Re: [PEDA] polygon fill, thanks Brian

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Sherer

>I'm glad that Mr Rohmberg got his fills filled, but I don't think it was 
>from Mr. Sherer's advice, which is, unfortunately, incorrect, I just 
>verified it.

I stand correctedThanks. Can't understand how I've never run
into the problem!

Brian

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Re: [PEDA] polygon fill, thanks Brian

2002-11-04 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 09:08 PM 11/4/2002 +0200, Christopher Rhomberg wrote:

I got my polygon fills in finally thanks to you.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Sherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Protel gets confused if you create a polygon which lies within
> or overlaps another polygon (with a different net name) on the same layer.
> See Protel's Help topics. A Split Plane must be used in this case.


I'm glad that Mr Rohmberg got his fills filled, but I don't think it was 
from Mr. Sherer's advice, which is, unfortunately, incorrect, I just 
verified it.

"Split Planes" are creatures for negative layers (usually power planes), 
but Mr. Rhomberg was trying to fill a polygon on a positive layer.

Polygon fills can overlap. However, if they overlap, sequence of filling 
becomes important. Essentially, the innermost plane should be filled first, 
then the outermost. If you have an outermost plane first and want to place 
a plane contained within it, you can move the first plane to another layer 
while you place and fill the innermost plane, then move the outer one back 
and fill it.

If the planes intersect but neither contains the other, then I can give no 
general advice as to which to pour first But with polygon pours, it 
might be better to split them so that pour is explicit. polygon pours with 
the same net can overlap without any ambiguity. This is one way that 
polygon pours are more flexible than inner planes. I think DXP fixes the 
inner plane limitation.


Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
LOMAX DESIGN ASSOCIATES
PCB design, consulting, and training
Protel EDA license resales
Easthampton, Massachusetts, USA
(413) 527-3881, efax (419) 730-4777
www.lomaxdesign.com



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Re: [PEDA] polygon fill, thanks Brian

2002-11-04 Thread Christopher Rhomberg
Thanks Brian,

I got my polygon fills in finally thanks to you.

Best Regards

Chris Rhomberg

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Sherer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] polygon fill


> Chris-
>
> I had second thoughts. You may not be copying, but creating a
> polygon on a board having an existing polygon.
>
> Protel gets confused if you create a polygon which lies within
> or overlaps another polygon (with a different net name) on the same layer.
> See Protel's Help topics. A Split Plane must be used in this case. In
brief,
> the added Polygon is made using the Place Split Plane option; the
> polygons may NOT overlap, and an "inner" polygon must NOT be fully
> enclosed by the "outer" polygon. To created space for the "inner" polygon,
> the outer polygon may be edited to break its outline and move the
> resulting vertices, to create a hole in the outer polygon. Then you place
> the inner polygon in the hole.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Brian
>
> At 06:09 PM 11/2/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I am using Protel 99SE and cannot figure out why when I drop a polygon
> plane, which I choose to be GND it drops the
> >plane over all the pads and tracks in the area.
> >I have my netlist correct, I think I have set the polygon plane right by
> setting not to remove dead copper.
> >I still cannot get it working properly.
> >If I click on any of the tracks around there each one has it's separate
> net name so why should the
> >polygon cover them.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Chris
> >

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