Re: [PEDA] AW: via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread Michael Schmitt
What do we want ? we want the copper of the vias being covered with the solder mask but the via holes open. I add a solder mask expansion design rule that simply says the rules attribut is -Minimum_Annular_Ring (what i use for the vias 10mil). This means that the copper is covered but the hole is

[PEDA] AW: via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread Florian Finsterbusch
The right theme at the right time! At the start of the week i was confronted with the same kind of problem. The manufacturer of our multilayer-PCB send us the following statement: "There are no clearances for some of the .0118 via holes on top and bottom solder mask layers. Plugging/Tenting bot

Re: [PEDA] via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
so what was the pad size? 32 ? (22+5+5) Dennis Saputelli ICT Mail wrote: > Ivan, we have found that the best solution is PARTIAL TENTING. > ie You need to cover the annular ring with mask but leave the hole free. > This allows the via to be flushed of any residual etching chemicals and will >

Re: [PEDA] via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread DUTTON Phil
Hello Ivan, I find the technique that Leon described, of partial tenting, or via encroachment works well. Applying a negative solder mask clearance to the vias of a value that will cover the land of the via, but not the hole. If you are worried about solder travelling up the vias and forming sold

Re: [PEDA] via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread Harry Selfridge
"Tenting" is covering the pad and hole with solder mask. "Plugging" the via is a much more expensive operation, and is not generally done unless one is worried about wicking solder away from joints such as BGA balls, or the via is plugged and surface plated to accommodate a spring loaded cont

Re: [PEDA] via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread ICT Mail
Ivan, we have found that the best solution is PARTIAL TENTING. ie You need to cover the annular ring with mask but leave the hole free. This allows the via to be flushed of any residual etching chemicals and will still fill if wave soldered. Depending on your fabricator and process allowance, typi

[PEDA] via tenting question

2001-09-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I am wondering what to do about vias. I have a design for an 8-layer 0.090 in. PCB with about 700-800 vias 32mil pad, 18mil hole (no BGAs). Since the vias can be very close (6 mil) to other vias and pads, I want to cover the vias with either soldermask or tent them. What is the dif

Re: [PEDA] 484 pin 1mm FBGA footprint needed

2001-09-12 Thread Harry Selfridge
Take a look at Protel knowledge base item 2215 ( http://www.protel.com/kb/default.asp ). I was able to open the Altera Gerbers in CAMtastic, save them to new files, edit the comment fields out (G04 coded lines), and then import them into Protel 99SE (with SP6). If you really need the Altera f

Re: [PEDA] Autorouting Problems

2001-09-12 Thread G. Allbee
Bob: I hear ya loud and clear. I am an old Tango Dos user and I have also used just about every other CAD program under the sun over the last 15 years, but really when Protel is setup the way you want and you stick with the same procedures then it runs very smooth. I have just completed 2 more d

Re: [PEDA] Autorouting Problems

2001-09-12 Thread G. Allbee
Brad: Yes, I used both multilayer lines and arcs but I changed them all to my mechanical layer 4 and then no more problems so I am not sure exactly if it was just the arcs or both the arcs and lines. Regards, Gary Allbee Alta Industrial Automation Ltd www.aialtd.com > Gary, > I don't use the auto

Re: [PEDA] Autorouting Problems

2001-09-12 Thread Brad Velander
Gary, I don't use the autorouter at all but I have to ask about your multilayer lines. Were any segments of these lines actually arcs? Like at the ends of your slot? The Protel autorouter does not like arcs, I don't know the exact connotation of that statement but on numerous occasions the

Re: [PEDA] Autorouting Problems

2001-09-12 Thread Bob Wolfe
Gary, Very interesting, I had a similar situation, (before I found this forum) where the autorouter would just not run, still don't know why, it was very early in the design stage and I was just testing out the system so not being able to resolve it I started from scratch (it was a simple board).