Re: [PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks?
Hi Ian, I suspect that we could fairly readily make a cut-down version of the server that just inverted the current selection - but it would only invert fairly standard entities like components, tracks, pads, vias etc. Polygons were a little difficult from memory but I think we had them solved (but only if we cleared the undo stack). Geoff and I were having discussions on the best method of dealing with fills - but I think these were solved as well. Things like rules and layer stack-up, blind and buried vias etc would *not* be handled correctly - the user would need to patch these manually. I'm not sure to right understand: do you explain that you could distribute a simplified version of your add-on server? I don't need the polygons, only the ability to flip components, tracks, pads and multilayer vias. Geoff Harland and I were co-operating on a server that would invert a board. We ran into problems that, though probably possible to solve would have taken way too much volunteer effort. So we have let it pretty much stop. A time limited beta version was released to see if there was much interest. There has not been much interest. I would say that maybe 6 or so people have expressed much interest in such a server. So Geoff and I have not been pushing at it. About the problem of interest, I think people search for add-ons only when they need them (like myself...), so it's difficult to quickly answer to a query are you interested It would be perhaps good to create a web-page about add-on projects, not only ask people on the forum (unfortunately I don't have time to read all the messages, and if I had I would spend much because it's not my mother's language...) Thank you for your support Jean-Christophe Meylan * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks?
-Message d'origine- De: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 6 mars 2002 11:27 : Protel EDA Forum Objet: Re: [PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks? I'm not sure to right understand: do you explain that you could distribute a simplified version of your add-on server? I don't need the polygons, only the ability to flip components, tracks, pads and multilayer vias. Yes - a simplified version could be created but does not exist. :-( What does it mean really? Are you ready to create this add-on? I had I would spend much because it's not my mother's language...) Jean-Christophe, your english is much better than my french. I can understand you not reading all the posts; dealing in languages that you are not able to think in is very tiring. Thank you, you are fair! I am sorry that there is no simple answer to your query. Right, I am a little bit confused Should I forget about the idea to get a solution to my query by an add-on and resolve it manually? Jean-Christophe * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks?
Hi, What is the best methode to flip a part of the PCB (ie the tracks and components of a voltage regulator) from a side to an another? I select components and tracks, but I don't know how to flip the whole on the other side (either in X ou Y)... Has anyone a solution? Thank for your help Jean-Christophe Meylan _ Jean-Christophe Meylan Valtronic SA CH-1343 Les Charbonni res Phone ++41 21 841 01 96, FAX ++41 21 841 01 65 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.valtronic.ch * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks?
Thank you for your explanation Mr. Lomax, you describe exactly my problem (sorry for my poor English' skill...)! Could you explain what is the server written by Mr. Wilson et Al and where can we get it? Jean-Christophe Meylan _ Jean-Christophe Meylan Valtronic SA CH-1343 Les Charbonni res Phone ++41 21 841 01 96, FAX ++41 21 841 01 65 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.valtronic.ch -Message d'origine- De: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mardi 5 mars 2002 22:23 : Protel EDA Forum Objet: Re: [PEDA] Best methode to flip components tracks? At 12:21 PM 3/5/2002 -0800, Dwight wrote: Select them, click hold (as if to move), and press L. This flips them to the opposite side of the board. This does *not* work to accomplish the purpose of the original writer. Yes, the components are flipped to the other side, and top side track will be moved to the bottom, but the relationships will not be properly maintained. Track is just moved without being mirrored. A DIP-8 footprint was mirrored correctly, but the position of pin 1 (the component reference) became the position of pin 8; I imagine that the flip was centered on the extents. They did *not* get this right. We have written extensively about inversion; it is necessary to have a layer chart to accomplish complete inversion, but the majority of applications would be accomplished simply by interchanging top and bottom layers while mirroring them, leaving other layers mirrored but not changed to new layers. That -- if needed -- could then be done manually one layer at a time. Usually it would not be needed. Right now, when a mirror operation (X or Y keys) on a selection includes components, a warning comes up that one is about to mirror a footprint without changing the layer; it then suggests using the L key. But the L key will give an X mirror about the component centroid -- I think -- plus the layer shift. That's fine for an individual component, but not for anything more complex. If it is a union of two parts that is selected, the L key moves both parts to the other side of the board, but their relationship is what results from each part, individually, being mirrored, so the components no longer are in the same relative relationship. Editing the layer attribute of a component performs the same operation as the L key. This is what they should have done. When a component is flipped with the L key, it should have been mirrored on the cursor, not on the component centroid. Likewise, other selected components and primitives would be mirrored on the same reference and axis. I do not know a way to flip a collection of components to the other side of the board, except for the server which Mr. Wilson et al have written. What *ever* gave Protel the idea to mirror the parts on the centroid??? The result is that a footprint floating on the cursor, which normally is floating with the reference point at the cursor, suddenly has some *different* part of the footprint floating on the cursor. I cannot imagine an application for this! It was *harder* to do what they did instead of simply mirroring on the cursor! This should have been fixed long ago Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
