
but you know other people who would be interested, let me know!  

I look forward to speaking with you soon!  

Henry Eaddy 
Executive Recruiter at Crawford Thomas Recruiting 
407-960-5835 
henr...@crawfordthomas.com

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Re: Bizarre scenario solved by READWRITE clause on end of SELECT SQL (SOLVED)

2020-06-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 24, 2020, at 21:32, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> So much for my seeing if the DELETED() index helped.   As I said...I don't 
> think any very small performance gain would be worth the aggravation this 
> caused.  (Made me doubt other areas working for years tooyou know, the 
> things nobody yet noticed or told you about?!?!?)

https://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~NonDiscriminatingIndex

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Re: SQLite

2020-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2020, at 12:35, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> Just curious--given what you said, why wouldn't you just go to MariaDB right 
> away then, skipping SQLite?

MariaDB requires a separate server. SQLite is a small library for a file-based 
database that doesn’t require a server.

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Re: [ADMIN] Problem uploading file to ProFox downloads section

2020-06-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 23, 2020, at 05:36, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> https://www.artsy.net/artist/edward-leafe
> 
> Cool!  Did you move to LA?  Thought you were in Texas last I heard?

I’m a remote developer and a remote photographer. :)

I submit my work to galleries around the country. One submission to LACP gave a 
big discount to members, and it was cheaper to submit as a member, even with 
the cost of membership, so I joined.


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Re: [ADMIN] Problem uploading file to ProFox downloads section

2020-06-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 18, 2020, at 14:38, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> Keep me informed if you've got more fundraisers.  Glad to contribute as a 
> "thanks" for all you do!

Well, I won’t be doing any more bike fundraisers: 
https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/

But I am part of a fundraiser for the Los Angeles Center of Photography: 
https://www.artsy.net/show/los-angeles-center-of-photography-lacp-members-fundraising-exhibition

Very modest prices! :)


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Re: [ADMIN] Problem uploading file to ProFox downloads section

2020-06-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 18, 2020, at 09:49, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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> 
> Got this error when trying to upload a simple PRG: 
> https://www.screencast.com/t/pKl9iQ5Rowst

You caught me in the middle of an upgrade. :)

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Re: Blast from the Past

2020-06-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 11, 2020, at 03:02, Alan Bourke  wrote:
> 
>> My site hasn’t run on Zope, though, for a dozen years or so. :)
> 
> Zope and Plone were a thing once.

Back around 2001 I was looking to re-do my website, and searched around for 
recommendations. The name ‘Zope’ kept popping up, and since it was in my price 
range (free!), I downloaded it and started playing around. It came with several 
simple things for making different pages, and seemed to work OK, but if you 
wanted to do anything more than basic static HTML, you had to write “scripts” 
in this language called “Python”. I had never used Python, but after skimming 
some examples I tried writing a Python script. It worked on the first try.

Beginners luck, right? So I tried something a little more complex, and that 
worked, too! After a few of these I figured that either I had just gotten 
really smart, or Python fit my brain really well. It’s now almost two decades 
since, and while my website isn’t in Zope anymore, it’s still in Python.


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Re: Blast from the Past

2020-06-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 10, 2020, at 12:33, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> The Linux Journal article is still live, too:
> 
> https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6869

Wow! What a well-written article!  :)

I especially like the use of “e-mail” – so quaint!

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Blast from the Past

2020-06-10 Thread Ed Leafe
I was cleaning up some dead links in my browser’s bookmarks, and came across 
this blog post:

http://jim.roepcke.com/blog/archives/2003/04/18/ms-says-no-to-foxpro-on-linux.html

The linked article for The Register is still live.

My site hasn’t run on Zope, though, for a dozen years or so. :)

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Re: Profox Archives

2020-06-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 8, 2020, at 13:05, John Weller  wrote:
> 
> Answered my own question - I wasn't!

Actually, the link on the list info page was out of date. When I re-did the 
site last year, I didn’t think of updating the list info pages. But thanks to 
your message, it is now fixed!


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Re: Paradox data viewer and exporter?

2020-05-21 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 21, 2020, at 15:51, Kevin Cully  wrote:
> 
> I just heard from our CIO that there is a old Paradox system that they would 
> like to export some data to Excel.  She's not able to connect to the Paradox 
> tables via a vendor supplied ODBC connection.  It might be a version issue or 
> perhaps she doesn't have all of the data tables properly downloaded.
> 
> Has anyone used a Paradox Data Viewer to export the data that they can 
> recommend?  Thank you, ahead of time.

