[PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Robison Michael R CNIN


Hello,

We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at all.  Beyond recommending to management to buy these
fairly stable versions (with the service packs) and warning
them away from the new, uncertain, and costly DXP, I didn't 
pay a lot of attention to the gory details.

Now I've got a white box on my desk and inside is a thin
manual called INTRODUCING PROTEL DXP, along with a multi-
media demo cd and what appears to be a copy of Protel DXP.

But I didn't buy DXP... Did anybody else get what I got with-
out buying it?  I notice that there aren't any registration
numbers for it.  Are they expecting me to naively go thru
the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?  

Thanks, miker



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Re: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Dennis Saputelli

the reg will come in the mail
i would say you probably have a full licensed copy that was part of the
deal you got

Dennis Saputelli


Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
 Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
 a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
 that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
 at all.  Beyond recommending to management to buy these
 fairly stable versions (with the service packs) and warning
 them away from the new, uncertain, and costly DXP, I didn't
 pay a lot of attention to the gory details.
 
 Now I've got a white box on my desk and inside is a thin
 manual called INTRODUCING PROTEL DXP, along with a multi-
 media demo cd and what appears to be a copy of Protel DXP.
 
 But I didn't buy DXP... Did anybody else get what I got with-
 out buying it?  I notice that there aren't any registration
 numbers for it.  Are they expecting me to naively go thru
 the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
 number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
 ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
 ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?
 
 Thanks, miker
 
 
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Re: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Cliff Gerhard

Hi Mike:

If you purchased the SE99 seats less than a year ago, you got 1 year free
ATS with each seat, which means you get a free upgrade to DXP.  I did the
same and just got my copy of DXP too.

The CD Codes will come in the mail separately. I got mine the day after the
software came.  I did waste about a an hour searching my desk looking for
the codes before someone on this list informed me that they would come
separate.  I guess it is printed somewhere, but I never found it.

Regards,

Cliff

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Subject: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?



Hello,

We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at all.  Beyond recommending to management to buy these
fairly stable versions (with the service packs) and warning
them away from the new, uncertain, and costly DXP, I didn't
pay a lot of attention to the gory details.

Now I've got a white box on my desk and inside is a thin
manual called INTRODUCING PROTEL DXP, along with a multi-
media demo cd and what appears to be a copy of Protel DXP.

But I didn't buy DXP... Did anybody else get what I got with-
out buying it?  I notice that there aren't any registration
numbers for it.  Are they expecting me to naively go thru
the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?

Thanks, miker



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Re: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 02:36 PM 8/13/2002 -0500, Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at all.

It is unlikely that such deals would not include ATS, unless it was 
purchased before the cut-off date, which was last year, I forget exactly when.

All the deals of which I am aware would have included ATS. If this was some 
very special deal that explicitly excluded upgrade rights and ATS, that 
would be a different story.

You can easily call Altium and find out


Are they expecting me to naively go thru
the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?

No and No, I don't think so.

First of all, with the exception of free licenses that Protel has 
occasionally dispersed, say, to employees, any licensed copy of 99SE is 
eligible for upgrade. The upgrade price, right now, is $1995, it is 
certainly not $7000.

And if the copy was purchased (or obtained as an upgrade to 99SE) after the 
cutoff date last year, it included one year of ATS; to my knowledge all 
these licenses receive DXP for free.

If you bought a used license, generally that would not include ATS, 
*unless* it was originally purchased or upgraded to 99SE after the cutoff date.



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Re: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Jon Elson

Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:

 We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
 Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
 a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
 that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not


 I notice that there aren't any registration
 numbers for it.  Are they expecting me to naively go thru
 the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
 number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
 ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
 ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?

Most certainly, you wouldn't pay the full $7000 to upgrade,
that is the new customer price.  They discount everything
if you are already a customer of a previous product.

Jon



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Re: [PEDA] DXP software mistake ?

2002-08-13 Thread Clive . Broome



Well Protel sent me a flyer for P99SE training this week! - of course it had the
usual stuff
about places being limited so book early. Yeah sure.








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Hello,

We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while.  I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at all.  Beyond recommending to management to buy these
fairly stable versions (with the service packs) and warning
them away from the new, uncertain, and costly DXP, I didn't
pay a lot of attention to the gory details.

Now I've got a white box on my desk and inside is a thin
manual called INTRODUCING PROTEL DXP, along with a multi-
media demo cd and what appears to be a copy of Protel DXP.

But I didn't buy DXP... Did anybody else get what I got with-
out buying it?  I notice that there aren't any registration
numbers for it.  Are they expecting me to naively go thru
the entire installation just to find out I don't have a reg
number, and then throw up my arms in surrender and immedi-
ately send them a check for $7000 (or whatever they're charg-
ing for it now)?  Or has there been some sort of mistake?

Thanks, miker



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