Used Pro Tools bundle for sale
I know there are people here to investigate PT before purchasing, so I hope that you all won't mind me posting this bundle here for sale. It will be a great opportunity for someone. I'm selling a Pro Tools 9 license, as well as a license for the Instrument Expansion Pack. In addition to the softsynths the come with Pro Tools, the Instrument Expansion adds Structure, Strike, Velvet, Transfuser, and Hybrid. All of these are accessible except for Structure. It is still possible to select presets in Structure via some preset files that have been shared here. This Pro Tools license was originally $699. The Instrument Expansion was another $499. I'll take $800 for both, provided that you can pay via PayPal. I'll deliver to you the original DVDs for everything, as well as the electronic licenses. Please feel free to email me with any questions. Bryan
Re: Ardour Accessibility
Reaper is not open source. It has a scripting system, an extension API for plug ins that extend the main program, as well as effect and synth plug in support for formats like DXI, VST, and JS. You can change a lot, but you can't replace the main window. Among the available DAW systems, though, it is the most moddable of any that I know. Bryan On Jan 12, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Actually, I think someone could. The deal about reaper, is that it's completely open source. Therefore, someone could develop a plugin for it that actually completely changed the look and feel of the program. Wonder if someone could write a skin that passed a bunch of UX stuff to voiceover, such as putting things in propper containers such as tables, drawers, button groups, etc.
Re: midi quantize
Platform is a dead issue. They've pretty much ruled out any effort on Windows. Windows accessibility is too difficult. On the Mac, for a software developer, making their program accessible largely means that all of their user interface controls should support communication with the Mac accessibility API. They really don't need to know much about how screen readers work. On Windows, accessibility largely means to be compatible with one or more screen readers. Which ones should be supported? Who will train the programmers how to use them, so that they can test the compatibility with them? It's a complex situation, and Avid doesn't seem to be ready to throw that many resources at fixing accessibility issues. Anyway, if you really need Pro Tools, what's the cost of a Mac? If you're broke, or if this is just a hobby for you, there are several programs on windows that are simpler to use and cost less, even though they might lack some features of Pro Tools. They'll still record your home demos. Bryan On Dec 26, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, Has anyone here written avid on these inaccessibility issues as if they are not aware of them the chances of getting them resolved quickley or in the next release is slim? Pro tools could be as usable to us as it is for the sited and yes for audio work only it looks like it is usable but we should be able to be able to use every single feature of this great program regardless of what platform we choose to use it on. Has anyone ever used avid support and training services before and if so how good are they? Nick Gawronski On 12/25/2011 9:53 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Yeah that’s what I thought. The lack of midi access is really one of the key reasons why we can’t totally depend on PT for all our professional production needs. Let’s hope that logic becomes viable. Gord From: Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:12 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: midi quantize Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: midi quantize
Gord, Kevin and I spent a lot of time playing with the MIDI processing dialogs, like quantize, all the way back in 8.04, and couldn't get any of the additional parameters other than the ghrid to work. As far as I know, it isn't possible for you to adjust the swing, the strength, limit quantizing to notes with a certain velocity level, etc. Another annoying limitation in the MIDI department. Bryan On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: Has anybody had any success using the midi quantize settings dialog? I can quantize a selection but I haven’t figured out how to adjust the amount of swing. I see two fields next to the swing button that say 0 and 100. Are we supposed to drag some sort of arrow in betweenthose values to get a value like 30 or so to get a subtle swing feel? Thanks Gord
Re: audio interface
Won't work. Windows control panel uses a custom non-readable format, and the Mac control panel uses a plist file. Not on the computer with the ProjectMix now, but the file is in ~/Library/Preferences. Is something like com.m-audio.projectmix blah blah. You can edit the values with the Properties Editor in xCode. A plist file is XML, so you can edit it with any text editor, but you'll need to be careful that way. Either way, some of the settings have names that don't make sense, so you won't know what you're adjusting, and some of the settings with clear names use values that aren't clear. For example, if you see clock source, and the value is C23A41B8, who knows if that is internal, external, external with digital mute, etc. You could always have someone sighted change settings in the control panel and look at the values in the plist file. Maybe M-Audio would send you the format spec, but I doubt it. The other trick is to get the driver to reload settings from the file. When you change a setting in a preference pane, two things happen. The preference pane changes the value in the preferences file that matches the user interface control that you just adjusted, and the preference pane sends a message to the app/service/driver instructing it to reload its settings from the preferences file. If you edit the file by hand, not sure what you'll have to do to get the projectMix to reload the settings. Maybe opening/closing the preferences pane would be enough. Maybe you'll have to power cycle it. Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey. Anyone know if that would work on the M Audio Panel? That would work awesome if I could set the prefs in windows and force the mac to recognize it as the default. What a great idea. Kevin On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Tim Burgess wrote: Well, don't go for a Focusrite Saffire - we've got great accessibility on the Windows panel, but there's nothing except the menu bar that's workable on the Mac. I cheat and create my configurations under windows, save them as preset files then use Command+O to load them on the Mac, but this is a pain, even if you're lucky enough to have a couple of machines. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monkey Pusher Sent: 12 June 2011 18:10 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: audio interface Hey Everyone, Was just curious what audio interface are you guys using on the mac that has an accessible control pannel? just curious since my MBox Pro's control pannel is completely inaccessible and there are a few changes i would have to make in there.So i am considering replaceing it if there is something thats also accessible but meets my needs I/O wise. Thanks.
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
Due to the way that the plug in window is designed, no matter what plug you throw at it, VO won't be able to read anything at all, including pop-up menus, child windows (open file dialogs), and so on. You get the preset librarian and the automatable controls. That's it. That's fine for plugs like effects, but is not even a start for plugs like Structure. Until the whole window is redesigned, the only way you'll have a chance at an accessible UI for a plug is if the plug's interface is displayed in another program. There is Rewire on the Mac, but I don't remember exactly what sort of Rewire support is available in Pro Tools. That approach is probably the best lead on an accessible sampler. You're right about Xpand. The electronic drums and some other areas are really lacking, but the editing support is very good. You probably noticed how many parameters are in the window. If you aren't familiar with the VoiceOver item chooser (VO-i), you should spend some time with it. If you know part of the parameter's name, the item chooser can help jump you right to it without having to step through them all. If you find that you're editing, and bouncing back and forth between a few of the same parameters over and over, then set VO hot spots on the parameters, and you can jump directly to one of the parameters with a single hot key. Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: I was hoping that the garitan aria player would be accessible but it doesn't look good. If it were we could import sfz stuff into it. We really really are going to need a sampler of some sort. I like xpand though, at least we have access to the envelopes and it's simple and straightforward. Gord -Original Message- From: Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:36 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Software instruments and precise editing No, I said that I'd had luck. Most of the Avid instruments are accessible. They show their presets in the plug in window's preset librarian, and you can edit them through the visible automation parameters. There are some exceptions. Structure and Structure LE are 100% out. You must use their custom browsers to load presets, those browsers are completely invisible to VoiceOver, and they don't support keyboard navigation. This is really too bad. Xpand is sort of a general sound module, but the quality of the instruments in Structure are much better. Structure also has nice expansions from East-West that we can't use. From the instrument Expansion, the Transfuser instrument that is used to create/perform grooves in real-time by mixing and modifying loops is somewhat accessible, but crashes VO a lot. Like I said, though, every 3rd-party instrument that I've tried is inaccessible. Without Structure, the built-in instruments are great for picking up a part here and there if you're using mostly real instruments, but just need the occasional synth to cover a specific sound. If you want to completely sequence, I don't think that the instruments that we can use cover what is needed. I'd think better of the set if we could count Structure in our pallet. As is, though, most of the instruments in Xpand are like a synth rack from the mid 90's. Velvet and DB33 are absolutely nothing like modelers such as Lounge Lizard and B4. The absolute deal breaker for me, and anyone that sequences groove-based music from Dance Pop, to Hip Hop, to Dub Step, and so on, is that we don't have access to any sort of sampler at all. The electronic drums available in the presets are very out of date, and, without a sampler, I can't use my own sampled kits. These styles also require lots of sampled bits and pieces: gang shouts, atmospheric effects, stabs, transitions, etc, and ther isn't any way to trigger them. You could manually import each piece, place it on a track, and push it around, but that is the million years way to create a song. In terms of quality, I'd say that the Avid instruments are better than most of what comes with Sonar, but are way behind GarageBand and Logic. It's too bad. Editing in Pro Tools is so fast, that it could be really great for sequencing. Until we get access to a sampler plug in and better instruments, though, I still have to do those sorts of projects in Sonar. If you're working on simple stuff, like simple drums, bass, and keyboard arrangements, though, then it probably be enough. Bryan On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Elder wrote: Hi Brian, You say others have had luck with the accessibility of Avid virtual instruments. Can you further describe the relative accessibility of the Avid instruments? I was considering an investment in the PT virtual instrument collection. As of now I still do most synth programming in Sonar because of the quality of the access to the virtual instruments and then export to Pro Tools for mixing
Re: Control Surface
Is worth it to get an Apple keyboard. Besides fixing compatibility issues, they're really cool designs. The keyboards are basically a flat laptop keyboard built in to a thin, but strong, aluminum frame. They're very thin, have practically no wasted border around the keys, and are extremely light weight. Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Tim Burgess wrote: Hi Gord, I'm just about to get the 2.0GHz, 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD version (can't quite push it for the extra clock speed and SSD space). This machine will be used to get a Mac version of the Mackie Display Reader going. I'm interested that you've had some issues with using a PC keyboard - the only one I've found on my Mac Mini is that using Shift+M, Shift+S, etc. in the Track table doesn't mute, solo, etc.. Is that what you've experienced, please? Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Kent Sent: 11 June 2011 06:11 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Control Surface Well, I'm certainly going through quite a learning curve with both the mac os and pt. But I am really impressed with the interface of both, and the ss drive is really cool. I went whole hog with the macbook pro, the 500 gb drive, 8gb of ram, and the 2.3ghz quad i7 processor. Now if they would only get the thunderbolt supported with some hardware that would be it. I'm surprised it only has two usb ports, but I guess they expect you to use a hub. I do need to get an actual apple keyboard, the pc keyboards work but there are some incompatibilities. Anyway, I do have some issues but it's too late to get to that now. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 7:59 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Control Surface Hey Gord, Welcome to the list. Very cool. Slau On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Gord wrote: Hi: Well, I'm just on the list for the first time. Have a blown out macbook pro with pt9 now. I do have a project mix but also an alesis master control which I think has some form of hui compatibility. It does have an excellent jog wheel and the audio i/o is decent. I'm just getting strated with this whole setup, but like it so far. BTW, autotune 7 really shows up well with VO. Gord Tim Burgess wrote: Hi, I'm intending to add HUI and Logic Control protocol support, so I'm setting up a test rig with a Behringer BCF2000 right now with Baby HUI and PT9. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: 03 June 2011 12:29 To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Control Surface Tim this sounds great and would be even better if you can create a mac version to work with pro tools. Monkey Pusher wrote: So this will allow any control surface that uses the mackie protocol to talk? or only the mackie ones? Does that mean it will speak the changs as you make them on the control surface? Like it will say the pan value as you make adjustments? On 5/31/11, Tim Burgess tim...@raisedbar.net wrote: Hi, Just to add that I'm currently developing an application to make Mackie-compliant surfaces talk. We currently have a proof of concept version working with Sonar on the PC, but we'll have a cross-platform build going in the next few months. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: 31 May 2011 16:27 To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Control Surface Hi this question depends on your budget. If you can aford it go for the digi 003, just don't fall over if you here what the price is remember it's much more than a control serfice. The next level to look at would be the euphonix control, mix and transport however as far as I'd seen on forums the euphonix stuff has increased in price and decreased in build quality since avid baught the company. I would personally go for a mackie control universal pro, I have worked on these a lot. It's solid and has a great feel. think the main unit retails for round $1000. J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I'm using a command-8. I like it so far. The only thing it doesn't have that would be nice is a scrub wheel. -Original Message- From:
