Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Srinivasa KP
Just trust. On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Le 29/05/2016 21:59, Matthew Dixon Cowles a écrit : > > > > The PSF is a pretty big organization now. (Though I don't seem to be > > able to find a recent budget to see just how big. Is that a fault in > > my searching?) > >

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 29/05/2016 21:59, Matthew Dixon Cowles a écrit : > > The PSF is a pretty big organization now. (Though I don't seem to be > able to find a recent budget to see just how big. Is that a fault in > my searching?) > > I think that members could have an interest in something more than > belief in

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Matthew Dixon Cowles
Please correct me if I get any quoting below wrong, it seems to have come through a bit confused. [Steve Holden] > For Heaven's sake. We elect a board to look after these issues. You > can't expect to second-guess every deliberation. If you want to do > that, stand for the board. [Karl Karsten] >

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Steve Holden
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > I also used to wonder what was being discussed behind closed doors. > > We shouldn't have to wonder. If it really is that boring, fine, but it > should be up to me to decide how I spend my time. > > The posted minutes are just a summary and

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Carl Karsten
> I also used to wonder what was being discussed behind closed doors. We shouldn't have to wonder. If it really is that boring, fine, but it should be up to me to decide how I spend my time. The posted minutes are just a summary and results of the discussions and votes. They don't tell me what w

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-29 Thread Carol Willing
On 28 May 2016, at 7:15, Carl Karsten wrote: All of the people nominated for the PSF board are good people who will do good things. If things were running smooth, I wouldn't really care who gets elected. But once again, we see people asking questions due to lack of transparency. So once

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-28 Thread Diana Clarke
Before I was on the board, I also used to wonder what was being discussed behind closed doors. Spoiler alert: it's far less exciting than you might expect. As Tim Peters once put it: "Exciting as watching rocks sleep? Yup, but essential - the glory of serving on the Board isn't for everyone ;-)".

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-28 Thread Philip James
One thing we could do is publish agendas either in full or in part before the Board meetings. This could give time for members to express opinions and concerns to the Board. I am not a current Board member, and won't know until Tuesday if I am going to be a Board member, and haven't spoken wit

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-28 Thread Jacqueline Kazil
User testing? On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > Stand for the board and make sure it becomes more transparent? S > > Steve Holden > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > >> All of the people nominated for the PSF board are good people who will do >> g

Re: [PSF-Community] board candidates: tell me about transparency

2016-05-28 Thread Steve Holden
Stand for the board and make sure it becomes more transparent? S Steve Holden On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > All of the people nominated for the PSF board are good people who will do > good things. If things were running smooth, I wouldn't really care who > gets electe