[PEDA] EDIF/PLD software
Greetings, Has anyone ever used a Protel EDIF netlist with Xilinx's Foundation, Altera's Quartus, or any other PLD software? Are only certain types of components usable to import the netlist successfully? Thank you for your time, Nicholas S. Piccinich Blackhawk Management Corporation 1324 Wyckoff Road Wall Township, New Jersey 07753-6800 TEL # (732)919-3090 ext. 22 FAX # (732)919-3096 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software
Jon Ron, The Xilinx representative said it was not possible to import an EDIF netlist unless I used device specific architecture of the target device, which I did not do. I am going to make modules in Foundation of the parts I used in the Protel design to see if it helps import the netlist. Did you try this or think it would work? Are you using Foundation ISE or 3.1i? Does ISE support ABEL-HDL? Nick -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 3:37 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software Nicholas Piccinich wrote: Greetings, Has anyone ever used a Protel EDIF netlist with Xilinx's Foundation, Altera's Quartus, or any other PLD software? Are only certain types of components usable to import the netlist successfully? I tried to do some development using P99SE, aimed at a Xilinx FPGA. I did get as far as simulation, but when I tried to get that compiled into downloadable form, I hit a brick wall. I got a variety of files, Xilinx .XNF files, VHDL files, etc. But, I was never able to get Xilinx's free tools to accept any of these files. I eventually gave up, and bought the Xilinx Foundation, and did all my work in that, although their schematic tools are hideous, and the rest of the interface is just a little klunky. But, Foundation works, and produces FPGA and CPLD designs that work precisely the way the simulation says they will. Jon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software
Nicholas Piccinich wrote: Jon Ron, The Xilinx representative said it was not possible to import an EDIF netlist unless I used device specific architecture of the target device, which I did not do. I imported a Xilinx 3000 library. which seems to be structurally the same as the Spartan (XCS) gate arrays. I think I got these from Protel Adv Sch for Windows, which was the last Protel version that had internal schematics for the parts. Unfortunately, they were automatically translated from somebody else's schematics, and the translation had systematic errors, namely the omission of some junction dots, which left most of the FFs unclocked. I fixed the parts I was using, and then hit the bad EDIF format problem. I am going to make modules in Foundation of the parts I used in the Protel design to see if it helps import the netlist. Did you try this or think it would work? I doubt it will work, as the EDIF file is rejected with syntax errors. I looked at the file produced by Protel, and though I am no expert on EDIF, I believe it DID have errors that violate the spec of the language. I sent a report to Protel almost a year ago, and got no response. Are you using Foundation ISE or 3.1i? Does ISE support ABEL-HDL? I was using Foundation 2.1i at the time. Jon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software
Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software
Do you happen to know what the name of Protel's Library Mapping File (LMF) is? I asked Protel support last summer, and never got a response. It could be helpful for importing a Protel EDIF netlist into other programs? Otherwise, I'll have to recreate the design in the software I choose. Any known egroups for Xilinx or Altera Software? Thanks Jon, Ron, Rich for all your helpful info, Nick -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] EDIF/PLD software Nicholas Piccinich wrote: Jon Ron, The Xilinx representative said it was not possible to import an EDIF netlist unless I used device specific architecture of the target device, which I did not do. I imported a Xilinx 3000 library. which seems to be structurally the same as the Spartan (XCS) gate arrays. I think I got these from Protel Adv Sch for Windows, which was the last Protel version that had internal schematics for the parts. Unfortunately, they were automatically translated from somebody else's schematics, and the translation had systematic errors, namely the omission of some junction dots, which left most of the FFs unclocked. I fixed the parts I was using, and then hit the bad EDIF format problem. I am going to make modules in Foundation of the parts I used in the Protel design to see if it helps import the netlist. Did you try this or think it would work? I doubt it will work, as the EDIF file is rejected with syntax errors. I looked at the file produced by Protel, and though I am no expert on EDIF, I believe it DID have errors that violate the spec of the language. I sent a report to Protel almost a year ago, and got no response. Are you using Foundation ISE or 3.1i? Does ISE support ABEL-HDL? I was using Foundation 2.1i at the time. Jon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
