Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?

2004-08-26 Thread Indrek Rebane
Brian Guralnick wrote:
Stay away from Matrox, unless you will be sticking with good old win2k.
Why is that? Can you explain? My P650 works great, with XP.
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Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?

2004-08-26 Thread Buckley.Dave
I'm using an nVidia Quadro FX 500.
No problems so far.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Joe Sapienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 August 2004 03:53
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?


any feedback on the Nvidia FX 700, been thinking about it and since the
thread is going I thought I'd ask



- Original Message - 
From: Mira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?


 I know some PCAD users who have been complaining from
 Radeon 9600 video card.
 It may not be just Protel's problem.

 I'm using nVidia GeForce4 MX and it serves me well.

 Mira

 --- bob stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm using the RADEON 9600 dual head also, and I do
  have video problems
  occasionally. I don't think it's the card though,
  more likely protel bugs.
  For example, in the design rules window the minimum
  clearance constraint
  value is obscured by the text next to (on top of)
  it. I've seen this sort of
  thing in several other areas as well. None of them
  are show stoppers, but
  they are annoying.
 
  Bob Stephens
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:45 PM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?
 
  Agree with nVidia, they are working quite well. I
  used GeForce 440MX 64MB
  and was more than happy. Then I changed to Radeon
  9600 128MB dual head that
  was much faster. Both running without any problems.
 
  Cheers,
  Igor
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 3:22 PM
  To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?
 
 
  Hi Linden,
 
  To date, all of the machines I've used for Protel
  have run nVidia based
  cards without a problem.
 
  I've used the following cards, and all ran without
  hiccups:
 
  nVidia Vanta 16mb (not enough memory for anything
  other than a small design)
  nVidia GeForce 2 32Mb (still not quite enough
  memory)
  nVidia GeForce 4 MX 64Mb
  nVidia GeForce 4 MX 128Mb
  nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128Mb (in current machine)
 
  None have had dual outputs, but you can easily set
  up dual outputs in WinXP
  with a second PCI video card. (See my post Multiple
  Displays a month or so
  ago).
 
  TC
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Linden Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 2:28 PM
  To: PEDA
  Subject: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?
 
  Greetings all,
 
  I have heard that some brands of video cards can
  show problems when running
  Protel.
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations as to whose
  video boards work well and
  those I should steer clear of?
 
  I'm not after the latest and greatest video gamers
  mega-card just something
  that will reliably display Protel PCBs and
  Schematics preferably upgradable
  to a dual monitor setup (either a board with 2
  outputs or the ability to
  operate with 2 seperate boards)
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Linden Doyle
  Product Development Engineer
  Zener Electric Pty Ltd.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[PEDA] Net with large clearance and polygon

2004-08-26 Thread Cam Andruik
Help please.
I want to set the net EARTH to have a clearance of 97mil.  This is no
problem, but when I place a EARTH net Polygon Pour it stays away from
everything, including the EARTH Through Hole Pads by 97mils.
Cannot figure out how to edit the rules so the Polygon will stay away from
all nets by 97mils except EARTH net which should default to the rule for
polygon clearance of 12mil.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


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Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?

2004-08-26 Thread Brian Guralnick
Why do you say that? I use Matrox video cards almost exclusively for my
workstations and have never had a problem with the drivers or hardware
and their dualhead operation is the best I've run across so far. I do
use Win2K for my own systems, but I have built a few for other people
with WinXP and not had any troubles... so I guess I'm curious.
Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems
Also, keep in mind that Matrox flopped with their 3D capabilities being too 
slow  expensive compared to the competition, their new focus is solely on 
their real time broadcast video editing  switching.  In the downsizing, the 
no longer have the same development team they use to have.  Don't expect 
them to address 2D desktop driver related issues as fast as NVidia.


Brian Guralnick
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From: Matt Pobursky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:48:38 -0400, Brian Guralnick wrote:
Stay away from Matrox, unless you will be sticking with good old
win2k.
Why do you say that? I use Matrox video cards almost exclusively for my
workstations and have never had a problem with the drivers or hardware
and their dualhead operation is the best I've run across so far. I do
use Win2K for my own systems, but I have built a few for other people
with WinXP and not had any troubles... so I guess I'm curious.
Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems




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Re: [PEDA] 99SE layout question

2004-08-26 Thread Jon Elson

Daniel Weiss wrote:
Hi
The 99SE PCB layout program seems to *not* DRC a power supply layer. I am
asking on behalf of our layout man, is there a way to have it do a proper
DRC on power layers as well? It happend to us that two power supplies got
shorted because the gap width between them was inadvertently set to zero.
 

It does do a check on power layers, but there is a deficiency in the 
algorithm
when it comes to holes that are partially in the border between split plane
regions.  Normally, I think you DO get some kind of complaint if split plane
regions OVERLAP, but maybe the same problem occurs when the regions are
extremely close.

I think it is pretty well known that the handling of through holes 
connecting to
split planes is not 100% airtight, and so you have to watch out for design
practices that allow you to fall into these traps.

(Been there, done that a few times, myself.)
Jon

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Re: [PEDA] Net with large clearance and polygon

2004-08-26 Thread Ian Capps
In Your clearance rule properties try changing your rule attributes to
different nets only (99SE).

Ian Capps
- Original Message - 
From: Cam Andruik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:55 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Net with large clearance and polygon


 Help please.
 I want to set the net EARTH to have a clearance of 97mil.  This is no
 problem, but when I place a EARTH net Polygon Pour it stays away from
 everything, including the EARTH Through Hole Pads by 97mils.
 Cannot figure out how to edit the rules so the Polygon will stay away from
 all nets by 97mils except EARTH net which should default to the rule for
 polygon clearance of 12mil.
 Any suggestions greatly appreciated.






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