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
No, I said that I'd had luck. Most of the Avid instruments are accessible. They show their presets in the plug in window's preset librarian, and you can edit them through the visible automation parameters. There are some exceptions. Structure and Structure LE are 100% out. You must use their custom browsers to load presets, those browsers are completely invisible to VoiceOver, and they don't support keyboard navigation. This is really too bad. Xpand is sort of a general sound module, but the quality of the instruments in Structure are much better. Structure also has nice expansions from East-West that we can't use. From the instrument Expansion, the Transfuser instrument that is used to create/perform grooves in real-time by mixing and modifying loops is somewhat accessible, but crashes VO a lot. Like I said, though, every 3rd-party instrument that I've tried is inaccessible. Without Structure, the built-in instruments are great for picking up a part here and there if you're using mostly real instruments, but just need the occasional synth to cover a specific sound. If you want to completely sequence, I don't think that the instruments that we can use cover what is needed. I'd think better of the set if we could count Structure in our pallet. As is, though, most of the instruments in Xpand are like a synth rack from the mid 90's. Velvet and DB33 are absolutely nothing like modelers such as Lounge Lizard and B4. The absolute deal breaker for me, and anyone that sequences groove-based music from Dance Pop, to Hip Hop, to Dub Step, and so on, is that we don't have access to any sort of sampler at all. The electronic drums available in the presets are very out of date, and, without a sampler, I can't use my own sampled kits. These styles also require lots of sampled bits and pieces: gang shouts, atmospheric effects, stabs, transitions, etc, and ther isn't any way to trigger them. You could manually import each piece, place it on a track, and push it around, but that is the million years way to create a song. In terms of quality, I'd say that the Avid instruments are better than most of what comes with Sonar, but are way behind GarageBand and Logic. It's too bad. Editing in Pro Tools is so fast, that it could be really great for sequencing. Until we get access to a sampler plug in and better instruments, though, I still have to do those sorts of projects in Sonar. If you're working on simple stuff, like simple drums, bass, and keyboard arrangements, though, then it probably be enough. Bryan On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Tim Elder wrote: Hi Brian, You say others have had luck with the accessibility of Avid virtual instruments. Can you further describe the relative accessibility of the Avid instruments? I was considering an investment in the PT virtual instrument collection. As of now I still do most synth programming in Sonar because of the quality of the access to the virtual instruments and then export to Pro Tools for mixing and editing. I would prefer to do more sound generation in PT if the virtual instruments are accessible. Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hello, I'm about to purcase pro tools. I didn't find two questions on the list: 1. I wonder, if it is possible for us to navigate to zero-crossings, like in sonar. 2. How do you use software instruments like Contact, where the buttons to load files, I think, aren't automatable? Thanks for reply Stefan
Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...
Hopefully it won't cost $12,000 like the VideoTim, but, given how expensive it is to manufacturer cells, I doubt that this will be anything approaching affordable, even for those of us with good jobs/income. Thanks for the info, but this isn't really related to Pro TOols, or even recording, so we should take this thread off list. Bryan On May 26, 2011, at 7:17 AM, k.zee...@home.nl k.zee...@home.nl wrote: Hello Everyone, yesterday I was too hasty and its a completely other subject but I want to react on the hyperbraille subject. I went to the link Nickus posted and there was one thing which intrigued me. that was the pixelmode of the display. From what i could gather was that the display was able to display immages and with the technique of the ipad and iphone you can draw immages the flash moovie was too short to figure out all the details but I think it'll be an enormous improvement when this display comes into production. As far as i know now its a project which has to be evaluated. Thanks for the information Nickus. With regards Peter. - Original Message - From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people... got to love Pepper one of my favorite albums of all time. Jake - Original Message - From: k.zee...@home.nl To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people... Hello everyone, there are more factors than the producing alone for instance if you are w0orking with musicians and other things I worked in prostudios which had a good crew and a good building you can buy good stuff for a reasonable price but you cant buy good pros who know their trade they have to work for it. Or you yourself must be good. I read the whole item and i stand on the sideline but do not make yourself dependable on technique because that's only half of it. You have to be creative. Sergeant pepper was made on four tracks. cheers and work hard every one. Peter. - Original Message - From: Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Cc: teall...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:34 PM Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people... Wow guys just finished reading the thread and I am a bit depressed. The bright spot as I see it is there will always be Audiophiles who will insist on the quality recordings that only masters in the field can tern out. Jake - Original Message - From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:15 AM Subject: Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people... Frank, no problem. This is on topic. Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income from either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a project's Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the money came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for an artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials, etc. The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one of the technicians. 1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures. The huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of money to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. This is the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most film and television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, in many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than to spend lots of expensive time to get the great take. 2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no longer is available to support most of the large recording facilities of just a few years ago. As the facilities close, that means less steady work for lots of people formerly employed by the technical side of the recording industry, including engineers. 3. Anyone with $1,000 can record a passable version of a song at home, and anyone with $10,000 and a few years of practice and study can do a competent job of recording and mixing an album at home. There are wonnabee producers and mixers under every rock, and there are so many that they work for little to nothing. They might not have golden ears and decades of experience, but even those that do have found it harder to insist on past pay when there is so much competition and less money available to pay them. Why rent studio time to cut a demo when your buddy can run GarageBand? Why pay someone to write and arrange music for a commercial, and book musicians and a studio
Re: three questions about audio, protools and blind people...
Frank, no problem. This is on topic. Nickus, historically, the tracking or mix engineer receives income from either the studio that employs them, or else was contracted by a project's Executive Producer. In either case, upstream of those people, the money came from larger projects, such as producing demo or album tracks for an artist, work on a film or television project, music for commercials, etc. The studio was the music and sound factory, and the engineer was one of the technicians. 1. Music sales are profoundly low when compared to historical figures. The huge music markets of the 20th century are gone. Since people aren't buying like they used to, no one wants to invest the huge amounts of money to elaborately record artists. From small time to big time recording artists, album production budgets have shrunk to the bare minimum. This is the case in all media. Instead of hiring live musicians, most film and television music is now sequenced. When people are actually recorded, in many cases, recording is kept to a minimum. It is cheaper to edit than to spend lots of expensive time to get the great take. 2. Without the huge in-flow of large recording budgets, the money no longer is available to support most of the large recording facilities of just a few years ago. As the facilities close, that means less steady work for lots of people formerly employed by the technical side of the recording industry, including engineers. 3. Anyone with $1,000 can record a passable version of a song at home, and anyone with $10,000 and a few years of practice and study can do a competent job of recording and mixing an album at home. There are wonnabee producers and mixers under every rock, and there are so many that they work for little to nothing. They might not have golden ears and decades of experience, but even those that do have found it harder to insist on past pay when there is so much competition and less money available to pay them. Why rent studio time to cut a demo when your buddy can run GarageBand? Why pay someone to write and arrange music for a commercial, and book musicians and a studio to record it when someone can be contracted through a web site to throw together some loops with a few overdubs for a couple of hundred bucks? Everyone is trying to make their project happen for less money. So, in summary, there is less money available to support a larger number of people that are attempting to perform this work. It's important not to live under illusions when trying to turn this sort of work in to income. The day of the mega studio and the recording engineer in the traditional sense is pretty much gone, with a few exceptions. The big cities for recording in the US, such as New York, LA, Atlanta, and others still employ people for this sort of work, but the jobs are far fewer, and they're flooded with people with lots of experience in bedroom studios. I know just a few people that still routinely get work in large facilities. The others that I know that are still making money with this sort of work have pretty much given up on the old model, and have turned themselves in to craftsman instead of techies. By that, I mean that they find their own clients, work with them on an on-going basis, and sell themselves as experts in particular types of recording. Even so, they are usually being directly paid by artists, and so are making due on far less money than in days passed. There isn't megabucks in this anymore, except for a small few. If you do it, you should view it as an art that you'd like to pursue, and hope to make enough to sustain yourself. Focus on a niche. Become good at on-site recording of acoustic instruments, find those musicians, and promote yourself. Become good and fast with editing, and fight with the hordes of others competing for jobs online. Become fast at throwing together instrumental tracks and beds in short periods of time so that you can serve the low budget new media people. Moving to the US or UK probably won't help so much. You can hunt up work over the Internet as well as someone in either of those places. Really, though, you must absolutely love this sort of work, because getting anywhere with it today takes a huge amount of time and effort, and the rewards aren't commonly financial. Sorry if that's gloom, but it's how things are. On the positive side, pretty much anyone that wants to record can now record. It's not an elite club anymore, nor does it require a lot of money. Recording music is becoming something that people increasingly do for themselves, rather than depending on technical experts. We're not quite to the point where GarageBand has an auto-mix button, but I don't doubt that a feature like that will show up before too many years. Those with golden ears will say how auto-mixes are lacking in this way or that, but most people won't be able to hear, nor will they care. In that world, you'll be
Re: Would like an opinion on this computer
