[Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread Clint Priest
If you're on a PC you can adjust your wheel-scroll settings in Control
Panel - Mouse - Wheel.  I think the default is 3 and I usually
adjust mine up as well.

On Apr 6, 7:15 am, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 for the scrolling. The navigation between documentation links has
 much improved, but the navigation panel still has issues. The wheel-
 scroll is painfully slow. Even clicking in the scroll bar doesn't work
 as expected. When you click a position in the scroll bar, usually it
 jumps to where you clicked.

 Otherwise, the documentation itself is phenomenal, and thanks to all!
 -joe t.

 On Apr 5, 5:19 pm, Joost joost.van.do...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have the same problem, because I like to use google to search for
  stuff in the documentation but I end up on the old one. Also I think
  the mouse wheel scrolling in the menu onhttp://api.prototypejs.orgis
  way too slow and should be fixed (it takes 10 seconds for me to scroll
  down with the mouse wheel..).

  Good work on the improved docs though.

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Re: [Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread toxcct
A HTTP 301 seems a better solution as it stands for Permanently redirected
to a given URL...

the header should look like :

HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently

Location: http://www.newurl.com/



2010/4/6 Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.com

 A practical solution would be a well designed 404.

 We could get pdoc to generate it with a search field, etc.

 We could also try JS redirection.

 Anyone wants to give it a shot?

 Best,

 Tobie

 On Apr 6, 8:42 am, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
   My coworkers still find old docs (http://prototypejs.org/api) by
 googling. I
   had to point them to new doc site. I think it's crucial to set up 301
   redirects.
 
  *ONLY* if all of the old information has now been ported over. Looking
  at the documentation Lighthouse project[1], it looks like all of the
  old merge/update tickets have been closed (yay!), which may mean
  exactly that, someone from the docs team can presumably confirm that.
 
  Once we're ready, 301s that live in those locations for a long, long
  time are indeed appropriate. Or if 301s are hard in Mephisto,
  replacing each of the API documentation articles with a link to the
  new one.
 
  [1]
 https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/42103-prototype-document...
 
  -- T.J.
 
  On Apr 5, 3:30 pm, Mislav Marohnić mislav.maroh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:48, Johan Arensman johanm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Wow! I didn't even realise they were updated until I read this
 message.
Very nice work indeed!
 
   My coworkers still find old docs (http://prototypejs.org/api) by
 googling. I
   had to point them to new doc site. I think it's crucial to set up 301
   redirects.

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Re: [Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread toxcct
BTW, if the .htaccess file is not accessible or cannot be updated, it is
still possible to redirect from the server-side language used (header() for
instance with php)...


2010/4/6 Robert Kieffer bro...@gmail.com

 Urm... really?  You can do 404's but not 301's?

 Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just surprised that a project as mature
 as prototype is hosted in an environment that doesn't support basic
 .htaccess-style configuration.

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Robert, that would be great. We unfortunately don't have this level of
 access to the server.

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[Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread T.J. Crowder
Tobie,

Can we use JavaScript on Mephisto pages?

-- T.J.

On Apr 6, 6:49 pm, Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
  Urm... really?  You can do 404's but not 301's?

 I was suggesting crating a good 404 page. Not modifying the http
 response code.

  Not saying I don't believe you, I'm just surprised that a project as mature
  as prototype is hosted in an environment that doesn't support basic
  .htaccess-style configuration.

 There's historical reasons to this. We're in the process of migrating,
 though (not that this will change much in terms of low-level access).

 Best,

 Tobie

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[Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread joe t.
Agreed, and it appears to be specific to Firefox. However, i can't
recall any other circumstances (iframe, CSS overflow, etc) where the
scroll bar behaves differently. The new API page is the only time i've
seen this behavior. Peculiar.

Oh well, it's hardly the end of the world. :)
-joe t.


On Apr 6, 8:31 am, Mislav Marohnić mislav.maroh...@gmail.com wrote:
 The scroll bar is native to the browser, meaning it's the same as in a
 regular window, iframe or frameset. The navigation panel should scroll with
 same methods and speed as every window in your browser.On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 
 14:15, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
  +1 for the scrolling. The navigation between documentation links has
  much improved, but the navigation panel still has issues. The wheel-
  scroll is painfully slow. Even clicking in the scroll bar doesn't work
  as expected. When you click a position in the scroll bar, usually it
  jumps to where you clicked.

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[Prototype-core] Re: Kudos to the documentation team

2010-04-07 Thread Tobie Langel
 Can we use JavaScript on Mephisto pages?

 -- T.J.


Yes, but we're moving away from it.

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[Prototype-core] Roadmap

2010-04-07 Thread gf3
This is a continuation of the discussion started here:
http://github.com/sstephenson/prototype/commit/2f9bde3ad5a2e3dd104c812b6c81f4077fe0aa1e#all_commit_comments

It would be very helpful to see some sort of Prototype roadmap or at
least be able to see internal discussion about the development of the
library. Not only from a personal interest standpoint but I also
receive a lot of questions on IRC regarding what Prototype is doing,
what's happening with development, c. Unfortunately, right now, I
don't really have an information that I can pass on.

Tobie mentioned a public read-only interface to internal discussions –
this would satisfy my needs. Although a formal roadmap may be
beneficial to core devs as well.

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Re: [Prototype-core] Roadmap

2010-04-07 Thread Allen Madsen
I agree that a road map would be helpful. In addition to the reasons
gf3 mentioned, I think it would make it easier to contribute.

Allen Madsen
http://www.allenmadsen.com



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:53 PM, gf3 giannichiappe...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a continuation of the discussion started here:
 http://github.com/sstephenson/prototype/commit/2f9bde3ad5a2e3dd104c812b6c81f4077fe0aa1e#all_commit_comments

 It would be very helpful to see some sort of Prototype roadmap or at
 least be able to see internal discussion about the development of the
 library. Not only from a personal interest standpoint but I also
 receive a lot of questions on IRC regarding what Prototype is doing,
 what's happening with development, c. Unfortunately, right now, I
 don't really have an information that I can pass on.

 Tobie mentioned a public read-only interface to internal discussions –
 this would satisfy my needs. Although a formal roadmap may be
 beneficial to core devs as well.

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