Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Yup, On Win2KPro. Same here and random, it does hang, and lately sometimes it even blows you out of Protel while compacting and does not complete the compact so I have to do it manually. But so far no show stopper just very annoying. Bob Wolfe - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic Steve, just for Roger's or your reference, I always close the open DDBs, shut down P99SE SP6, still I have the hung Protel if I check task manager. Not that often but a few times per week. The usual way that I find this is when I logout shutdown at the end of the day and I get a message stating that P99SE SP6 is still running, do I want to close it now. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic In a message dated 9/3/2002 2:57:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the behaviour of P99SE on Win2k is not that uncommon. I have the hanging P99SE on close (application does not shut down completely) randomly and I know others have mentioned it on the listserver. Does not seem to be a show stopper to anyone though. I'm running 99SE SP6 on W2K. I have seen the hang on shutdown many times, but now I make sure I always close all open designs first (alt-F D) and then close Protel, and I don't have any problem. Steve Hendrix * Tracking #: 1B239D895B925E4EAFD05E476681B299FB24C984 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
On 09:08 PM 3/09/2002 -0400, Robert M. Wolfe said: Yup, On Win2KPro. Same here and random, it does hang, and lately sometimes it even blows you out of Protel while compacting and does not complete the compact so I have to do it manually. But so far no show stopper just very annoying. Bob Wolfe Win2k SP2 here and I have not had Protel hang on shutdown for a very long time. (Actually haven't had Protel crash for ages either). PIII-450 (yes, a dinosaur) (you should see DXP run on this!) 256M RAM 100BaseT network Matrox G550 Canon Inkjet printer locally A number of network (shared) printers on other computers or set to dump to FILE: CDRW (with the dreaded Roxio software, Easy CD Creator 4) Office 2000 (with FP and Access installed) Adobe Acrobat 4.05 (Distiller and Maker both installed) McAfee Virus Scan on but I thought I had turned off file scanning (on open/create/modify etc) but I just checked and inbound files are auto scanned - this means any file modified or copied by this or other computer id scanned on the fly. In the past I have found McAfee causes Protel to hang if the file scanning options are enabled. (Don't you hate the cutesy HTML style look of the new McAfee and Norton virus scanners!) Machine is on 24/7 with occasional shutdowns when I am going away or am installing new hardware (maybe once every month or so). Protel is shutdown and restarted about once a day when I am Protelling. I do *not* bother closing DDBs before closing usually - since I do not have a problem with closing down. Dunno what MDAC drivers I have, but they have been updated somewhere along the line. MySQL is installed as is buckets of dev tools (MS and Borland) etc etc etc. If someone lets me know how to find the MDAC drivers I can post them. In Protel I use -Sch, SchLib, PCB, PCBLib, SIM, Text Edit, CamManager. I use Access-format DDBs. P99SE SP6. Compact on close is enabled. That is about it. There is probably a method of dumping a machine configuration and then those unfortunate souls having problems may be able to try to determine the differences. Actually, Altium should try to get as many of these dumps and ratings of stability and try to determine why their program shows the huge variation in stability that us users see. I do run the Windows update service every so often (every couple of weeks) and get the next few Mbytes of security patches. Ian Wilson * Tracking #: 0E8DF04121A1F34EBF50E8F46691D46369C179B9 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Microsoft has an MDAC component checker utility that will analyse your machine to determine the MDAC version: http://download.microsoft.com/download/dasdk/CC/2.7/WIN98MeXP/EN-US/cc.exe All of the different versions of MDAC can be downloaded from: http://www.microsoft.com/data/download.htm#CCinfo John Williams - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic ... Dunno what MDAC drivers I have, but they have been updated somewhere along the line. MySQL is installed as is buckets of dev tools (MS and Borland) etc etc etc. If someone lets me know how to find the MDAC drivers I can post them. ... * Tracking #: 43DFC7369B3BA643AFA020ACBD12043053A3C569 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Most other app's work with win2k So now I like WIN-2000, but this EDA doesn't P99 frequently hangs on shutdown Camtastic gives this strange insufficient memory error when I print (I only have 512 meg) My spectra 8 dongle won't