I know that Avid says that solid state drives haven't been qualified for use with Pro Tools, but I don't understand why that matters. They read and write faster. They seek faster. They are higher performing devices in every regard over mechanical drives, other than price. It is like hearing that Avid has not qualified Pro Tools for computer monitors larger than 42 inches, as if that would matter. I've successfully used them, and have seen people on forums using them, also. I've also used them very successfully with other DAWs. In Sonar, due to their extremely low seek time, you can run with practically no disk buffer, and not get a drop out. Bouncing projects with high track counts is far faster than when using mechanical drives, since the DAW doesn't need to waste time seeking back and forth among the audio files of many tracks while bouncing through a project. Then again, Sonar doesn't need to bounce in real-time. With a real-time bounce, this last speed advantage wouldn't matter. Is the SSD thing a situation where it works, but just isn't officially supported, or is their some pitfall that I haven't run in to yet? Bryan On May 23, 2011, at 9:35 PM, soundog wrote: Yes Jake, I was looking at the 003 interface as an option for you also. I'd go with the 003 Factory though... echoing Frank's suggestion about starting simple, I think you're throwing $700 away with 003 Complete and you haven't even started learning the software yet.Also t's not even the current version of the software so you're going to want to upgrade at some point to PT9. Unfortunately, I haven't found a vendor who's selling a Digi003 bundled with ProTools 9, just with version 8. You don't want a solid state drive for your audio recording drive, not allowed for ProTools. You can get that solid state drive for your internal program drive if you like. For your projects get an external Firewire drive with an Oxford chipset in it, as detailed on the Avid recommended hard drives page http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=380567 I also support Frank's other suggestions for the computer and I'm copying this to your email. regards, Tom On May 20, 12:53 pm, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hello Jake If you are going to have some agency purchase you a computer make sure you include some of the things that you would add on. You really need two drives. One for system and software and one for audio. If it were me I would be buying a machine with a solid state disk. It's really really so so so much faster. The 27 inch imac is the best machine to buy right now if you aren't going to be looking at using hd. So this is a great choice. I'm glad to see that you are getting 8 gb of memory. Make sure that you get them to buy you a control surface and audio interface. I think right now the best thing is probably the 003. I think it has the right controls for the money and the a/d and d/a is good enough. As we talked about on a conference calls some months ago now, you really need to start out with a small analog unit like a portastudio to start understanding how to work with audio. Please do not just jump in to a computer based audio setup with out doing this step first. Get some experience. Go to sessions with helpful engineers. Tom, on this list, is near by you. I'm sure he would love to give you a hand and maybe already is for all I know. HTH --FC On May 19, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Jake wrote: - Original Message - From: Joshua Egdamin To: jake Fry Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: here it is= you save 6% off cpu and 12% off apple care for being a government agency. Apple Store Mac iPod iPhone iPad iTunes Support Apple Store (U.S.) 1-800-MY-APPLE Live Chat Home Shop Mac iMac Configure Help Account Cart Compare Macs MacBook Just $999 MacBook Pro From $1199 MacBook Air From $999 Mac mini From $699 iMac From $1199 Mac Pro From $2499 Configure your iMac. Hardware Pre-Installed Software Service and Support Accessories Promotions Thinking about your first Mac? Answers to some of the most common PC-to-Mac questions Popular Choices Choose from our most popular configurations. Hardware Processor Get amazing performance from the quad-core Intel Core i5 or Core i7 processor, which features four processor cores on a single chip. Choose the speed and processor you want. Learn more The Intel Core i5 and i7 processors are based on new 32-nanometer process technology with an advanced Core microarchitecture that features an integrated memory controller and level 3 cache, giving iMac faster, more direct access to memory. In addition, these processors feature: Turbo Boost 2.0 - a dynamic performance technology that automatically boosts the processor clock speed based on workload, giving you extra
Re: Cubase accessibility
Keep in mind that Cubase AI is like Pro Tools Essentials or Sonar LE. If AI 6 works, maybe the changes will make it to Studio, eventually. Bryan On May 19, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Vincenzo Rubano wrote: I'll test it with great pleasure, but I know that you need an usb-elicenser to activate the tryal version. If you hadn't it, I think you couldn't test Cubase... However, if someone is able to test this program, I would like to know if it is accessible or not, and what are the inaccessible areas... Vincenzo. Il giorno 19/mag/2011, alle ore 17.39, Tim Burgess ha scritto: I'll definitely test this for you. Do you have a download URL for the trial V6, please? Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: 19 May 2011 12:42 To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Cubase accessibility Hi all this is off topic but some might find it useful. I said a while back that I'm going to try cubase and neuendo on mac to check if one of the two is accessible. I have had the chance to test cubase 5 on a system but it had OS 5.8.3 obviously with a older version of voiceover so cubase didn't work. A couple of days ago I contacted steinberg who makes cubase and neuendo asking them if they tested one of their products for accessibility. I got a reply today, it's not as useful as I hoped but the guy told me that the new Cubase 6 is now a coco application where cubase 5 was only modified to work on mac, its core wasn't coco. Because of this he said, cubase6 might be accessible and that I should get the trail version and test it however my employers where I have access to macs would not allow me to install it on their machines to test. So if there's anybody with some time and willingness to test cubase 6 with voiceover, please do and let us know what results you get.
RE: Alphatrack?
Don't think that's a good investment. It and the Tranzport were trying to be nano control surfaces a few years back, but that didn't work out so well. Having one fader is less useful than it sounds. Unfortunately the latest versions of the Behringer BCF2000 that have been shipping out to people have had a dramatic fall off in build quality. And, when Behringer has bad build quality, that is saying something. Oh, won't some company come and save us from this lack of low-end control surfaces? Maybe someone should be brave and buy a few of the vvirtual control surface apps for the iPad. Maybe one of them works. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:31 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Alphatrack? Hi folks, Is any one using the Alphatrack for anything? Thanks. Keith Reedy Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from Bibles For The Blind. http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
Re: protools, midi and VoiceOver
Vincenzo, it would be so much easier if you had a real MIDI controller. You spent hundreds of dollars on Pro Tools. SPending $150 for a cheap controller is not much by comparison. You might seriously wish to spend some time with an app like GarageBand. GarageBand, particularly with VoxKeys, is an easy way to get started with recording on the Mac with a low technical barrier. Bryan On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Vincenzo Rubano wrote: Hi guys, finally I am beginning to understand how protools works..It's great! :-) Well, but now I need your help... I would like to record some midi events, using the virtual instruments contained into xpand, minigrand or similar plugins... But I haven't any midi keyboard, so I looked for a virtual one, and I found midikeys 1.8; it's perfectly accessible and, in the autor's opinion, it supports sending midi events to protools... So I tryed it, but I don't ear any sound from my audio interface when I play notes... I read that protools contains a mouse-virtual-midi keyboard; isn't it? Is it accessible using VoiceOver? And how can I access it? I don't know if the program doesn't work or I am wrong about the procedure; I describe what I do step-by-step below, can you tell me what you think about? In your opinion what's the problem and how can I solve it? 1. I create a new instrument track (mono or stereo); 2. In the mix' window I interact with the track, then I set up midi input to all (there aren't other choices into the pop up menu); 2. I set up midi output to out 1-2, which are the mac's built-in interface' channels; 3. I arm the track for recording into the mix' window and into the transport' window. Vincenzo.
Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase
Cameron, I suggest trying Windows 7. The Win7 drivers are fine. I'm using mine on Win7 64-bit. Bryan On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. If you are considering anything second-hand, I'm selling my project mix. It works fine in pt but I am having issues with the drivers in win xp pro sp3 so need to get a different interface I can use with both systems. If you're interested, hit me up off list. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elexis Gillette Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Thanks for this bit of information. The MCU Pro seems to be a suitable choice for the price. My thinking is that purchasing the control surface will make some processes a bit easier as I can use the buttons and motorized fingers to adjust different parameters. I guess it's more of a preference as I'm sure you can perform these same actions by using the short-cut key strokes of VoiceOver. Lex On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: This is pretty much how it works. Control surfaces aren't popular with most low-end/home users of recording software. Blind people are a special case because a control surface has special value for them. For most sighted people, though, they're on tight budgets, so would rather buy two huge screens rather than a control surface. Many enthusiasts now use their iPad as a control surface, of a sort. If they aren't on a budget, then they don't bother with a little 8 channel surface. It appears that Avid is pretty much content with cashing out the M-Audio brand, and letting it be used to push bargain basement plastic toys at Guitar Center. That's my conclusion for why nearly all pro/prosumer gear from M-Audio has been canceled, and they have a fleet of $200 controllers and low-end interfaces. Besides any of the above, the economy is terrible now, and the recording industry is rapidly fading in to the bedroom studio. Truly pro customers are a dramatically shrinking market, while the casual users with small budgets are on the rise. Even so, music gear is not a necessity, and so many people have significantly cut back on their gear purchases. The result is that many companies are shrinking their product lines, and, in many cases, dropping their mid-range products altogether. Sorry to be gloom and doom, but that's how it is now. Lots of companies are really just trying to make it through the next year or two without going out of business. Control surfaces are not a hotly selling item, and so don't look to see many of them in the near future. The MCU is still available. I suggest it for your situation. You can expand it with XT and C4 units. I don't know when, but I worry that it won't be too long before Mackie discontinues it, also. Bryan On Feb 5, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Yes, that's correct. I've seen some b stock units from various dealers on e bay for the project mix. Also, sweetwater still has some in stock. There are also a ton of FW1884 units out there, in various states of well being, if you want to take the second hand gear plunge. On the topic of the 003, do you know if avid have any plans to make that a MCU compatible surface? I know they have made the new m box drivers universally compatible, it'd be nice if they did that with the 003 but I have come across nothing discussing that at all yet. Being that they have done away with the project mix, and due to the fact that avid owns m audio now, could that be their game plan to corner the market for an all in one unit in that price range? I mean now there is really nothing left to fill that gap. I mean that new 16 channel ssl control surface/interface combo looks nice but it's got two mic preamps and is freaking USB. For five thousand dollars, I'm not exactly sure what their intended market is... Their 24 channel interface/control surface looks like a serious bit of kit but will set you back a whopping seventy nine thousand dollars. Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:56 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase The ProjectMix has been discontinued for a few months now. Since the FW1884 has also been discontinued for about a year, that leaves the Avid units as the only interface+surface combos available new. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hi. The project mix under OS X with pro
Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase
