Re: [PEDA] Using library

2002-07-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic

See the inserts.

Igor

-Original Message-
From: Ferdinando Bignamini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2002 5:07 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Using library


Hi,
I've some question about the library system of Protel in a shared evnironment.

A- It's possible to define some global library and local library for a 
project? At now I haven't find a solution...

Yes, you can connect as many libraries to your Protel station as you like. Some of 
them might be on the network, some on the local drive. Each Protel station can have 
different libraries connected. You could also have a library inside your_project.ddb.

B- How It's possible to avoid invalidity of data in a library when tow 
people modify the library at same time...

You could lock the file. That means that only one person at the time has write 
privileges to the file. We only allow write privileges to our main library to the 
administrator.

It's better there's only one person who can modifying the library in the 
work group and all the other
modify a local library and after all they ask them to upgrading the global 
library?

That's the way we do it, or rather, quite similar to what we do.

C- It's better we use the M$-Access database format or the Windows File 
system?.

We use Access file format for security and space saving reasons. Access file format 
takes up only a third of the drive space when compacted, compared to the Windows 
format.

D- We have used already the M$-Access database, but some time the files 
being destroyed by Protel (we use Protel 99SE):
have you encountered the same problem? If affermative: have you reach to 
avoid this so strange trouble?

If your database gets corrupted you could do a 'Repair database'. Look into the help 
files or the book.

Thak's in advance.

You are welcome.

ing. Ferdinando Bignamini
INTEA ENGINEERING S.R.L.
Via chiusure 32
25057 Sale Marasino (BS)
ITALY



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Re: [PEDA] Using library

2002-07-15 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann

Ferdinando,


What you are trying to do is about the way we currently are working here. To 
have a halfway proper setup you should choose the database storage system. With 
this system you can setup workgroups with individual logins for each member and 
then are able to (manually) lock (write protect) the files you are working with.

We have a central "library.ddb" database where all common libs are stored. 
Individual components can be defined in librarys within each "design.ddb".

Please see also the comments interspaced below:

> A- It's possible to define some global library and local library for a 
> project? At now I haven't find a solution...


Include the common "library.ddb" with the Add Library-Button and the local libs 
within the ddb.


> B- How It's possible to avoid invalidity of data in a library when tow 
> people modify the library at same time...


With the lock mechanism built in when a workgroup is set up. However it's not a 
very smart implementation and - at least in my eyes - not really usable!


> It's better there's only one person who can modifying the library in 
> the work group and all the other
> modify a local library and after all they ask them to upgrading the 
> global library?


That's exactly how we do it here.


> C- It's better we use the M$-Access database format or the Windows File 
> system?.


Not sure, but I think if you set up a workgroup and like to benefit from the 
file lock mechanism Access database format is a must.


> D- We have used already the M$-Access database, but some time the files 
> being destroyed by Protel (we use Protel 99SE):
> have you encountered the same problem? If affermative: have you reach to 
> avoid this so strange trouble?


We are using the database format since the start of 99SE and - knock on wood - 
never had a data integrity problem. We are running NT4 latest SP, maybe that 
with W95/W98/ME such problems can rise up. I'm sure there's another group member 
with more experience in this context.

Regards,
Emanuel


 




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[PEDA] Using library

2002-07-14 Thread Ferdinando Bignamini

Hi,
I've some question about the library system of Protel in a shared evnironment.

A- It's possible to define some global library and local library for a 
project? At now I haven't find a solution...
B- How It's possible to avoid invalidity of data in a library when tow 
people modify the library at same time...
It's better there's only one person who can modifying the library in the 
work group and all the other
modify a local library and after all they ask them to upgrading the global 
library?
C- It's better we use the M$-Access database format or the Windows File 
system?.
D- We have used already the M$-Access database, but some time the files 
being destroyed by Protel (we use Protel 99SE):
have you encountered the same problem? If affermative: have you reach to 
avoid this so strange trouble?

Thak's in advance.

ing. Ferdinando Bignamini
INTEA ENGINEERING S.R.L.
Via chiusure 32
25057 Sale Marasino (BS)
ITALY



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