Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
I too have an Official Protel 99 SE Mouse Pad . . . I Stopped by Protel NA in Rancho Bernardo (Baja Escondido) one day, and among other things, I asked them for a Protel Coffee Cup. Much to my surprise, they apologized and said that they did not have such a thing as a Proel Coffee Cup, but instead produced a Protel 99 SE Mouse Pad, and an Altium Frizbee (for "Tasking" if I remember correctly). I am trying to remember if they had Mouse Pads at PCB West . . . Anyway, I keep it in a compartment in my laptop case, just in case I run into something that will not work too well with my Logitech Optical Mouse, but I never noticed wheather or not it had a problem with that mouse, since I don't remember if I have actually ever tried to use it other than just momentarily, since the Logictech seems to work on pretty much anything I have tried it on, including my Levis and the console and seatcovers in my Jeep. Oh well . . . Never really looked at it closely . . . Hey, maybe it is useful after all . . . Just dug it out, and tried it with my Logitech, and it seems to work OK unless the Mouse Pad is not flat (notwithstanding that it is new, the Mouse Pad does appear to have a bit of a built in "curl" to it). I have noticed this before, that whenever the Logitec is not in direct contact with a flat surface, it misses some things. My Computer Work Bench is made from a large Kitchen Counter Top (imitation woodgrain) that I got from Home Depot (one of those super hardware stores), which has a radiused front edge (easy on the arms and wrists when working on the computer all day), but the radiusd edge is also raised just a bit from the remaining top surface (nice to prevent pencils from rolling off, etc.), and I notice that whenever the rear of the Logitech Optical Mouse goes up on the raised edge a bit the Mouse stops working. It appears to be because the Mouse works on reflected light, and changing the contact distance (even slightly it seems), appears to screw up the reflected light. Just noticed that it also screws up a normal mouse with a ball when the surface is not flat and I get too close to the edge with its radiused bump . . . JaMi - Original Message - From: "Duane Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. I have a Protel mousepad... it doesn't play well with optical mouse.. i thought my mouse was screwed up.. then i thought my mouse driver was hosed... then one of my cohorts suggested my mousepad was suspect... changed out the Protel pad and mouse stability has returned... i suppose i could tack it to the wall for reference... duane > -Original Message- > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:26 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > Thanks, I wish I had gotten one of those. > (Mousepad.jpg) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
Yep, same here. I don't use it - it's stuck to the wall of my cubicle... TC -Original Message- From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2003 2:29 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. I have a Protel mousepad... it doesn't play well with optical mouse.. i thought my mouse was screwed up.. then i thought my mouse driver was hosed... then one of my cohorts suggested my mousepad was suspect... changed out the Protel pad and mouse stability has returned... i suppose i could tack it to the wall for reference... duane > -Original Message- > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:26 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > Thanks, I wish I had gotten one of those. > (Mousepad.jpg) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
I have a Protel mousepad... it doesn't play well with optical mouse.. i thought my mouse was screwed up.. then i thought my mouse driver was hosed... then one of my cohorts suggested my mousepad was suspect... changed out the Protel pad and mouse stability has returned... i suppose i could tack it to the wall for reference... duane > -Original Message- > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:26 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > Thanks, I wish I had gotten one of those. > (Mousepad.jpg) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
I didn't get one :( Michael Badillo From: Brian Guralnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/10/09 Thu PM 11:52:15 EDT To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. ??? Mouse pad from Protel? This I got to see, you may email the scan of it directly to me. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Terry Creer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > Didn't you guys get a mouse mat with all the keyboard shortcuts on it? Very > handy! > > I can have it scanned if you like. It's got Design Explorer, PCB and Sch > shortcuts on it... > > TC > > -Original Message- > From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 6:58 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > thanks for the tip... that's why i keep scanning this list... > > duane > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:45 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > > > > > > :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& > > > > Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, > > placing, routing, > > holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. > > > > And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling > > & disabling, > > waiting my time for the last 5 years! > > > > _ > > Brian Guralnick > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
right edge CTRL+SHIFT+VSpace objects equally vertically F1 Run Online Help F3 Find next text SHIFT+F4Tile all open documents SHIFT+F5Cascade all open documents SHIFT+CTRL+Left_Click Move single object SHIFT+Left_ClickToggle single object selection CTRL+Left_Click, then release CTRL Drag single object CTRL+Left_Hold_Down, then release CTRL Drag single object Hold CTRL while moving or dragging Disable snap grid Hold ALT while moving or dragging Constrain movement to vertical direction Hold SHIFT+ALT while moving or dragging Constrain movement to horizontal direction Left_Click Focus object Left_Dbl_Click Change object Left_Hold_Down Move object / move selection ©Protel International 1999. All rights reserved Regards, Steve Smith, C.I.D. Product Engineer Staco Energy Products Co. Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com & www.stacopower.com -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:31 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. Ok, I've scanned and uploaded it to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ (Mousepad.jpg) If you're not registered, or don't want to register, email me and I'll send it to you... Best regards, Terry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