This is pretty much how it works. Control surfaces aren't popular with most low-end/home users of recording software. Blind people are a special case because a control surface has special value for them. For most sighted people, though, they're on tight budgets, so would rather buy two huge screens rather than a control surface. Many enthusiasts now use their iPad as a control surface, of a sort. If they aren't on a budget, then they don't bother with a little 8 channel surface. It appears that Avid is pretty much content with cashing out the M-Audio brand, and letting it be used to push bargain basement plastic toys at Guitar Center. That's my conclusion for why nearly all pro/prosumer gear from M-Audio has been canceled, and they have a fleet of $200 controllers and low-end interfaces. Besides any of the above, the economy is terrible now, and the recording industry is rapidly fading in to the bedroom studio. Truly pro customers are a dramatically shrinking market, while the casual users with small budgets are on the rise. Even so, music gear is not a necessity, and so many people have significantly cut back on their gear purchases. The result is that many companies are shrinking their product lines, and, in many cases, dropping their mid-range products altogether. Sorry to be gloom and doom, but that's how it is now. Lots of companies are really just trying to make it through the next year or two without going out of business. Control surfaces are not a hotly selling item, and so don't look to see many of them in the near future. The MCU is still available. I suggest it for your situation. You can expand it with XT and C4 units. I don't know when, but I worry that it won't be too long before Mackie discontinues it, also. Bryan On Feb 5, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Yes, that's correct. I've seen some b stock units from various dealers on e bay for the project mix. Also, sweetwater still has some in stock. There are also a ton of FW1884 units out there, in various states of well being, if you want to take the second hand gear plunge. On the topic of the 003, do you know if avid have any plans to make that a MCU compatible surface? I know they have made the new m box drivers universally compatible, it'd be nice if they did that with the 003 but I have come across nothing discussing that at all yet. Being that they have done away with the project mix, and due to the fact that avid owns m audio now, could that be their game plan to corner the market for an all in one unit in that price range? I mean now there is really nothing left to fill that gap. I mean that new 16 channel ssl control surface/interface combo looks nice but it's got two mic preamps and is freaking USB. For five thousand dollars, I'm not exactly sure what their intended market is... Their 24 channel interface/control surface looks like a serious bit of kit but will set you back a whopping seventy nine thousand dollars. Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:56 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase The ProjectMix has been discontinued for a few months now. Since the FW1884 has also been discontinued for about a year, that leaves the Avid units as the only interface+surface combos available new. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hi. The project mix under OS X with pro tools nine has had good reviews thus far. What country are you located in? In the states, the project mix sells new for $1249. The pace Ilok is approx fifty dollars. If you're only going to be using pro tools on mac, then I'd suggest trying to find a second hand Digi 003. That would be another very good option. Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elexis Gillette Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:18 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hello, How much is the Ilok in addition to Pro Tools 9.0? Secondly, I'm using MAC only, there will be no windows/sonar use. Third, I have read about the audio project mix previously. Would this be a suitable interace to perate with pro tools? I would rather spend the money to invest in something stable and surable. I believe that the project mix is a little over a grand. Lex On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Yeah, avid pro tools 9 is what you want. You'll need an Ilok too. You won't find an interface and control surface combo
RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase
The ProjectMix has been discontinued for a few months now. Since the FW1884 has also been discontinued for about a year, that leaves the Avid units as the only interface+surface combos available new. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hi. The project mix under OS X with pro tools nine has had good reviews thus far. What country are you located in? In the states, the project mix sells new for $1249. The pace Ilok is approx fifty dollars. If you're only going to be using pro tools on mac, then I'd suggest trying to find a second hand Digi 003. That would be another very good option. Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elexis Gillette Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:18 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hello, How much is the Ilok in addition to Pro Tools 9.0? Secondly, I'm using MAC only, there will be no windows/sonar use. Third, I have read about the audio project mix previously. Would this be a suitable interace to perate with pro tools? I would rather spend the money to invest in something stable and surable. I believe that the project mix is a little over a grand. Lex On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Cameron wrote: Hi. Yeah, avid pro tools 9 is what you want. You'll need an Ilok too. You won't find an interface and control surface combo new for 500 bucks, probably not even second hand. Regarding the interface, How many tracks do you need to record at once? What you could do would be buy a cheapo surface like the bcf2000 and then buy a small firewire interface, focusrite, Mackie, motu, older presonus, etc. Just make sure the interface you buy is AU compliant. Or, buy a more robust interface and save up some cash. Then, buy a second hand Mackie control universal or universal pro. Or, you could try to find a second hand tascam fw1884 or m audio project mix. Both of those units are a combination audio interface, midi interface, and control surface with motorized faders. There is also the Digi 003 of course. It's a well built unit with decent mic preamps etc. however, with all of the three interfaces I just listed, keep in mind that if you are running windos xp/vista under bootcamp on your mac, like if you use sonar for some things you can't accomplish yet in pro tools, then you may have issues with crappy drivers. If you are bootcamping with windows seven, this is less of an issue. So, if we are talking pro tools on mac only, that is one thing. If we are talking about a cross platform interface for multiple DAW applications, then that alters your choices a bit. Lastly, I would advise you to go with a firewire interface and not a USB interface. Good luck, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elexis Gillette Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:51 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Final Questions of Pro Tools before I Purchase Hi, To ensure that I purchase the accessible version of Pro Tools for my MAC, I want to know is it called Avid pro Tools 9.0? I'm sure I have seen the correct version, it is $599.00. I'm not interested in getting the HD version. Also, I need advice on an interface. I'm wanting something where I can possibly have some control surface functionality. Specifically, something no more than $500 if possible? I'm hoping I can acquire something useful in that price range. Thank you for your help in this matter, and I apologize if I have repeated prior questions from other users on this list regarding this matter. I just want to make sure I'm securing the necessary items for recording. Lex=
RE: authorizing PT9
And you'll need the upgrade code from the card in the PT9 box. Eyeballs required. The entire process of upgrading Pro Tools plus plug ins for 9 was not high on my list of pleasant customer experiences. Bryan From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of HF Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:46 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: authorizing PT9 I found it. It's http://www.avid.com/activation Unfortunately for me, the ILok key is registered to the school. So I have to wait till someone puts in the password. HF On 1/26/2011 7:03 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I'm not sure but try http://www.digidesign.com/register Hope that works. Slau On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Is it a long URL or just somewhere on the AVid website. I don't have eyeballs at the moment. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.commailto:fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hey Herman You need to go to avid's website, the correct url is written on the box, and put in the code. It will ask you for your ilok username. Once you've done that go over to ilok.comhttp://ilok.com/ and you should see that you have a authorization waiting for you. You can then transfer that authorization to your ilok and after installing the software you will be up and running. HTH --FC On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Any tips on authorizing PT9? I have the ILok that was used for PT8 connected to the Mac. I can't figure out what I am suppose to click on in order to put in the key that was written on the DVD cover. HF
RE: A lightbulb moment for a possible sampler workaround.
Perhaps this would work. Those files contain the saved settings of the plug in. Nearly all can be adjusted from automation except for the actual instrument file to load. Would help if we could make a version of one of these that contains the instrument file name to load, and then we could adjust the other settings ourselves. However, Avid is well known for not being forthcoming with internal details of Pro Tools, including file formats. Don't know what the chances would be of them giving us any info on these files. A search just now didn't turn up any technical information, but it did reveal several people that have fruitlessly searched for this info in the past. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Reeves Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: A lightbulb moment for a possible sampler workaround. Ok. The subject doesn't make any sense because my mad scientist brain is swimming with an idea and I'm just gonna write stream of consciousness. Something occurred to me about our problems with using samplers like structure, kontact, etc. All those samplers do is to load an external file that's saved somewhere on the hard drive. They have extensions like .gig, .tki, .exs, etc. If logic serves, when a preset it saved using pro tools, that creates a .tfx file, which points to the above mentioned sampler file. How can we access the actual code of the .tfx file and learn it's hierarchy so that we can write them outside of the pro tools environment? If we can learn how to write them in an advanced text editor or compiler, can't we create an automator script to anylize a folder, get all the file names, and input each one into it's own .tfx file? That way, we could quickly create native pro tools presets of otherwise inaccessible presets. I'm not the only one who thought of this. Check out this link. http://protools.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Preset-Maker-Utility/29275-3779 When I bring the .tfx files up in text edit, it's gibberish. Anyone know what language those are written in? Let's get some dialog going on this, because if we can automate the process of making these files, then we can distribute them to everyone, granted that they've saved the installed instruments into the common path. However, to take this a step further, someone could create a small program whereby they tell it where the instrument files are stored, which then alters the automator script to create the tfx files with the propper paths. Any thoughts? Have a great night. Reeves
RE: before starting with pro tools
Hi Vincenzo. 1. I think Pro Tools is available in other languages. However, I don't know if the VoiceOver labels and help tags are in languages other than English. 2. Docs are available in other languages. Slau posted about this today in another thread. 3. There is a Shortcuts guide that lists all of the Pro Tools shortcuts. It is rather large. 4. No tutorial like that exists. 5. The main manual for Pro Tools is the Reference Guide. Reference Guides are books that are intended to be comprehensive lists of all known information on a subject, not tutorials. The Pro Tools Reference Guide gives a little background on terminology, but doesn't spend a lot of time explaining recording concepts. All of the information is there, but you might not comprehend it all right away. 6. You can create music like this, yes. The XPand 2 instrument that comes with Pro Tools has lots of these sorts of sounds in it. Another instrument called Hybrid, that is available with the Instrument Expansion Pack, is another great source of electronic sounds, including basses, leads, pads, textures, as well as lots of sounds driven by step sequences and arpeggiators. There are lots of effects in Pro Tools for creating the animated mixes that are common in those styles, but you'll probably need a hardware control surface to successfully record all of that automation. No worries about your message. You obviously know much more English than I do Italian. I understood it just fine, and that's what's important. Congratulations on scoring your new MacBook, and welcome to the list. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Rubano Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:47 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: before starting with pro tools Hi guys, ok, finally, On 25th december 2010, Christmass Father gave me for present a beautifull macbook pro with I7 processor.. So, at this time, I'm using my mac to do all I did with windows; I can send emails, surf the Internet, use iwork and ilife, and much more... So, I'm thinking about buying pro tools 9... But I have some questions to ask you! 1. Is pro tools interface multilanguage or only English? If it is multilanguage, is it available into italian language? 2. The same question, but related to pro tools documentation (readme, reference guide, etc); 3. Are shorcuts described into the pro tools documentation? 4. Does any tutorial exist which explains all the workaround to avoid unaccessible functions and describe in detail what is accessible and what not? 5. I have a very little knowlege about audio; do you think I can approach pro tools? Or do I have to study any other tutorial before appproaching pro tools? 6. I would like to create dance songs (italo dance/eurodance/techno/commercial/house/etc); can a blind user use effects and all is needed to create these kind of songs? OK, I think now is enough; But of course, I'd like to ask you other questions in future time! I am so excited, but i am also afraid a little... PS: Oh my God! I think in this message there are tons of mystakes; I am so sorry, but I am Italian and I am 16; I study English to school and I know it isn't very good! If you want to report me the mystakes, I will appreciate it too much! :-) Vincenzo. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: MisterCupido.com crea i tuoi regali personalizzati ai prezzi pi? bassi del web... e questa settimana ci sono pi? sconti che mai! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid026d-1
RE: Pro Tools 9 - How to start
It's too complicated to just load up and reason your way through it. Experience with Sound Forge will barely even get you ready for how complicated it is. You need to start reading the reference guide. Just the preferences dialogs go on for screens and screens. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 5:24 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Pro Tools 9 - How to start Hi All, my name is Jürgen and I'm from Germany. I'm fairly new in Pro Tools and after a successful registration of my iLok, what was not that easy, here are the next issues. I'm experienced in using Sound Forge. So I'm not new in sound editing but in using a multi track editor. After installing and starting PT 9 I created a new session. At first I imported an audio file. It was a wav file. But now I don't know how to go on because when I press spacebar for listening to the file, nothing happens. I searched where to adjust the internal sound card of my iMac but I couldn't find anything like that. Probably PT is adjusted to the MBox but I haven't connected a mbox. So you see I really stuck right at the beginning and it was nice if you could help me to start working with Pro Tools. Thanks and best regards Jürgen