work under 2k. I now constantly dual-boot to WIN98 Has anyone got fixes - the spectra8 is most annoying .. but I have no $$$ Roger * Tracking #: ABF00E80EAD6DD4CBB6252E73310A2ACDC6F85A7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Roger, I've been running Protel 99 SE on a Win2K system for over 2 years without any kind of glitch, Same for Camtastic 99 and then Camtastic 2000 DE. I have seen none of the problems you indicate. Can't speak for Spectra Joe - Original Message - From: Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic Most other app's work with win2k So now I like WIN-2000, but this EDA doesn't P99 frequently hangs on shutdown Camtastic gives this strange insufficient memory error when I print (I only have 512 meg) My spectra 8 dongle won't work under 2k. I now constantly dual-boot to WIN98 Has anyone got fixes - the spectra8 is most annoying .. but I have no $$$ Roger * Tracking #: ABF00E80EAD6DD4CBB6252E73310A2ACDC6F85A7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Roger, I had the same problems with W2K when using 2 Canon printers, one on the network and one on my desktop. I was able to get an updated driver that solved the memory problem with the networked printer. I was never able to resolve the problem with the desktop printer and susequently replaced it with an HP. The printer problem did not arise until after installing SP2 for W2K. Hope this helps. Rick Barry -Original Message- From: Joe Sapienza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:49 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic Roger, I've been running Protel 99 SE on a Win2K system for over 2 years without any kind of glitch, Same for Camtastic 99 and then Camtastic 2000 DE. I have seen none of the problems you indicate. Can't speak for Spectra Joe - Original Message - From: Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic Most other app's work with win2k So now I like WIN-2000, but this EDA doesn't P99 frequently hangs on shutdown Camtastic gives this strange insufficient memory error when I print (I only have 512 meg) My spectra 8 dongle won't work under 2k. I now constantly dual-boot to WIN98 Has anyone got fixes - the spectra8 is most annoying .. but I have no $$$ Roger * Tracking #: ABF00E80EAD6DD4CBB6252E73310A2ACDC6F85A7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
There are LOTS of people running P99 on W2K. It's something specific to your system. I know that's not a lot of help, but at least it lets you know you're not trying to do something that's impossible. (like running P99 on DOS for example) My spectra dongle worked on W2K. (I say worked because I'm now using XP Pro) I had to get some updated flexlm driver from the web. It's a real b*tch to setup. You have to do it with admin rights, and then make sure the daemon is loaded properly. I wish they had a s/w key system like protel. It's very easy to use, and while it doesn't prevent theft, it does attach the ID to the user, and it would be extremely foolish for a user to give out their key codes. IF this message shows up, I'll know we are being censored. (I didn't have the * in it the first time) -Original Message- From: Roger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:32 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic Most other app's work with win2k So now I like WIN-2000, but this EDA doesn't P99 frequently hangs on shutdown Camtastic gives this strange insufficient memory error when I print (I only have 512 meg) My spectra 8 dongle won't work under 2k. I now constantly dual-boot to WIN98 Has anyone got fixes - the spectra8 is most annoying .. but I have no $$$ Roger * Tracking #: F462EF7ADE2BC647830DF9EAE7181D81ECE68557 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic
Steve, just for Roger's or your reference, I always close the open DDBs, shut down P99SE SP6, still I have the hung Protel if I check task manager. Not that often but a few times per week. The usual way that I find this is when I logout shutdown at the end of the day and I get a message stating that P99SE SP6 is still running, do I want to close it now. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN2000 vs P99 vs Spectra vs Camtastic In a message dated 9/3/2002 2:57:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the behaviour of P99SE on Win2k is not that uncommon. I have the hanging P99SE on close (application does not shut down completely) randomly and I know others have mentioned it on the listserver. Does not seem to be a show stopper to anyone though. I'm running 99SE SP6 on W2K. I have seen the hang on shutdown many times, but now I make sure I always close all open designs first (alt-F D) and then close Protel, and I don't have any problem. Steve Hendrix * Tracking #: 1B239D895B925E4EAFD05E476681B299FB24C984 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
