Re: [PEDA] DXP forum
At 10:48 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, Watnoski, Michael wrote: >Daniel, >Just use the link that's at the bottom of the page when you receive >a message. >-Original Message- >From: Daniel Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:39 PM >To: 'Protel EDA Forum' >Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP forum > > > >Could someone advise me on how to review email archives from the DXP forum. Mr. Watnoski's reply might work for the archive for the PEDA list, but Mr. Webster was asking about the DXP list, which is archived on yahoogroups. There is no instruction at the end of DXP mail as to how to access the archive (Altium could put it there, but they haven't -- nor have I for the other yahoogroups protel-user lists.) To view the archive for a yahoogroups list, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/[listname]/messages For the PEDA list, we have established an independent archive at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users-PEDA-Archive/messages Unfortunately, there seems to be no public or member access to the DXP list archive, probably because Altium has configured it that way (the default is that the archive is accessible to list members). I suggest to Altium that this is a shortcoming. If it is desired to edit the archive to remove fluff, it is easily done, the moderator can remove messages. Since the DXP list is mostly written by users, I think, however, that we would prefer to establish an independent user archive, similar to what we have for the PEDA list. This might actually be an advantage, because the DXP list, moderated by Altium, could be edited to retain only useful support messages, while a full archive for the few who would want to see it would be available elsewhere. Or if Altium prefers to keep the full archive -- much less work --, perhaps the users would edit the echo. Abd ulRahman Lomax Chair, Protel Users Association * Tracking #: 5D1A6AF489097C408FEE366C4362B0EA207C17A7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP forum
Re: [PEDA] DXP forum
Daniel, to view the archives you must be logged in to Yahoo and view them from your groups. I had a problem with this as well and discovered I had to add the DXP forum to my groups and then log in after that. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:39 PM > To: 'Protel EDA Forum' > Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP forum > > > > Could someone advise me on how to review email archives from > the DXP forum. > I am interested in the discussion that has already > transpired, but I just > signed onto the forum today. > > Thanks, > Daniel * Tracking #: AE41D922F9E4274E83D97999330EEAE30DC5BC30 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP forum
See: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxptechforum/messages John Williams - Original Message - From: "Daniel Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP forum > > Could someone advise me on how to review email archives from the DXP forum. > I am interested in the discussion that has already transpired, but I just > signed onto the forum today. > > Thanks, > Daniel > * Tracking #: 831FBF7356E46A4FB24F5E829A91129B9FB7D3B3 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP forum
Could someone advise me on how to review email archives from the DXP forum. I am interested in the discussion that has already transpired, but I just signed onto the forum today. Thanks, Daniel * Tracking #: 451859AFC9AECA48B544537322F350EA9944661C * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
> Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here Don't trip on the pile of dead hard drives & buggy video cards, or the wheel mouse cords, or slip on the coaster CDs, on your way out! ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Reagan (EDSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum > This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail this forum and > see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can anyone post the link for the > DXP forum > > > Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with SCSI, or cd rom , > or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in the backround on my Linux system > > Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here > > Mike Reagan > EDSI > > > > * Tracking #: B613DACD1BAE614C8AAB58EC8200A129BD127FBC > * > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
Thanks to all that posted the DXP link. I'm going to monitor DXP forum until all of the OS bugs are worked out. The DXP release looks like it was released too early and with too many bugs to be a useful tool, much like 99 was released then a year later 99SE was released. So Ill monitor activity there without my two cents See you guys there Mike Reagan - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum > Nah, we're just all so smart with 99SE that we now don't have much to > say about it. (other than the "I forgot if it does this...can someone > tell me?" or the newbie questions which have been answered pretty darn > fast. > > You take it easy Mike. Maybe we'll see ya on the DXP forum someday. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:51 PM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum > > > > > > This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail > > this forum and see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can > > anyone post the link for the DXP forum > > > > > > Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with > > SCSI, or cd rom , or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in > > the backround on my Linux system > > > > Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here > > > > Mike Reagan > > EDSI > > > > > > ** > > ** > > * Tracking #: B613DACD1BAE614C8AAB58EC8200A129BD127FBC > > * > > ** > > ** > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