RE: Announcing the VoxKeys project
Thanks, Vinny. Can you think of other multi-modifier shortcuts that are needed besides option-command? I can add permutations all day, but would prefer to focus on what is actually needed. I have some basic GarageBand shortcuts that will be in the new release coming out today. The GarageBand 6 user interface is extensively accessible now, but far less complex than PT, of course, so it has been a good proving ground for ideas that I hope to try next in PT. In particular, focus-jumping hotkeys have worked out well. A huge problem with the current version of GB is that, with all of the accessible UI elements, the interface is time consuming to navigate. Pro Tools is the same, but on a larger scale. In GB, though, I've added shortcuts that can quickly bounce the VO cursor to areas of the window, such as the track info group, the timeline, and the editor group. I've also been able to add hotkeys that give you status reports without forcing you to move the VO focus, such as pressing a key to quickly hear the name, type, volume, pan, mute/solo/arm status of a track, etc. Using GB is so much faster with these shortcuts. I'm excited about the potential for Pro Tools. I am, however, worried about key conflicts. Pro Tools really fills up the keyboard. A lot of consideration will need to go to choosing good shortcut keys. Bryan From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vinny Pedulla Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:56 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing the VoxKeys project Hi Bryan, Great work man! I downloaded and installed VOXKeys and it looks very promising. One little minor snag I ran into was with the installer. For some reason I wasn't getting passed the second part of the dialog. The next button was dimmed. I tried a few times and then I tried just using the return key to activate the default action and I did get passed and all went well. This was with v1.1. I think this will be a great addition to Pro Tools accessibility and will try to help any way I can with future shortcuts. When you get around to the next release that includes Pro Tools support ,it would be helpful to have mouse clicks with more than one modifier added. For example Option plus Command with the mouse, but you may be planning this already... Again great work and looking forward to what else you have up your sleeve, Vinny - Original Message - From: Bryan Smartmailto:bryansm...@bryansmart.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.commailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:06 AM Subject: Announcing the VoxKeys project Hi everyone. Here is info about my project, VoxKeys, that is intended to encourage and coordinate the development of scripts for VoiceOver. The first test release didn't blow up anyone's computer, so this second release can probably be risked on a larger audience. Since most all of you here are fairly technical types, I'm enthusiastic about any feedback that you'd care to provide in any regard, from the installer, to the way that the system is organized, to just bug reports. I've included some intro copy below, but, in a nutshell, this is a collection of extensions for QuicKeys. VoxKeys is the name of the set of extensions. Once you install VoxKeys, you can look at the help file for an explanation of why I'm using QuicKeys, as well as technical info toward the end. It is my hope that by extending/scripting VoiceOver and other apps in this way, we all can build a collection of accessibility enhancements that can be installed in a single go. Though Pro Tools is mostly accessible, QuicKeys shortcuts could help dramatically increase our productivity by speeding up navigation tasks. At the moment, there aren't any PT shortcuts, but basic shortcuts for Pro Tools and GarageBand are on the road map for the next release. I'm planning to start out with some simple shortcuts to automatically move the VoiceOver focus around the PT and GB interfaces. Being able to quickly skip to areas of the user interface should make a big impact on increasing the speed that we navigate these programs. However, a general purpose part of VoxKeys that you all will appreciate is the extended shortcuts that it provides for mouse clicks. With them, you can, for example, option click or command click items from the keyboard. Pro Tools uses this in lots of places, and now its easy to do for VO users. There are lots of possibilities for the future. QuicKeys can trigger shortcuts based on MIDI activity. Down the line, we could take a simple external MIDI controller, and have it trigger functions that aren't even available on control surfaces at this point. QuicKeys can also watch the screen, and trigger shortcuts based on what it sees, so audio notifications for clipping meters, being able to set certain parts of the screen to automatically read when they change, and other similar possibilities await us. Okay, here's
Announcing the VoxKeys project
Hi everyone. Here is info about my project, VoxKeys, that is intended to encourage and coordinate the development of scripts for VoiceOver. The first test release didn't blow up anyone's computer, so this second release can probably be risked on a larger audience. Since most all of you here are fairly technical types, I'm enthusiastic about any feedback that you'd care to provide in any regard, from the installer, to the way that the system is organized, to just bug reports. I've included some intro copy below, but, in a nutshell, this is a collection of extensions for QuicKeys. VoxKeys is the name of the set of extensions. Once you install VoxKeys, you can look at the help file for an explanation of why I'm using QuicKeys, as well as technical info toward the end. It is my hope that by extending/scripting VoiceOver and other apps in this way, we all can build a collection of accessibility enhancements that can be installed in a single go. Though Pro Tools is mostly accessible, QuicKeys shortcuts could help dramatically increase our productivity by speeding up navigation tasks. At the moment, there aren't any PT shortcuts, but basic shortcuts for Pro Tools and GarageBand are on the road map for the next release. I'm planning to start out with some simple shortcuts to automatically move the VoiceOver focus around the PT and GB interfaces. Being able to quickly skip to areas of the user interface should make a big impact on increasing the speed that we navigate these programs. However, a general purpose part of VoxKeys that you all will appreciate is the extended shortcuts that it provides for mouse clicks. With them, you can, for example, option click or command click items from the keyboard. Pro Tools uses this in lots of places, and now its easy to do for VO users. There are lots of possibilities for the future. QuicKeys can trigger shortcuts based on MIDI activity. Down the line, we could take a simple external MIDI controller, and have it trigger functions that aren't even available on control surfaces at this point. QuicKeys can also watch the screen, and trigger shortcuts based on what it sees, so audio notifications for clipping meters, being able to set certain parts of the screen to automatically read when they change, and other similar possibilities await us. Okay, here's the copy for general audiences. If you use a Mac with the built-in VoiceOver screen reader, VoxKeys is intended to help you work faster, and access more, than would be possible with only VoiceOver. VoxKeys helps you work faster by adding new shortcuts to applications that will make it possible to quickly access program functions that would have previously required many keystrokes. Other new shortcuts make it possible for you to quickly hear important on-screen information without the need for you to move the VoiceOver cursor. Beyond speeding up tasks that you could normally accomplish with VoiceOver, VoxKeys opens up functions in applications that were previously inaccessible. VoxKeys can directly click and manipulate user interface elements on the screen that are invisible to VoiceOver. VoxKeys can also use Applescript to directly control applications, bypassing their user interfaces altogether, in many cases. These new capabilities are available through new shortcuts that VoxKeys adds to your applications. Currently, VoxKeys provides quick access to status announcements such as date, time, and power, adds new iTunes shortcuts for speaking track information and for quickly accessing controls that normally lack shortcuts (like repeat/shuffle), adds many Skype keyboard shortcuts including globally available answer/hang-up shortcuts, and provides shortcuts for clicking the mouse in ways that VoiceOver is unable. Perhaps its most interesting capability at the moment, though, is support for web apps. Through a combination of directly accessing the object model of a web page, and directly manipulating the mouse, VoxKeys can provide specialized access for web sites when accessed from Safari. Currently, the Netflix and Rhapsody web players are supported. With VoxKeys, you can, in these previously inaccessible players, play/pause recordings, navigate between tracks. Mute/unmute audio, control repeat and shuffle modes, switch to full screen playback, and more. For additional information and to download, go here: http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ Bryan
RE: PT 9, The Expansion Pack and Mac OS 10.6.5
Lol. Vincenzo, did you miss that we're just starting to play with this stuff? I'm the first one to even post about the problem. There may be a workaround, but we've barely defined the problem yet. Keep reading. If we figure out something, we'll probably discuss it here. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vincenzo Rubano Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:03 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PT 9, The Expansion Pack and Mac OS 10.6.5 On dec 22 2010, Brian Smart wrote: Another issue that I discovered is that Transfuser freezes up VoiceOver. Don't know why. Maybe Transfuser's window is too full of busy graphics? It doesn't happen right away, but, soon after opening its window, I'm stuck in the eternal busy, busy, busy, busy state. Vincenzo: Oh, no! I saw (I heard) a video in which a man was describing transfuser; I think it's simply great! So, I am not a pro tools user, but I ask: is there any workaround to fix this problem? If not, is there any other plugin to get the same effects? Vincenzo. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Riccione Relax a Capodanno: Hotel in centro Mezza pensione, solarium, bagno turco e massaggio 2 giorni euro 379,00 complessivo per due persone. * Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11208d=22-12
RE: is there a protools 9 le trial
Discussion of illegal activities, software piracy being at the top of the list, is absolutely prohibited on this list. Anyone that violates this request will be permanently removed. Sorry to be so rough about it, but those of us that make a living with this software are trying to make the case that there is money to be made by Avid through improving accessibility. Those that steel the software really hurt our case. Bryan (moderator) -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 3:38 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: is there a protools 9 le trial there is a torrent though *cough* On 12/22/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: No, there isn't a trial version. There used to be one for much earlier versions of Pro Tools but certainly not for something as recent as 8.0.4 or higher. Slau On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:34 AM, chad wrote: hi is there a protools 9 le trial or no? thanks
RE: PT 9, The Expansion Pack and Mac OS 10.6.5
Vinny, what is happening in Strike is that, when VO focus moves to some controls, a tool tip pops up. When that happens, VO's focus moves out of the window. Since the plug in windows are kind of strange floating windows, and don't show up in the regular Command-` ring, they won't receive focus automatically when the tool tip window disappears. Instead, you're dropped back in to the mix/edit window. A workaround is to move directly to controls with the item chooser. This lets you skip over the controls that bring up tool tips, but doesn't make it possible to actually operate those controls. Another issue that I discovered is that Transfuser freezes up VoiceOver. Don't know why. Maybe Transfuser's window is too full of busy graphics? It doesn't happen right away, but, soon after opening its window, I'm stuck in the eternal busy, busy, busy, busy state. Velvet is pretty good, but I don't think it stacks up to Lounge Lizard. The tine harmonics sound very static. That makes all of the bright dyno pianos sound like cheesy synthetic crap. The old school epiano presets sound accurate, though. Lounge Lizard can produce some beautiful glassy epianos that sound something like what an FM rhodes would sound like if it were a real instrument, and not digitally synthesized. No idea why AIR cut corners. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vinny Pedulla Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:18 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: PT 9, The Expansion Pack and Mac OS 10.6.5 Hi Folks, I finally got my upgrade to PT 9 this weekend along with the expansion pack. So far so good with accessing the instruments in the pack. Since they are using the Avid library menu all the presets are available. I think Strike is very usable not only because it's accessible, but the kits rock as well. The only strangeness I found is the way VO behaves in the plug-in window when Strike is instantiated. Voice Over is not very responsive and looses focus from the plug-in window at times. I don't know if there is some funky refreshing going on with the drum layout. Velvet and Hybrid react more stably and all the presets can be accessed via the librarian menu. I'll let you know how I find the last two instruments after I get a chance to use them for a bit. I did however, upgrade to 10.6.5 to see if that would fix the issues I was having with the Strike window, but no changes as of yet. I did find that PT 9 does seem to work fine for me with the update, but I did clone my drive with Super Duper before I ran the update just in case I need to go back. I'll keep you posted on what ever else comes up with all these areas, Vinny
RE: Pro Tools and sampler plugs
It's a drum machine softsynth that comes with Pro Tools. I use a Yamaha Motif XF6 workstation as my controller. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of trahern culver Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:01 AM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Pro Tools and sampler plugs hey what is boomb? and what hardware midi controler do you use with pt? kind regards trahern.