ge CTRL+SHIFT+VSpace objects equally vertically F1 Run Online Help F3 Find next text SHIFT+F4Tile all open documents SHIFT+F5Cascade all open documents SHIFT+CTRL+Left_Click Move single object SHIFT+Left_ClickToggle single object selection CTRL+Left_Click, then release CTRL Drag single object CTRL+Left_Hold_Down, then release CTRL Drag single object Hold CTRL while moving or dragging Disable snap grid Hold ALT while moving or dragging Constrain movement to vertical direction Hold SHIFT+ALT while moving or dragging Constrain movement to horizontal direction Left_Click Focus object Left_Dbl_Click Change object Left_Hold_Down Move object / move selection ' ©Protel International 1999. All rights reserved Regards, Steve Smith, C.I.D. Product Engineer Staco Energy Products Co. Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com & www.stacopower.com -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:31 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. Ok, I've scanned and uploaded it to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ (Mousepad.jpg) If you're not registered, or don't want to register, email me and I'll send it to you... Best regards, Terry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
Ok, I've scanned and uploaded it to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ (Mousepad.jpg) If you're not registered, or don't want to register, email me and I'll send it to you... Best regards, Terry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
I've got a photocopied sheet of shortcuts stuck to my PC, not sure where it came from. But it did not have the CTRL = electrical grid off shortcut for PCB. It has CTRL (hold) for snap grid disable in schematic. So yes please do scan the mouse pad. Tom L. > -Original Message- > From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 14:39 > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > Didn't you guys get a mouse mat with all the keyboard > shortcuts on it? Very > handy! > > I can have it scanned if you like. It's got Design Explorer, > PCB and Sch > shortcuts on it... > > TC > > -Original Message- > From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 6:58 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > thanks for the tip... that's why i keep scanning this list... > > duane > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:45 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & > electrical grid. > > > > > > :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& > > > > Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, > > placing, routing, > > holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. > > > > And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling > > & disabling, > > waiting my time for the last 5 years! > > > > _ > > Brian Guralnick > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
??? Mouse pad from Protel? This I got to see, you may email the scan of it directly to me. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Terry Creer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > Didn't you guys get a mouse mat with all the keyboard shortcuts on it? Very > handy! > > I can have it scanned if you like. It's got Design Explorer, PCB and Sch > shortcuts on it... > > TC > > -Original Message- > From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 6:58 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical > grid. > > > thanks for the tip... that's why i keep scanning this list... > > duane > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:45 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > > > > > > :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& > > > > Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, > > placing, routing, > > holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. > > > > And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling > > & disabling, > > waiting my time for the last 5 years! > > > > _ > > Brian Guralnick > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
Didn't you guys get a mouse mat with all the keyboard shortcuts on it? Very handy! I can have it scanned if you like. It's got Design Explorer, PCB and Sch shortcuts on it... TC -Original Message- From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 6:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. thanks for the tip... that's why i keep scanning this list... duane > -Original Message- > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > > > :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& > > Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, > placing, routing, > holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. > > And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling > & disabling, > waiting my time for the last 5 years! > > _ > Brian Guralnick > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
thanks for the tip... that's why i keep scanning this list... duane > -Original Message- > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid. > > > :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& > > Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, > placing, routing, > holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. > > And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling > & disabling, > waiting my time for the last 5 years! > > _ > Brian Guralnick > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] CTL key during routing & placement & electrical grid.
Brian- I've been using CTL-E to toggle the electrical grid on and off. Even that's been a hassle. Wish I'd known about the CTL key. Thanks though, better now than never! Mark Koitmaa At 09:44 AM 10/9/2003, you wrote: :(( !&$#!&$#!&$%&!#%$&!#$%&$%#&$!#&$%!&$!$%& Why hasn't anyone mentioned that whenever you are moving, placing, routing, holding down the CTL key temporally disables the electrical grid. And her I've been going to the electrical grid menu, enabling & disabling, waiting my time for the last 5 years! _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
