Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer..
I can't help with your current problem, I'm sorry to say, but when you finally get it up and running again, you might try CAMTASTIC gerber viewer, we got a copy free with Protel and it seems to works well. It certainly doesn't cause problems with Protel. Hope it comes together for you. TC -Original Message- From: Burt Bicksler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer.. Hi, Not 100% sure yet, but it appears that the ViewMate free Gerber viewer from Lavenir can cause great grief with Protel 99SE (SP6).. I was using PCB Express for quick turn protos, but between the last job I sent them and the previous one they stopped accepting Protel PCB files. So I generated Gerbers and they strongly suggested using the free ViewMate viewer to make sure that the Gerbers would exactly match what they would see. They say that they use ViewMate there. So, I installed ViewMate on the same machine that I'm running Protel 99SE on. This is a Win2K box with 512Megs of RAM. ViewMate worked fine, but when I started Protel it hit an exception loading one of the DDBs I had open. I've had months of error free operation with SE99 / SP6 on this machine, so I think it's highly likely that ViewMate screwed up the machine. After working on isolating it I find that Schematic editing is the culprit. Even starting fresh, with no DDB.. If I open a blank schematic document and do something like try to print, Kaboom. I've un/re-installed SP6. No fix. Did a repair installation on Protel 99SE and re-installed SP6.. No fix. Completely un-installed Protel 99SE (and SP6). Deleted all residual 99SE files, e.g. INI, etc. Re-installed 99SE and SP6.. No fix... This is not a corrupted DDB, since I'm starting with a fresh one. About the only thing I can think of is that the ViewMate viewer did something to ODBC that is only impacting the schematic editor, but that seems unlikely. If I just open a DDB with an existing PCB with no schematics open then it doesn't seem to crash. Has anyone else run into a similar problem? If so how did you correct it? If not, consider this a warning that, at least under some conditions, that software from Lavenir may cause you great grief. I've sent e-mail to Lavenir asking them what they muck with during installation, but don't know when I'll hear back from them. I'm hoping that I don't have to nuke Win2K to recover from this, but I suspect that it may come down to it.. Thanks, Burt Bicksler * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer..
Viewmate , Camtastic and CAMCAD (from Router Solutions) all running fine on a dual processor machine with Protel 3 and Protel99SE/SP6 . Not under win2k though , still using NT4/sp6a. Best Regards, Matt Tudor , MSEE Elmar Technologies http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~mariusrf consulting http://www.rfdatacorp.com spread spectrum radio telemetry -Original Message- From: Coleman, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer.. >I can't help with your current problem, I'm sorry to say, but when you >finally get it up and running again, you might try CAMTASTIC gerber viewer, >we got a copy free with Protel and it seems to works well. It certainly >doesn't cause problems with Protel. > >Hope it comes together for you. > >TC > >-Original Message- >From: Burt Bicksler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:04 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers >Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer.. > > >Hi, > >Not 100% sure yet, but it appears that the ViewMate free Gerber viewer from >Lavenir can cause great grief with Protel 99SE (SP6).. > >I was using PCB Express for quick turn protos, but between the last job I >sent them and the previous one they stopped accepting Protel PCB files. So >I generated Gerbers and they strongly suggested using the free ViewMate >viewer to make sure that the Gerbers would exactly match what they would >see. They say that they use ViewMate there. > >So, I installed ViewMate on the same machine that I'm running Protel 99SE >on. This is a Win2K box with 512Megs of RAM. ViewMate worked fine, but >when I started Protel it hit an exception loading one of the DDBs I had >open. I've had months of error free operation with SE99 / SP6 on this >machine, so I think it's highly likely that ViewMate screwed up the machine. > >After working on isolating it I find that Schematic editing is the >culprit. Even starting fresh, with no DDB.. If I open a blank schematic >document and do something like try to print, Kaboom. > >I've un/re-installed SP6. No fix. Did a repair installation on Protel >99SE and re-installed SP6.. No fix. Completely un-installed Protel 99SE >(and SP6). Deleted all residual 99SE files, e.g. INI, etc. Re-installed >99SE and SP6.. No fix... This is not a corrupted DDB, since I'm starting >with a fresh one. About the only thing I can think of is that the ViewMate >viewer did something to ODBC that is only impacting the schematic editor, >but that seems unlikely. > >If I just open a DDB with an existing PCB with no schematics open then it >doesn't seem to crash. > >Has anyone else run into a similar problem? If so how did you correct >it? If not, consider this a warning that, at least under some conditions, >that software from Lavenir may cause you great grief. I've sent e-mail to >Lavenir asking them what they muck with during installation, but don't know >when I'll hear back from them. > >I'm hoping that I don't have to nuke Win2K to recover from this, but I >suspect that it may come down to it.. > >Thanks, >Burt Bicksler > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST >* >* Use the "reply" command in your email program to >* respond to this message. >* >* To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at >* the Association web site. You will need to give the same >* email address you originally used to subscribe (do not >* give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). >* >* Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html >* to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST >* >* Use the "reply" command in your email program to >* respond to this message. >* >* To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at >* the Association web site. You will need to give the same >* email address you originally used to subscribe (do not >* give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). >* >* Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html >* to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/pro
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer..