RE: Pro Tools Hot spot update
I tried Boom and Structure in PT 8 (haven't received my PT9 yet). Boom seems only to work with internal samples, unless I'm missing something, so we can't even use that as a basic sample trigger plug. Structure Free with PT 8 is a total loss. Clicking on a location with the mouse opens a pop-up menu for selecting presets. If you try to click with VoiceOver, the menu opens and immediately disappears. Probably could fix that with QK. It wouldn't matter, though. Once open, the menu doesn't respond to arrows or any other form of keyboard navigation. VoiceOver can't read the menu, either, so it's pretty much out. The synths will undoubtedly change a bit in PT9, so I'll try again when I receive it. Here is a thought. In most cases, we want to use existing plugs, one way or another. For some small situations, though, it might make more sense to write a plug to handle the needed task. There is no way that I have the time to spend with writing a full softsynth, but writing a plug with a simple UI (or else controlled from a file on disk that we edit by hand), that simply plays samples in response to MIDI notes, wouldn't be so difficult. Effects and all of that could be handled on the track inserts, anyway, so no need for a complicated plug. The thing is, to make RTAS plugs at all, you need to go through some sort of vetting process. They don't allow hobbiest or freeware development of plugs and other solutions, unless you're already selling a commercial plug. Maybe they'd make some sort of exception for us. Would prob need to talk to someone there directly, though. The online applications want all of your business details, info about existing products, development timelines, etc. Going that route would require too much please understand the situation, and other pleas for escalation. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vinny Pedulla Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:13 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools Hot spot update Great Bryan, This is something Slau and I have discussed in the passed. We were thinking it may really help in the plugin window: even something as simple as clicking on an invisible button that VO doesn't recognize. I need to grab a copy of QK and start experimenting as well. Let us know what you find... Vinny - Original Message - From: Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: RE: Pro Tools Hot spot update I'm working with QuicKeys. I've started a project to assemble QK shortcuts of use to VoiceOver users. It's partly OT here, but I already have a collection of shortcuts for some apps that I've put together, including iTunes and Skype, as well as for some web apps like the Netflix and Rhapsody players. Pro Tools is an app that could definitely use some help in this area. It is nowhere as easy as scripting for the Windows screen readers to do so, but QK can be set to automatically trigger shortcuts if a test function succeeds. That function can examine the user interface, for example, to watch for a change in a meter or some other value. QK shortcuts can include an Applescript action, so that they can speak directly through VoiceOver, if something useful happens on screen. This combination could be setup so that meters and other important info could automatically speak, if the user activated a particular mode. Just as other food for thought, the shortcuts can also be triggered through MIDI events. This would make it possible to setup a controller or external button box to perform actions when the controls are manipulated. Anyway, I plan to start poking at Pro Tools with QK in the next day or two. Will post what comes of it. If anyone would like to check out my project VoxKeys, in its current form, go to: http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ Bryan From: Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:46 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Pro Tools Hot spot update Hi Listers, I just wanted to give a brief Hot spot update.. To make things easier with hot spots set up the num pad to watch hot spots using num pad # 1 to watch the # 1 hot spot and so-forth.. When your in a plugin Waves Rcomp in this case find the threshold and other important controls you want to find out what your controller is mapped to.. After you set your hot spots with VO shift # 19 just hit the corresponding num pad number for that hot spot and when you touch the correct fader or switch VoiceOver announces any change made to that value.. For instance Threshold minus 6 or what ever you change it to.. If you watch several parameters at once VoiceOver will announce the change of that value and that it was the threshold if that is the one you moved a control for.. Very cool!! In a multi
Pro Tools and sampler plugs
For anyone here that is working with electronic music composition in PT, have you found any sampler plugs that can be made to work with VoiceOver? At minimum, the plug would need to be able to load a few samples that could be assigned to MIDI note events (so triggerable from a controller). The synth plugs for PT seem alright, but I really need to be able to use my own samples in order to drop Sonar for composition. Specifically, I use this sort of thing for triggering drum samples, triggering chopped portions of loops, triggering musical stabs/effects, and so-on. Directly importing audio on to a track isn't really the way to go about this sort of thing. I've thought about trying to make mouse spots/hot spots with QuicKeys to load samples on to pads in Boom. Wanted to see if others have a better idea, though. Bryan
RE: audio IO
Are they using iLok for PT9 now? I always feel very uncomfortable with taking it places. If it doesn't get lost or damaged, it is an extremely easy to swipe target when sticking out of the side of a laptop.If I were showing it at a trade show, for example, I'd have to have it on the far end of a very long USB extention cord. If you lose your iLok, they will not replace it and your licenses. Official recommendation is to take out an insurance policy for it. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:38 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: audio IO Hey Herman, If I understand your question, you're asking about displaying I/O paths in the edit window. You can set your preferences for what the Mix and Edit windows display in the menu bar under the submenu that says something like, Mix Window Shows... and Edit Window Shows... I'm not at the studio right now so I don't have Pro Tools in front of me and can't give you a precise location for that submenu. Alas, as soon as I install Pro Tools 9, I'll be able to answer questions like this from anywhere. My, how the world has changed, eh? :) Best, Slau On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:28 AM, HF wrote: How do I make them appear in the edit window? I made an aux track yesterday and they were exactly where I thought they would be. Then I inserted a stereo track and instead of of the audio IO I had comments. I was able to get to the Audio IO when interacting with the track in the mix window. Is this normal or am I missing something again? HF
RE: PT 8.0.3-4 and or 9
Perhaps the newer model is easier to work on. The 2009 models were profoundly dangerous. Iddy bitty screws, with shafts that are shorter than the heads are wide, and constructed cheaply, so will strip if you look at them wrong. I've built at least a few dozen PCs over the years, and have disassembled many laptops in order to upgrade components and make repairs, including densely compact ultra sub-notebooks like the Libretos and Fivas. I consider myself quite comfortable with electronics and computers. However, I will never again open this MacBook Pro. Once, or maybe twice more, even with extreme care, and I expect that I'll be sadly drilling in to this shiny aluminum in order to remove a stripped screw. You might be an experienced person, but I caution you to be beyond careful. The MacBook Pro is not built like any other laptop that I've worked on before. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:03 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: PT 8.0.3-4 and or 9 Hi I received my copy of PT 9. I got it with the mbox 2 mini which came with 8.0.3. Can I install them both at the same time? Of course I would update the 8.0.3 to 8.0.4. I bought a 15 inch i7 MBP on Monday. I am upgrading the ram to 8gb and the disk to a 240gb ssd. I think I'll wait until Friday when that stuff gets here to do the install. I was going to have Apple do the upgrades in store but they don't carry the hardrives. I spoke with two Apple techs who assured me that I would not have any problem installing ram and a hd in this machine. I've taken apart my Asus eee pc to replace its' drive and that was really simple. I guess this years model MBP is a bit easier to work on. They also assured me that I would not be voiding any warranty,. I am headed to NYC on Monday and I wanted a machine other than a mini to drag with. I grabbed a usb disk carrier for the 5400 rpm 500gb drive that I am pulling out of this thing. I also am getting a 7200 rpm drive and a firewire 800 catty for it. Can't wait to have this up and running will all the new hardware. It's tough getting used to the keyboard on it. --FC
RE: Pro Tools 9? Am I really seeing what I'm seeing here?