Nah, we're just all so smart with 99SE that we now don't have much to say about it. (other than the "I forgot if it does this...can someone tell me?" or the newbie questions which have been answered pretty darn fast. You take it easy Mike. Maybe we'll see ya on the DXP forum someday. > -Original Message- > From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:51 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum > > > This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail > this forum and see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can > anyone post the link for the DXP forum > > > Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with > SCSI, or cd rom , or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in > the backround on my Linux system > > Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here > > Mike Reagan > EDSI > > > ** > ** > * Tracking #: B613DACD1BAE614C8AAB58EC8200A129BD127FBC > * > ** > ** > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
the DXP forum is only for DXP tech issues they don't seem to want to even mention 99 Dennis Saputelli * Tracking #: CCA28224CEE39A449013B2227DE340023D96B602 * -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
Michael Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Capps - Original Message - From: "Michael Reagan (EDSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum > This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail this forum and > see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can anyone post the link for the > DXP forum > > > Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with SCSI, or cd rom , > or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in the backround on my Linux system > > Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here > > Mike Reagan > EDSI > > > > * Tracking #: B613DACD1BAE614C8AAB58EC8200A129BD127FBC > * > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum
This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail this forum and see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can anyone post the link for the DXP forum Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with SCSI, or cd rom , or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in the backround on my Linux system Probahly my last posting on here because there are no new issues here Mike Reagan EDSI * Tracking #: B613DACD1BAE614C8AAB58EC8200A129BD127FBC * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum
- Original Message - From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum > At 02:20 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Phillip Stevens wrote: > > >It turns out that unless you already have a yahoo groups user ID and > >password you can use, you end up going through the sign-up rigmarole > >anyway...it seems to be a direct link to an indirect sigh up process. > > This is not correct. > > To subscribe to any yahoogroups list, send a piece of mail to > [listname][EMAIL PROTECTED] You will receive a confirmation mail. > Reply to that mail and you are subscribed to the list. > > There is also a web link in the confirmation mail, but it is not necessary > to use it. It is much easier and faster to just hit Reply/Send. > > the address to subscribe, to repeat it, is > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > There are several good reasons to take DXP issues and concerns to the DXP > list. The main one is that questions asked there get answered by people who > know whereof they write. The respondent might be Mr. Loughhead (is he still > the Protel Product Manager?) or one of the programmers. Or it might be > another DXP user somewhat familiar, by now, with the program from having > been a Beta tester. > > I have seen a number of issues raised in the PEDA list, and ensuing > discussion, that was simply rooted in ignorance (or to put it another way, > on documentation that is missing or has not been understood). DXP is > *different* from 99SE, and some procedures that would be done one way in > 99SE are done differently in DXP. I'm *not* very familiar with DXP, what > with travel and a new baby, I wasn't able to give the Beta much attention, > but I've seen complaints here about DXP that also came up early on the DXP > Beta list. Difference was, those complaints on that list were quickly > answered with instructions about how to do the desired thing in DXP, the > facility was *not* missing from the program, and not only not missing, it > was implemented in a better way. The DXP users for the most part are active > on that list plus Altium personnel. > > So at the present time I expect I'm not going to personally participate in > DXP discussions here. This list I consider to be for 99SE support; DXP > issues are largely noise for 99SE users, who can, if they wish, listen in > on the DXP list or get DXP support there. Or even grouse about DXP. I'm > considering DXP purchase (or, more accurately, ATS purchase) and I > certainly plan to get my DXP information and support and impressions about > the value of the upgrade from the DXP list, not from here. > > I will say, so far, that the improvements seem to be worth the ATS price, > certainly it is worth considering. > > > > * Tracking #: 8E5625579531DD4597EC105A529349035115F3DF > * > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum
