Just my 2c worth on this. I guess it all depends on what you want.
If you are building from scratch, I'd look at:
- Antec for the case and power supply. (
http://www.antec-inc.com/en_perf_plushome.html )
(A hefty 400-430W power supply and lots of case fans to help keep things
cool and reliable. Have a look at their SOHO line)
- Asus, Abit (or Intel) for motherboards.
I think that if a system board has been shown to run reliably at some
percentage over it's specified clock speed, that is an indication of how
reliable the system is going to be at it's (lower) rated normal speed. Reliability
seems key here, so I'd not completely dismiss a gamer's
overclocking review, for this reason.
(ok, ok, so I play some Descent in my spare time, but I don't overclock!!)
---Phil
-Original Message-
From: Mike Ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:53 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fastest possible Protel system, price is not a
concern.
I would guess that your money on Protel would go the furthest
with a lower
cost motherboard and LOTS of memory and plenty of display
space. Cut those
pans. dual display?? triple display ??matrox g550 is working
nicely here
on 2 diplays.
The above is poor advise. In fact, it is the definition of poor advise. No
offense intended, but the motherboard is just about the most important
component in a computer workstation, and definitely not the kind of
component that should be offed to the golly, them don't matter much'n,
anyways category in a technical venue such as this, by technical
professionals like the average PEDA subscriber. If a consumer is about to
plunk down eight thousand dollars or so (US) on a niche market program like
Protel EDA, (or if the consumer already has...) and the consumer expects to
be productive, maximize profits, and minimize headaches and downtime, then
the consumer had better think long and hard before subscribing to the
WalMart Computing model, especially when it comes to critical components
like the motherboard. It is not unreasonable to expect that the user should
consider a cost of around $2500-3000 for the entire system (monitor
included), if he/she specifies the components and takes the time to get fair
price, perhaps 25% more if the task is delegated to a trust-worthy
middle-man operation. It should not be surprising either to accept that a
decent motherboard is going to cost you somewhere around $200-300 (US) (and
up)
Http://www.Supermicro.com is one area that Brian might want to investigate,
if Brain is interested in performance-level multi-processor motherboards.
Not a company poo-hooed by the gamer set, I know, because their designs
aren't all that friendly to over-clocking geeks, but then, as professional
engineers, PCB designers, and the like, most of us don't really have time to
be pissing around with such trivial and tertiary pursuits at work anyway...
2p+,
aj
BG Finally,
BG The first post here that makes some real sense. I have a serious contract to
work on. Tony was right -(You must have quoted
BG someone a flat rate on a big job??? :)) I did. I do not wish to be late on the
job, or, cut corners to save time. Repeat
BG business here
BG would be a big + to my bank account. :)
BG This is not the first time I had a contract to re-do an existing PCBs because
of a sloppy, auto-routed design that was plagued
BG with manufacturing odd functional problems which differed from board to board.
BG Impressed with my existing manual layout work, I've been contracted to manual
re-route a huge board. Personally, this is not my
BG favorite
BG type of work, but, the $$$ I'll be making is well worth a professional system
which should glide through all of the aspects of the
BG PCB design.
BG It's sad however, If Protel were to fix the auto-pan, I mean, really do it
properly, I might be tempted to work with my existing
BG Dual 1GHz system, but, system performance affects many other things like,
re-building polygons, DRC, push shove routing,
BG auto-backups, and ect...
BG
BG Brian Guralnick
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