Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
Great! They are also integrating the library probably like the integration nightmare in ACCEL.Right now I can create a part, store it, create and copy separate customer libraries, import netlist from other programs, with or without a part assignment. Somehow one of these features will be lost with the new INTEGRATED library.They are attempting to sell software to managers instead of designers. Someone got a bug somewhere along the line that integrated libs are best. Oh did I mention the simplicity of creating a part and not having to play and dick with all of the silly worthless menus afterwards. Like assigning it to CON, or IC like PADS. or stupid prefixes like R or C, U etc like Accel. It means more time to create a part. What could be simpler and faster than create a part, import a netlist that associates the part, the netlist assigns the Ref designator? I don't get it. I'm just a simpleton. The autorouter is welcomed! The lib manager is overhead.That right the name is lib MANAGER, that's all I need is to spend more time managing. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD - Original Message - From: Jim Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter Press release in EE Times- http://www.eetimes.com/story/design/OEG20011210S0059 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
Mike You are right. But does this Integrated library sound like a copy of Pads? You know the all-in-one library, that cant be used. Of course the Manager concept comes from Accel, oh yeah. Sounds like a staight marketing scheme. Bob Fearon Mike Reagan wrote: Great! They are also integrating the library probably like the integration nightmare in ACCEL.Right now I can create a part, store it, create and copy separate customer libraries, import netlist from other programs, with or without a part assignment. Somehow one of these features will be lost with the new INTEGRATED library.They are attempting to sell software to managers instead of designers. Someone got a bug somewhere along the line that integrated libs are best. Oh did I mention the simplicity of creating a part and not having to play and dick with all of the silly worthless menus afterwards. Like assigning it to CON, or IC like PADS. or stupid prefixes like R or C, U etc like Accel. It means more time to create a part. What could be simpler and faster than create a part, import a netlist that associates the part, the netlist assigns the Ref designator? I don't get it. I'm just a simpleton. The autorouter is welcomed! The lib manager is overhead.That right the name is lib MANAGER, that's all I need is to spend more time managing. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD - Original Message - From: Jim Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter Press release in EE Times- http://www.eetimes.com/story/design/OEG20011210S0059 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
Oh, well. Bad ideas never die. They just get recycled :-(Or reborn. Hey, maybe that's why they call it Phoenix! IMO, most all-in-one files suck. Does the Windows registry come to mind? Corruption of a single file can ruin the whole system and it's applications. The all-in-one file concept has been refuted long ago. Look at the Unix/Linux system: lots of little configuration files. It's hard to remember where they are, but at least you don't have to search through unrelated stuff inside the file, and corruption of that one file won't ruin the entire system. However, I do like Protel's DDB file, for the most part. The only thing I can't stand about it is that if you merely open it to look at what's inside, it updates the file date and time. Ridiculous! Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Bob Fearon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter Mike You are right. But does this Integrated library sound like a copy of Pads? You know the all-in-one library, that cant be used. Of course the Manager concept comes from Accel, oh yeah. Sounds like a staight marketing scheme. Bob Fearon Mike Reagan wrote: Great! They are also integrating the library probably like the integration nightmare in ACCEL.Right now I can create a part, store it, create and copy separate customer libraries, import netlist from other programs, with or without a part assignment. Somehow one of these features will be lost with the new INTEGRATED library.They are attempting to sell software to managers instead of designers. Someone got a bug somewhere along the line that integrated libs are best. Oh did I mention the simplicity of creating a part and not having to play and dick with all of the silly worthless menus afterwards. Like assigning it to CON, or IC like PADS. or stupid prefixes like R or C, U etc like Accel. It means more time to create a part. What could be simpler and faster than create a part, import a netlist that associates the part, the netlist assigns the Ref designator? I don't get it. I'm just a simpleton. The autorouter is welcomed! The lib manager is overhead.That right the name is lib MANAGER, that's all I need is to spend more time managing. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD - Original Message - From: Jim Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter Press release in EE Times- http://www.eetimes.com/story/design/OEG20011210S0059 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
Sean, I hope you charge this guy by the hour!! -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:27 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter To quote Mike Reagan - What could be simpler and faster than create a part, import a netlist that associates the part, the netlist assigns the Ref designator? I don't get it. I'm just a simpleton. I cna't convince a engineer to do his boards schematics this way, so it takes forever to create/clean up his schematics, etc. It's a waste of time 7 money not to use the software properly. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