When it comes to their controllers, I've always heard nothing but good when it comes to the quality of the keyboard and, particularly, the heavy duty quality of the housing. That means a lot in the age of cheap and plastic controllers. However, I've heard other complaints about the control surface. I suggest the UF series to people a lot for a high end controller. That is just the keyboard without the controller features. You're right about SOS. When they torpedo a product, there is good reason. They're always eager to gloss over problems, though they at least mention them. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 5:59 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 9? Am I really seeing what I'm seeing here? Thought it was worth pointing out for anybody who isn't a regular SOS reader that the review Bryan linked too is utterly damning when you compare it to their standard of complementary writing around that time. Of course, it was Dec 2007, so firmware updates from CME could've changed the game by now, but still... On 11/5/10, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: It might be worth it to pause for a week or two and wait for some reputable places to actually try/review PT 9 before getting too excited. I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that the support with non Avid interfaces isn't quite as high performing and stable. And, Kevin, would be careful before going CME. The keyboards on those are great, but I haven't heard much of anything about people using the integrated control surface with Pro Tools. I have, however, heard that the faders aren't touch sensitive, and that the programming is a bit buggy. Look at this review in SOS: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec07/articles/cmevx8.htm Besides, if you have MPowered, the crossgrade is $350 for the basic PT 9, and $650 if you get it with the full plug in suite. And those are upgrade prices. *shrug* MPowered is affectively dead, and Pro Tools 9 is what LE used to be. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro Tools 9? Am I really seeing what I'm seeing here? Hi It looks like this is already a product you can buy. I was on the phone with sweet water on Saturday and they mentioned nothing about this. I guess that's what happens in a weeks time. Slau how is the accessibility in pro tools 9. I really need to be looking at buying a solution as soon as possible. I have some projects coming up that I need to have a rig for. Maybe I can use the echo audiofire 12 that I bought last year after all. I am so pumped. --FC On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Ok folks. If I'm reading this right, everything is about to change with Pro Tools 9. According to the below link, you'll be able to use any interface you want, and mix using the internal sound on your computer. Wow. If this is true, I'm springing for that CME rig for live use. It's on and poppin. http://www.sweetwater.com/emails/pt9/indexmp.html
RE: selecting multiple tracks
Just press all of the select buttons at once. Want to select tracks 2 and three, press both select 2 and select 3 down at the same time. I think that all of the HUI control surfaces work like that. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:15 PM To: ptaccess Subject: selecting multiple tracks I'm using the digi003 right now. I know this is logical but I think I'm missing something. How do you select multiple tracks from the boared? It only selects one at a time. So if I select 1 through four, only track 4 shows up as selected in the track table. HF
RE: Starting from zero with PT and VO
No Logic, no Ableton. You're not going to be able to do anything with those programs. You don't need to do anything special to make VoiceOver work with Pro Tools. However, you do need to learn how to use VoiceOver. . If you haven't been using a Mac, you really should get familiar with VO before you try to dive in to Pro Tools. PT is a huge program, with many keyboard shortcuts, and you'll go crazy trying to cram VoiceOver at the same time. It doesn't work like a Windows screen reader, so you'll definitely need time to get your head around it. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casey Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:05 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Starting from zero with PT and VO Hi guys, I'll put my question first, I haven't time to fish around on the group and I'm not too familiar with Google groups, so apologies for the lazyness of this question. Would any of you be kind enough to giv mea link to somewhere that details how to get going with voice over in ProTools if its already been covered on this group, if not would you mind explaining? I've just enrolled in a brand new masters programme in my nearist city doing music and technology, and haven't touched PT before. I'm well experienced with sonar though. Does Voice over start interacting with ProTools from start up or is there some kind of control surface to bring up or a setting to change? I'm a few chapters into the ProTools manual at the moment, so any advice anyone has to offer would be much appreciated. I'll mainly just have to complete projects tracking live instruments between now and Christmas so won't need to do any hugely detailed editing or anything, but will probably have to start mixing stuff. How is Voice over behaving with the bundled plugins with PT? And two more things. There is one module in my course that will be dealing with logic pro, is that totally out for Voice over till next year? I heard tell that Apple were working on it but I'm not really in the loop with these things. I might just get away with using sonar for those parts as I think the logic work in my course will primarily be midi, and it will be flexable. Are there any people out there muddling along with Ableton live, because there are talks of dipping to that also. I'd imagine most programmes have some limited degree of accessability with Voice over at least, as in it will read menus and maybe pull up presets? That may be enough in logic for example. Between that and keyboard short cuts. Finally, thanks everyone on this group, I've been reading silently for the last while, and haven't even touched a mac, used voice over or gone near any Protools hardware yet, but I'm better prepared because of all your questions, solutions and what not. So thanks in advance from an embarrassingly stereotypically wet Ireland! Brian.
RE: VoiceOver with Pro Tools
Here is a thought for monitoring speech. Like Kevin says, use a mixer with several buses as your monitoring mixer. Computer speech needs to be on a strip that you can route to a bus. Connect a pair of open-air headphones to the bus. This is important. Don't use nice closed-back headphones, as you can't hear the room or monitors through them. Don't use ear buds, as they partially block your ear, and attenuate the sound a lot. Big fluffy foam pad open headphones are the thing. You can hear through them, and, since they cover both ears, at least the tiny bit that they do attenuate the sound will be even on both ears. If your mixer supports it, pan the bus hard over, so that the computer is just speaking in one ear. I find that one-ear speech is easy to separate out from conversations in the room. If you need to switch off the monitors and listen through headphones, then there isn't any problem with using good quality open headphones. Sure, they let the room sound in, but they don't over-hipe the bass like closed headphones do. They leak sound, but you don't need to worry about that unless you're tracking in the same room. You can get some great ones for $30 at Best Buy. lol. Good cheap solution. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:09 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver with Pro Tools Hey Herman, I tend to think of the screen reader as being one more thing on the list of noises to keep under control to avoid the volume levels of the session ramping up and up. Depending on your role during the configuration stages, screen reader output can be even more important than the audio itself, so I'd definitely third what Slau and Chuck said about always having the option of going straight into your ear available for those situations. For me, the decision about when to beam Mr screen reader directly into Mr brain is a 50-50 balance between what's practical and what's eligant, practical being you needing to hear fine detail in a noisy control room, eligant being that although your clients are relaxed about the way the blind dude works, they'll be less blown away by having to shout over that robot who talks way too damn much all of a sudden. On a side note which is probably more to do with VO being too chatty rather than session conduct though, I had a revelation that I'm not sure if you already know about. With VO, you can shut the speech up by hitting the Ctrl key. Standard stuff for pretty much every screen reader I hear you say, and you'd be right. But, the differences with VO are two-fold: 1. VO actually shuts up on key release, not key down. Important to know if you want it to be silenced ASAP. 2. Hitting control again will pause the stream of speech from where it left off. It resumes on key release too BTW. I figured this out a couple of months ago when I found myself getting really frustrated with VO seemingly not doing as it's told, I'd be thrashing away at the control button or just hitting it once and holding it down for the next keystroke etc, and it'd still be jabbering away over whatever I was trying to do. Figured I'd mention it here because once you understand how the behaviour works, it's a neat way of having just that little bit more control. It's not documented anywhere I've been able to find either, silly silly Apple! Hth Scott On 9/8/10, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herman, I use to go to great lengths keeping The screen reader in my headsets but most people don't seem to mind the strange voice chattering! LOL I always have it available to flip a switch and Outspoken or VoiceOver runs silent to the client. This is sometimes a session saver especially when you have a over caffeinated musician in the control room LOL Always have that option to run it into the headsets along with the PT session audio Talk soon Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I trust! All others pay cash! On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Herman, Most often, my clients are fascinated by the screen reader. It's never been a problem. If anything, the control room sometimes gets a bit noisy for me when clients are discussing parts, arrangements, etc. In those cases, I sometimes find it a bit hard to hear the screen reader. I have a pair of earbuds right next to me at all times which I can easily plug right into the video monitor which is hosting the Mac's system output. when folks are tuning up or warming up and I'm taking levels, I use the dim switch on the control|24 to attenuate Pro Tools by 20 dB which is often enough to read levels clearly. Otherwise, just lowering the volume knob substantially should do the trick as well. Of course, if you're recording someone in the same room, there's probably no work-around
RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro
Those PCI and PCIE interfaces are only for Pro Tools HD. They obviously only run on a Mac Pro, though it is possible to run them on some specific models of older Macbooks along with some external enclosures. The USB and Firewire interfaces work with both Pro Tools MPowered and LE, but different ones work with each. M-Audio interfaces work with MPowered. The various Avid/Digi USB/Firewire interfaces work with LE. You can run MPowered or LE on a MacBook, IMac, or Mac Pro. However, when you run them on a MacBook, you give up a lot of performance in exchange for the portability. When you run them on an iMac, you save a lot of money over the Mac Pro, but there are lots of restrictions on what gear you can use together. Some of those restrictions are changing, though. The newest 27 inch iMac comes with two hard drives: a solid state drive and a mechanical drive. You can install the OS and Pro Tools on the solid state disk for performance, and use the mechanical drive as your data/audio drive. That still leaves both the Firewire and USB ports free for an interface. You could, for example, attach a ProjectMix I/O audio interface/control surface and run MPowered, or attach a 003 audio interface/control surface and run LE. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RvR Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:07 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi Frank, You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered pro tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio. Do those not work with the m-powered version of pro tools? One of the main reasons to buy a Mac Pro is the use of pci cards. I only need an audio interface for the moment. Although the choice for a Mac Pro may be obvious for real power users, but I ain't that just yet. Both the iMac and Mac Pro have their pros and cons. Regards, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 22:28 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote: Hello, Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision. First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also? I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on. Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the obvious way. Or is firewire also an option? For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb. In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution. Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that was. Do you want something with a built in control surface? If so the 003 is probably a good fit. I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon 2.8. Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list. I lean towards the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it. Also you can easily upgrade the memory and hard drives. You can also put four hd's in the pro. Maybe I will have some more questions later on. I don't mind answering questions. This stuff seems to come up a lot on the list. Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices? Hope that helps --FC
RE: paus?
