Re: [PEDA] Interesting Reading Material

2004-07-16 Thread Mike Reagan

[snip]

I do thing Altium/Protel are loosing their way. FPGA's are nice, but in the
end they are just a component used in some of the designs I do.



I see FPGA's in almost every design I see.  I also see diff paired routing
in almost pcb design. I don't see how 3rd party software for FPGA's can
compete with OEM software from Xylinx, Altera, etc.  Without direct input
and licensing the software will always be behind in development and probably
more error prone.
 Just my observation, since I am not an FPGA designer

Mike Reagan




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Re: [PEDA] Interesting Reading Material

2004-07-15 Thread Ian Middleton
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 July 2004 17:17
> To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Interesting Reading Material
>
>
> All,
> Interesting reading material from
> http://www.edacafe.com/magazine/index.php?newsletter=1&run_date=12
> -Jul-2004
> along with my comments
>
>
[snip]

I do thing Altium/Protel are loosing their way. FPGA's are nice, but in the
end they are just a component used in some of the designs I do.

Nice to have it all integrated for the odd 5-10% of projects I do using
FPGA's, but most of the time its schematics and PCB's, with no hint of FPGA
or even VHDL.




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Re: [PEDA] Interesting Reading Material

2004-07-14 Thread Kerry Berland
> From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
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> Altium Limited, an Australian company, began life as Protel International
> Limited in 1985. Their initial product was Protel PCB Design. Over the
> years
> the company has acquired several companies and technologies including in
> roughly chronological order NeuroCad (Autorouter technology), PLD
> technology

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Opinion from where I sit.

A) FPGAs are cool but from the work we do as a design consultant they are
not an overwhelmingly huge part of what we see. Maybe we're out of step with
the trends. Have to admit we are replacing an expensive FPGA with a less
costly DSP in a project we're doing.

B) The people who make and sell FPGA chips have a low-cost tools strategy to
help promote their chips. I would worry that placing a lot of emphasis on
FPGAs, for an independent CAD supplier like Altium/Protel, might be not such
a hot strategy. Wonder if this might be similar to the issues faced by
microprocessor emulator companies. (Altium should know from Tasking.) The
proliferation of JTAG emulators and low-cost hardware and software tools
from the microprocessor chip vendors--often given away for free to large
customers-- has given the independents a hard time.

Should Altium be pushing FPGAs as much as they seem to be? Don't know

Best regards,

Kerry Berland
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