At 02:43 PM 2/16/01 +, you wrote: >I can't help with your current problem, I'm sorry to say, but when you >finally get it up and running again, you might try CAMTASTIC gerber viewer, > >TC I already had CAMTASTIC, but since the board house suggested that using the same viewer they do would improve the odds of reduced confusion I gave that a try.. I agree CAMTASTIC is quite good. Oh well, I guess that I'll try updating/replacing the ODBC stuff just in case, but if that doesn't work and if uninstalling the ViewMate software doesn't restore things then I'll have to nuke Win2K and start over. Burt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer..
Hello Burt, I'm sorry to hear about your problems. I use Protel 99SE in conjunction with our Lavenir software on a routine basis and to date, I have not experienced any problems. Admittedly, I use our CAMMaster software and not ViewMate, but the core engine for both products is similar. I run Windows NT on a 900 MHz Pentium system with 512 Meg of RAM. While I have not heard of any other cases of our software causing incompatibilities, I will ask our engineers to investigate your report. Please rest assured that if we are the cause of the problem, then we will do whatever we can to correct it. For further clarification, please feel free to contact me directly at 1-800-LAVENIR or through one of the other numbers listed below. Best regards, Max P. Henzi, CEO Lavenir Technology 2440 Estand Way Pleasant Hill, CA 94523 voice: (925) 680-7400 fax: (925) 686-5131 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.lavenir.com -Original Message- From: Burt Bicksler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject:[PROTEL EDA USERS]: Warning on ViewMate free Gerber viewer.. Hi, Not 100% sure yet, but it appears that the ViewMate free Gerber viewer from Lavenir can cause great grief with Protel 99SE (SP6).. I was using PCB Express for quick turn protos, but between the last job I sent them and the previous one they stopped accepting Protel PCB files. So I generated Gerbers and they strongly suggested using the free ViewMate viewer to make sure that the Gerbers would exactly match what they would see. They say that they use ViewMate there. So, I installed ViewMate on the same machine that I'm running Protel 99SE on. This is a Win2K box with 512Megs of RAM. ViewMate worked fine, but when I started Protel it hit an exception loading one of the DDBs I had open. I've had months of error free operation with SE99 / SP6 on this machine, so I think it's highly likely that ViewMate screwed up the machine. After working on isolating it I find that Schematic editing is the culprit. Even starting fresh, with no DDB.. If I open a blank schematic document and do something like try to print, Kaboom. I've un/re-installed SP6. No fix. Did a repair installation on Protel 99SE and re-installed SP6.. No fix. Completely un-installed Protel 99SE (and SP6). Deleted all residual 99SE files, e.g. INI, etc. Re-installed 99SE and SP6.. No fix... This is not a corrupted DDB, since I'm starting with a fresh one. About the only thing I can think of is that the ViewMate viewer did something to ODBC that is only impacting the schematic editor, but that seems unlikely. If I just open a DDB with an existing PCB with no schematics open then it doesn't seem to crash. Has anyone else run into a similar problem? If so how did you correct it? If not, consider this a warning that, at least under some conditions, that software from Lavenir may cause you great grief. I've sent e-mail to Lavenir asking them what they muck with during installation, but don't know when I'll hear back from them. I'm hoping that I don't have to nuke Win2K to recover from this, but I suspect that it may come down to it.. Thanks, Burt Bicksler * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
