Re: [PEDA] Tasking software
Still no sign of the Tasking software here in Arizona. Mark Richards CAD Designer ON Semiconductor Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 877.435.9233 - Original Message - From: Burt Bicksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: [PEDA] Tasking software Just wondering.. Is anyone else here in the states still waiting for the free Tasking software to show up? Not that it is of extreme value, but still it was promised and I haven't seen it appear yet. Thanks, Burt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP
I've been using Protel under Windows XP for roughly 8 months with no problems to report. I started using Protel with Win XP RC1 back in May or June of 2001. In my experience, Protel is at least as stable under XP as it was under Windows 2000. That includes Spice, PCB, Schematic, CAM, and Print/Preview. I have not used the Signal Integrity, PLD, or 3D Viewer thus far under XP. Cheers, -Mark Richards - Original Message - From: Bob Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP I heard from a friend that Protel won't work on Windows XP. I'm setting up a new computer, and I'd like to run Windows XP if I can. Will it work? Bob Puckette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tripod Data Systems 345 SW Avery Ave Corvallis OR, 97333 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Allegro Translator
[PEDA] Tasking Offer
Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer
Harry, your comments mirror my own suspicions. Right down to the guard dog theory... However, I have to admit that there is little comfort gained in knowing that I'm not the only one thinking along these lines. ; ) Mark Richards - Original Message - From: Harry Selfridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer Nothing received in Anaheim, California, yet either. Someone here speculated when the offer was made that it was little more than a way for Protel to rebuild their poorly kept records of legal owners. It looks suspiciously like the speculation may have been correct. I had to fax a copy of my receipt from years ago to prove that I was a legal owner before I could register for the Tasking tools. This was the fourth time I had to send proof of purchase back to Protel to execute a deal with them. I had to fax my receipts to get them to send version 3.0, again when I upgraded to 98, and to get the upgrade from 99 to 99se. They must keep their files in a jar buried in the back corner of the corporate lot (and the corporate guard dog keeps digging it up and eating the contents). In any event - no Tasking tools here after following directions and registering in November of last year. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Ground Pads
I would like to paste an array of free (through-hole) pads on .1 centers, all attached to GND net. The array of pads covers the entire board area. So far, no problem. What I would like to know is this: Is there a way to automatically remove or select just the pads which end up causing DRC violations? This type of GND via peppering is an engineering requirement, and this is a large, dense board. I am just trying to find some alternative to jumping to each DRC violation and removing the offending pad. Cheers, -- Mark Richards ON Semiconductor 5005 E. McDowell Road Phoenix, Arizona 85008 Phone: 602.244.7267 Pager: 866-208-9913 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Windows XP
This thread is getting to be a bit off-topic, but: In regards to Windows XP licensing, here is the link to the official Microsoft information: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/xp_activation.asp To make a long story short, after installing XP, it must be activated by connecting to Microsoft and allowing them to authenticate your license. Additionally, your access code for the license is a 50-bit number which is generated based on your computer hardware. Therefore, if you have installed and activated Windows XP on your computer system, then you are only allowed to change a certain amount of hardware before your license is no longer valid and XP becomes deactivated. There is more to it, but that's the Cliff Notes version. Mark Richards CAD Designer Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows XP Please excuse my blissful ignorance but what is the problem with the XP licensing scheme? -Original Message- From: Mark Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 8:32 AM To: Protel EDA Forum; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows XP I have been using Protel 99SE with windows XP Professional for about 5 months. I started out with the beta evaluation version of XP. My impression is that it is more stable than Windows 2000, and many times better than Win98. I have done some crude testing, such as opening 6 instances of Protel at once, performing one or two basic operations in each instance, then closing all instances of Protel. Then, I go in to the task manager and check for any lingering signs of Protel. So far, Windows XP has done an excellent job of keeping Protel in check. Performing the same test in Windows 2000 resulted in one or more instances of Client99SE.exe lingering in the task manager, hogging resources. Also, I have seen a reduction in crashes or system lock-up. I would see an average of 1 system crash or lock up each day. I define a crash or lockup as any situation that requires a re-boot of the system. With Windows XP, I have had to re-boot less than one time per week. Although I am uneasy with the licensing scheme of Windows XP, for me it has proven to be a more stable and robust platform for Protel than Windows 2000 or Windows 98. I would really like to hear other experiences with Windows XP. Mark Richards CAD Designer Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 - Original Message - From: Wayne Trow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: [PEDA] Windows XP Hi All Just wondering if anyone uses Protel99SE on WindowsXP ? Are there any problems? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton New Zealand * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors
