[protobuf] Re: Submit Protocol Buffers as an IETF RFC

2012-05-09 Thread Neil T. Dantam

On 05/02/2012 05:08 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

On Jun 22 2011, 6:39 pm, "Neil T. Dantam"  wrote:

On 06/22/2011 08:29 AM, Thiago wrote:
  >  Hi all,
  >
  >  I'm writing this to ask if others agree that publishing Protocol
  >  Buffers language and encoding as an IETF RFC would be a good idea.

I think a protobuf RFC would be fantastic!


I also think a protobuf RFC would be fantastic.  It would also make
it much easier to specify the use of protobuf inside other
standards. I am currently writing a RFC for another Google project
which uses Protobuf and the chances of I think the chances of that
becoming a standard when Protobuf is not are fairly remote.


Lots of crickets attending this discussion, but I'll add my opinion
anyway.

Practically speaking, this is probably as straightforward as
formalizing the existing documentation in the appropriate RFC style.
I would still be interested to help with the writing and editing
involved.

However, it does seem rather important that those involved with the
Google reference implementation would at least give any such
submission their blessing.  So... How do you guys feel about this?

-ntd

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[protobuf] Re: Submit Protocol Buffers as an IETF RFC

2012-05-02 Thread Daniel Thomas
On Jun 22 2011, 6:39 pm, "Neil T. Dantam"  wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 08:29 AM, Thiago wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I'm writing this to ask if others agree that publishing Protocol
>  > Buffers language and encoding as an IETF RFC would be a good idea.
>
> I think a protobuf RFC would be fantastic!

I also think a protobuf RFC would be fantastic.
It would also make it much easier to specify the use of protobuf
inside
other standards. I am currently writing a RFC for another Google
project
which uses Protobuf and the chances of I think the chances of that
becoming
a standard when Protobuf is not are fairly remote.

>  > One of the questions I was asked when suggesting to adopt PB was: "Is
>  > this a standard or just a project that could be abandoned by the
>  > creators/maintainers at some time?" I know it's open source and anyone
>  > could continue to work on the code, but I think publishing it as a RFC
>  > would help it being adopted.
>
> It does seem highly unlikely that Google, or any of the rest of us
> who've built up an infrastructure around Protocol Buffers, will abandon
> it anytime soon.  An RFC, however, would certainly clarify this
> commitment.  And while the current documentation is sufficient for
> building a compatible implementation, formalizing the requirements seems
> like the right thing to do if we want to Play Nice (tm) with everyone else.
>
> If there's interest and agreement to do this, I would be delighted to help.
>
> --
> Neil 
> Dantamhttp://www.cc.gatech.edu/~ndantam3/http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~ndantam3/docs/s-protobuf/

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