Phil, This is the response I got after following Altium's instructions: ".We have received your request to join the dxptechforum group hosted by Yahoo! Groups, a free, easy-to-use community service. This request will expire in 21 days. TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE GROUP: 1) Go to the Yahoo! Groups site by clicking on this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/i?i=DJkUI28dmIefFfhJGFX98sNjDWI&e=rupinski%40webspan %2Enet (If clicking doesn't work, "Cut" and "Paste" the line above into your Web browser's address bar.) -OR- 2) REPLY to this email by clicking "Reply" and then "Send" in your email program If you did not request, or do not want, a membership in the dxptechforum group, please accept our apologies and ignore this message. Regards, Yahoo! Groups Customer Care." I chose the option, "2)REPLY.", and got confirmation a little while later. I got no request for an ID or a password via this route. However, it is conceivable that my name is already somewhere in the bowels of Yahoo's (huge?) database, but, would that qualify me? Regards, Fred A Rupinski - Original Message - From: "Phillip Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum > > It turns out that unless you already have a yahoo groups user ID and > password you can use, you end up going through the sign-up rigmarole > anyway...it seems to be a direct link to an indirect sigh up process. > > Got about 1/2 way through, and decided I'd just stay here. > > FAR> To avoid sign-on rigmarole, I suggest using the following instruction provided by Altium: > FAR> "you can subscribe directly by sending a blank email to: > FAR> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > FAR> Regards, > FAR> Fred A Rupinski * Tracking #: F562E93CDEE61846AF679306B1065CD3A8BFF3C7 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum
At 02:20 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Phillip Stevens wrote: >It turns out that unless you already have a yahoo groups user ID and >password you can use, you end up going through the sign-up rigmarole >anyway...it seems to be a direct link to an indirect sigh up process. This is not correct. To subscribe to any yahoogroups list, send a piece of mail to [listname][EMAIL PROTECTED] You will receive a confirmation mail. Reply to that mail and you are subscribed to the list. There is also a web link in the confirmation mail, but it is not necessary to use it. It is much easier and faster to just hit Reply/Send. the address to subscribe, to repeat it, is [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are several good reasons to take DXP issues and concerns to the DXP list. The main one is that questions asked there get answered by people who know whereof they write. The respondent might be Mr. Loughhead (is he still the Protel Product Manager?) or one of the programmers. Or it might be another DXP user somewhat familiar, by now, with the program from having been a Beta tester. I have seen a number of issues raised in the PEDA list, and ensuing discussion, that was simply rooted in ignorance (or to put it another way, on documentation that is missing or has not been understood). DXP is *different* from 99SE, and some procedures that would be done one way in 99SE are done differently in DXP. I'm *not* very familiar with DXP, what with travel and a new baby, I wasn't able to give the Beta much attention, but I've seen complaints here about DXP that also came up early on the DXP Beta list. Difference was, those complaints on that list were quickly answered with instructions about how to do the desired thing in DXP, the facility was *not* missing from the program, and not only not missing, it was implemented in a better way. The DXP users for the most part are active on that list plus Altium personnel. So at the present time I expect I'm not going to personally participate in DXP discussions here. This list I consider to be for 99SE support; DXP issues are largely noise for 99SE users, who can, if they wish, listen in on the DXP list or get DXP support there. Or even grouse about DXP. I'm considering DXP purchase (or, more accurately, ATS purchase) and I certainly plan to get my DXP information and support and impressions about the value of the upgrade from the DXP list, not from here. I will say, so far, that the improvements seem to be worth the ATS price, certainly it is worth considering. * Tracking #: 8E5625579531DD4597EC105A529349035115F3DF * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] DXP Forum
It turns out that unless you already have a yahoo groups user ID and password you can use, you end up going through the sign-up rigmarole anyway...it seems to be a direct link to an indirect sigh up process. Got about 1/2 way through, and decided I'd just stay here. FAR> To avoid sign-on rigmarole, I suggest using the following instruction provided by Altium: FAR> "you can subscribe directly by sending a blank email to: FAR> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" FAR> Regards, FAR> Fred A Rupinski * Tracking #: 9D7B07891EE8704296BB30149911E72686D3852E * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