Hello Francisco, Hewlett Packard (Agilent) has a freeware program on there web site for calculating spiral inductors, as well as certain microwave features. The program is DOS based, but it works very well. It is called AppCAD. I don't recall the exact URL, but I'm sure you can find it if you perform a search on their web site. Hope this helps. Regards, Mark Richards CAD Designer ON Semiconductor Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 Cell: 480.236.1566 - Original Message - From: Francisco Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors Hi list. Does anyone knows how to design and calculate printed circuit RF inductors? Apretiate any info. Thank you. Francisco Simões * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors
Francisco, I found the web site for the AppCAD software for calculation of spiral inductors: http://www.semiconductor.agilent.com/cgi-bin/morpheus/home/home.jsp?mktSeg=W irelesspSection=WirelesssubSection=Wireless Enjoy! Mark Richards CAD Designer ON Semiconductor Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 Cell: 480.236.1566 - Original Message - From: Francisco Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors Hi list. Does anyone knows how to design and calculate printed circuit RF inductors? Apretiate any info. Thank you. Francisco Simões * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the classic DOS version of AppCAD as being capable of calculating spiral inductors. Regards, Mark Richards CAD Designer ON Semiconductor Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 Cell: 480.236.1566 - Original Message - From: matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors there's a new appcad version out (v2.5) which is not posted yet on the agilent website but IS posted for download on the appcad website at: http://www.hp.woodshot.com/ this however does NOT include spiral inductors. If you go down the page and download the old classic version that is the one with spiral inductors and impedance matching . Best Regards, Matt Tudor, MSEE- RF Design Consulting Gigahertz Electronics http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com -Original Message- From: matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors Sorry but Appcad 2.0 doesn't calculate spiral inductors or any kind of inductors. It does calculate microstrip, stripline, slabline, etc but not filters, inductors etc. Best Regards, Matt Tudor, MSEE- RF Design Consulting Gigahertz Electronics http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com -Original Message- From: Mark Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors Francisco, I found the web site for the AppCAD software for calculation of spiral inductors: http://www.semiconductor.agilent.com/cgi-bin/morpheus/home/home.jsp?mktSeg= W irelesspSection=WirelesssubSection=Wireless Enjoy! Mark Richards CAD Designer ON Semiconductor Phone: 602.244.7267 Fax: 602.244.6716 Pager: 866.208.9913 Cell: 480.236.1566 - Original Message - From: Francisco Simoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: [PEDA] PCB RF Inductors Hi list. Does anyone knows how to design and calculate printed circuit RF inductors? Apretiate any info. Thank you. Francisco Sim es * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Microstrip Corners (or optimal miters)
I would actually prefer using curved traces, unfortunately the simulation software (Ansoft) used by the RF engineer does not like curved transmission lines. Thus, I am forced to use straight sections and 90 degree bends with miters when doing RF designs. The RF engineer performs a full EM simulation of my entire design prior to release. The limitation is really with his Ansoft software : ( Thomas wrote: Do you really need microstrip corners when protel can lay curved (fixed width) tracks? Don't want to teach you to suck eggs, but in case you don't know: Try hitting [Shift]+[Space] a few times when laying tracks to alter the placement mode. Tom. -Original Message- From: Mark Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 4:43 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Microstrip Corners (or optimal miters) -- Mark Richards ON Semiconductor 5005 E. McDowell Road Phoenix, Arizona 85008 Phone: 602.244.7267 Pager: 866-208-9913 -- Mark Richards ON Semiconductor 5005 E. McDowell Road Phoenix, Arizona 85008 Phone: 602.244.7267 Pager: 866-208-9913 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Microstrip Corners (or optimal miters)
Hello all, I have been lurking for about a month, and I have gained a lot of valuable information from the various topics. Now for my question/request: I am now doing a large number of RF and microwave designs. However, I end up spending a lot of time in AutoCAD creating microstrip features such as radial stubs and mitered corners. I then have to import these features in to Protel, which is a tremendous pain in the rear. I was impressed with some of the scripts I have seen on this list, such as the spiral inductor script. Could something similar be done to generate microstrip corners? How about radial stubs? The basic formula for the miter is: L = pi(W/4), where L is the length of the 45degree miter segment, and W is the width of the microstrip or transmission line. I have no knowledge of Client Basic or Delphi, or I might give it a go myself. For the radial stub, the length of the stub is basically 1/2 wavelength of the target frequency, and the angle of the stub can be arbitrary. The wider the angle, the more broadband the stub. Disclaimer: I am not a RF engineer, so I could be mistaken about some of the facts. However, I gleaned the miter formula and other info from Electronid Equations Handbook, S. Erst, 1989. -- Mark Richards ON Semiconductor 5005 E. McDowell Road Phoenix, Arizona 85008 Phone: 602.244.7267 Pager: 866-208-9913 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Surface Mount Boards
Norb, By the way, when I suggested 0805 footprints, I was not taking in to consideration voltage or power requirements. Be sure that ANY component and footprint is acceptable for the voltage and power before designing it in to your PCB. Regards, -- Mark Richards ON Semiconductor 5005 E. McDowell Road Phoenix, Arizona 85008 Phone: 602.244.7267 Pager: 866-208-9913 Back, Norb wrote: Hi All Today is the fist time for a surface mount board. Which is the most common footprint used for resisters 603,805,1206 ? The chip I am using uses a SOIC-8 footprint * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