A quick internet search turned up this: http://pxlib.sourceforge.net/

I’ve never used it (or Paradox, for that matter!), but it’s worth a shot if 
your other options don’t work out.


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[ADMIN] Upgraded server

2020-04-27 Thread Ed Leafe
Over the weekend I upgraded the mail server from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04, and 
there have been some issues with mis-matched versions and libraries. If you 
have tried to send a message in the last few days, please check the archive 
(https://leafe.com/archives) to verify that it was posted.

I *think* I have all the kinks worked out, but please let me know off-list 
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Re: File sharing services

2020-04-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 23, 2020, at 15:52, Richard Kaye  wrote:
> 
> Calling on the collective wisdom. What are people using th4eses days to share 
> files with customers beside Dropbox? Preferably something that can be 
> accessed via APIs.

I prefer box.com over Dropbox (long story). They have full API access: 
https://developer.box.com/reference/

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Re: [ADMIN] Archives down

2020-03-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> Having some issues with my Elasticsearch backend, so the archives will be 
> unavailable until I can fix it.

The archives are back and working normally.


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[ADMIN] Archives down

2020-03-30 Thread Ed Leafe
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Re: Nostalgia -- updating an app written 15+ years ago

2020-01-14 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 14, 2020, at 09:55, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
 wrote:
> 
> Was it overly complex code?  I had a project many many years ago where I'd 
> say "this is the section of code where you grab the Excedrin."  Although 
> admittedly, that was somebody else's construct, not from MBSS.  :D

No, not really. It was just the style and structure seemed alien. Like if you 
used to speak a foreign language, but didn’t use if for many years: things 
aren’t familiar, and it takes a lot of conscious thought to follow along. Not 
like a pair of warm slippers at all. :)

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Re: Nostalgia -- updating an app written 15+ years ago

2020-01-13 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Eric Selje  wrote:
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> Programming in FoxPro is like putting on a comfortable pair of warm
> slippers.

Not for me! I recently looked at some of the VFP code I wrote that's available 
on the download page, and it seemed almost foreign to me. I haven't had a 
runnable copy of VFP for 12 years, and haven't actively coded in it for 15 
years, and I don't think I could maintain that code any longer.


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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2020-01-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 3, 2020, at 06:46, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
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> Not much traffic on ProPython. Google for the Python Tutor email list and the 
> Python (.org) email list and join those. Stackoverflow also carries a lot of 
> Python traffic.

Yes, ProPython was started because of a high number of email from ProFox people 
interested in Python. Since then, though, those who stuck with Python have 
found countless other resources, and traffic on ProPython has dried up. Same 
with the ProLinux list.

For Python, I’d suggest the main python.org list: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

2019-12-30 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 30, 2019, at 13:49, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
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> ***I'm eagerly waiting the Python edition.***

He’s not Ted, but this is still a pretty awesome reference book:

https://www.amazon.com/Doug-Hellmann/e/B004GP6IGU%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Doug-Hellmann/e/B004GP6IGU?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share>


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Re: [NF] TeamViewer alternatives

2019-12-21 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:48 AM, AndyHC  wrote:
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>  and on the topic of VPNs - check this out - *https://tinyurl.com/sxca8fd

I've been very happy with OpenVPN - no worries about unknown sources!

https://openvpn.net/


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Re: [NF] X# Bandol 2.2 released to the public

2019-12-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 17, 2019, at 15:54, Ricardo Araoz  wrote:
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> So now I may post about Argentine's politics in this forum... and in Spanish!

Sure! Just remember to label it with [OT].


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Re: [NF] X# Bandol 2.2 released to the public

2019-12-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 17, 2019, at 04:18, Koen Piller  wrote:
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> I would appreciate if you would stop hitchhike your messages on other
> forums.
> I have now received for the third time a message that a new version is
> launched, I strongly advise you to open a mailservice dedicated to X# and
> leave Foxite, Level Extreme, ProFox, TekTips (did I forget one) alone.

These messages are appropriate for a FoxPro audience, and are thus appropriate 
here. They are correctly labeled with [NF], since it is not about Fox per se. 
If I had a product that might be of use to FoxPro developers, I would be sure 
to post about it in every relevant forum.

And, as others have pointed out, it’s a simple matter to create a filter, or 
you can do what I do: press the Delete key.

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Re: File Sync

2019-11-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Frank Cazabon  wrote:
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> Alan posted this earlier:
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/robocopy

When you live in the Windows bubble, you miss out on so many wonderful things.

rsync has been a standard in the *nix world for many decades, and it does one 
thing really well. I can't imagine having to rely on a bunch of proprietary 
tools to accomplish such a basic utility.


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