What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
RE: download link for 8.0.4 LE
Scott, it told me that is a protected URL. Access denied. I think that you tried to link me directly to the DMG. That could be good, if it worked, but it would be more helpful to get a link to the files list for HD. For example, check this link out. These are the sort of pages that I link to for MPowered and LE. http://secure.digidesign.com/services/avid/kb/downloads.cfm?digiArticleId=41974localeCode=en Did you see one like that for HD? I'd also like to link to just their downloads area for Pro Tools, but I can't find it. I'm sure that, with enough time, I could work it out. I'm at ACB this week, though, and I barely have time to check e-mail and touch a few online projects. I appreciate your time with doing the hunting, and I'll do the formatting/posting. In the long-term, though, I need to know my way around that site better, but, honestly, that is one of the worst organized sites that I've ever encountered. Setup like it is, they could release patches or other updates, and you might never run in to them. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:54 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: download link for 8.0.4 LE Hey Bryan, Here's a link to the 8.0.4 HD update for Mac: http://akmedia.digidesign.com/akdlm/support/secured/Pro_Tools_HD_804_Updater_66745.dmg?dlm=1ns=1aktoken=1279108362_b24ef689e21b4d5493353d94f975f464None Seems to work without being logged in to my account here, so hopefully it will at your end too. Hth Scott On 7/14/10, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: I'm finishing up a links page on the PTAccess site that will link directly to the updaters. I thought that I still had the link for HD, but can't find it. Does anyone still have it? If so, please post. I've been searching the Avid site for 45 minutes. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: download link for 8.0.4 LE http://secure.digidesign.com/services/avid/kb/downloads.cfm?digiArticl eId=41974localeCode=en
RE: download link for 8.0.4 LE
I'm finishing up a links page on the PTAccess site that will link directly to the updaters. I thought that I still had the link for HD, but can't find it. Does anyone still have it? If so, please post. I've been searching the Avid site for 45 minutes. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: download link for 8.0.4 LE http://secure.digidesign.com/services/avid/kb/downloads.cfm?digiArticleId=41974localeCode=en
RE: naming controls with VoiceOver
Scripts/macros will be a better solution. They'll be able to count tracks. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:09 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: naming controls with VoiceOver I guess I need to clarify something because at least one person misunderstood and I might not have made myself clear. So, VoiceOver will not assign a custom label for controls like record buttons automatically, based on track name. This is, of course, how it should be. However, if one wanted to specifically rename a particular record button on a particular track to be named something specific, one could do that. Of course, this would have to be done for every button in every track if one wanted to rename each button. Ultimately, the database for VoiceOver would grow and well, that wouldn't be very clever. Anyway, Hope that makes it clearer. And if that's not clear enough, Control-Option-slash is your friend and experimentation is fun and informative. :) Slau On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Slau, That is extremely cool! Knowing my self a PT template with my track lay out mite be in order! LOL Good work Man! Chuckles On Jul 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: As Popeye used to say, Well, blow me down! I never expected this behavior but, apparently, it is possible to label controls like the record button to a custom name to differentiate them when using an Item Chooser list. In other words, if one were so inclined, one could label each record button something like Kick Record Button or Snare Record Button or whatever. In the Item Chooser menu the buttons are described as Kick record Button or Armed Kick record Button. VoiceOver does say the word custom to point out that the label is not the default but a custom label. Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that it would work this way but, there you go. Slau Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: first thoughts.
Use the item chooser to find the track name, then, at least, you're on the right strip. Bryan On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: first thoughts. Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF
RE: first thoughts.
I've been having lots of luck with QuicKeys. After trying it and Keyboard Maestro , I think that sticking with QuicKeys is the best choice. We can directly interact with the UI, can control VoiceOver and other apps through Applescript, and can program complex mouse actions (like click at a point, click and drag, and even full mouse recording). QK also has support for writing your own functions to save as part of your shortcuts, supports variables and decision making, and the shortcuts can be easily installed on peoples' computers without any complicated instructions. All of those aren't available with Keyboard Maestro. As part of my experiments, I've started a collection of general functions and other tools that will help with VoiceOver scripts down the road. To test these, I've been building up a set of shortcuts for other, simple, applications, like Skype, iTunes, etc. I'll release these to Mac Visionaries for testing in about a week or so. After feedback on that pans out well, and we've run down all of the bugs with the installer, I will start putting a framework in place for us to create and contribute shortcuts for Pro Tools. These won't quite be like real screen reader scripts, like CakeTalking or JSonar, but they should help speed up working in Pro Tools. I can easily make modifications like having certain area of the screen read automatically, or creating shortcut keys that can jump you directly to an area of the screen. The hot spot support will also help with some of the inaccessible plugs. Anyway, the way QK works, it isn't possible to protect the scripts, so it isn't possible to sell them. Because of that, I can't pour many many hours in to this project. I can et it up, though, so that we can all contribute shortcuts here and there, and combine them in to a set that can be generally shared. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. Hey scott, Well, much like what we had under OS 9, individual buttons are not labelled by track as they are generic controls and can be created on the fly. As Bryan mentioned, it is certainly possible to navigate to the channel strip itself, interact and, if inserts and sends are hidden, especially, it's like one or two keystrokes and you're on the record button. Otherwise, as you mentioned, it's usually a wise choice to limit what's being shown in the mixer in order to keep things simple. Also, as Clarence mentioned, a control surface expedites things an enormous amount, as we all know. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, The item chooser is indeed a huge help with the edit/mix windows. Have you by any chance figured out a neat way of figuring out which record ready in that list applies to which track. I know, they go in chronological order, but if you've got a lot of tracks shown at once it'd be handy to know. Up until now, my solution to the problem has been a simple one: I don't show a lot of tracks at once lol. Cheers Scott On 7/8/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, There is a way to navigate groups of controls through the Item Chooser. For example, one could narrow down all Record enable buttons by typing rec and the list narrows down to the visible record buttons. Regarding editing of audio tracks, it has virtually nothing to do with VoiceOver, specifically. Pro Tools has an enormous number of keyboard shortcuts for editing. that said, one might occasionally have to refer to bar|beat location or Edit Group status information with VoiceOver commands. HTH, Slau On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:51 AM, John André Netland wrote: Hi guys, I have downloaded the upgrade to 8.0.4, but not yet bought the application or a proper interface. Is it possible/allowed for you to publish the manual in pdf format to those of us that are interested? Smile. Of course, it would also be very interesting to know if you can navigate through for example all controls of the same type for each track, like all record enable buttons, or maybe you have to interact with each track? I guess also people are curious about what possibilities you have to do specific editing with audio/midi material, like trimming/moving takes etc. and how you do that with VO. OK, enough for now, I think. Smile. Thanks, John andré On 8. juli 2010, at 04.47, clarence griffin wrote: I have said manual open right now. lol. Bastard! lol GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: The information you seek is in the ProjectMix User's Guide, under the title Pro Tools Mode. So, as you frequently say, read the manual! lol. I love doing that to you. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com
RE: 8.0.4 LE is out
If it is really this hard to find, then, when you find it, please post the link here, so I can add it to a page on the PTAccess site. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:36 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 8.0.4 LE is out I am on the site, I will find it by tomorrow or something. lol. when I do find a link, I will try to post it here. GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yeah, I know. The site is a mess with all it's content. I haven't downloaded the update yet and won't be able to until after the ACB convention. You're a pioneer, sir! Slau On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:22 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I am really having a time with this site. it looks like I have to add it to my cart, or am I doing that wrong? GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Software Updater doesn't work on new releases for a few days, from what I understand. Getting it from the avid site is the only way right now. Slau On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:15 PM, clarence griffin wrote: when I run the software updater, it doesn't work. I will now try the avid site. GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: And, yes, that includes M-Powered, apparently. Slau
RE: first thoughts.
It did for me, but I haven't installed the final version yet. You might be right. I'm just giving you a hard time, anyway. *smile* Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:07 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. The installer didn't mention anything, I will look them up though. If it did, I may have over looked them., witch is more than likely the case. I tried to read everything. I will work it all out though, some how. lol GF On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: yep. You also must turn off the other shortcuts that were mentioned by the installer. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:56 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: first thoughts. I thought command space was for the spot light thing? I guess I am going to have to turn that off? GF On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi clarence, To record interact with the track and navigate down till you see the track record enable button VO space bar on it and AT this point it will flash armed now just hit command space bar that will start recording.. Talk soon On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:22 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Well, For not reading any manuals or getting started guides, I think I have made some pretty cool findings with pt... I was messing around with fx on an audio track, soft synths, and other stuff. I am having a couple lil problems though. 1, I can't seam to get my project mix to talk to pt, and 2, I don't know how to start recording. lol. I have the Project Mix in pt mode, witch is done by turning the unit on while holding the first aux button down... Any help with these matters would be appreciated. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
RE: Will all versions be updated
Hi. MPowered will contain the access features. I was on the beta, used MPowered (still do), and the access features are in that version. The delay doesn't have anything to do with accessibility. Remember that, beyond accessibility, version 8.04, to the larger world, is all about improving Pro Tools support and stability with OS X 10.6. MPowered works with different audio hardware than HD or LE, so there are slightly different concerns for Avid to address with its release than with those other two versions. When they're ready, and they release 8.04, the accessibility features will already be there, and it will be a free upgrade for you as an 8.X license holder. Your current software isn't accessible, but I'd suggest that you go ahead and open it. You should go ahead and do the following: 1. Be sure that your M-Audio interface drivers are installed on the Mac. Some M-Audio interfaces will work on a basic level without drivers, but you need drivers before you'll be able to use it with Pro Tools. 2. Your software box contains a USB copy protection device called an iLok. You need to go to the iLok web site, register your iLok, and download/install the drivers that will allow it to run on your Mac. Without the iLok, Pro Tools won't have authorization, and so won't run. 3. Install Pro Tools. You can't use the version that you have, but, when 8.04 is released, it will probably update your existing Pro Tools, rather than permit a fully fresh install. This isn't clear yet, since the update hasn't been released, but I suspect that is how it will work. These steps will take a bit of time. By the time that you finish them, the update will probably be ready. You will absolutely have access in 8.04. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ginny Owens Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:32 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Will all versions be updated Hello. I bought MPowered the other day but don't want to open it until I'm sure that 8.0.4 will be released for it, and that it will be accessible. Is it possible that MPowered may not contain the accessibility features? I know it's a dumb question, but I just want to confirm. Thanks.
RE: updating?
The updater should work. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clarence griffin Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:34 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: updating? There is an app in my digidesign folder called software updater, can I use that to check if the update is out, or do I have to keep going to avid.com? GF
RE: control surfaces
It is important to be aware, if you choose LE, and consequently to work with Avid/Digi interfaces, then you won't have the best results if you also use other DAWs besides Pro Tools. In particular, Sonar doesn't work well with Avid/Digi interfaces. If you're going exclusively Pro Tools, then it won't matter. If you want to run both on a single machine, MPowered is better. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:37 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: control surfaces Hi Michael, For the LE side of things, I use the Digi 003, in this case, the desktop version which includes the control surface. It's Avid's best offering in the LE domain. From there, it's up to the HD systems. Slau
Large tracking projects, was RE: While we're doing intros...
Besides Pro Tools, your only other professional accessible solution is Sonar. You'll have to setup BootCamp on your Mac, and boot in to Windows to run it. You'll need: Sonar Jaws 8 or newer A Jaws scripts package for Sonar like CakeTalking or JSonar. JSonar is free, but not quite as stable in some areas of Sonar. If all that you're doing is tracking, though, it will be fine. CakeTalking comes with a 400+ page book of how-tos for a blind user of Sonar. If you want to get a job accomplished quickly, and have access to procedures for how to accomplish the tasks as a blind guy, then CakeTalking is worth it. Sonar doesn't impose artificial limitations on how many inputs you can record at once. You just need the interface and computer to pull it off. A newer MBP can record to 24 tracks at once via Sonar easily. However, if you're working exclusively from the internal drive, you'll need to live with some latency in order to have everything operate smoothly. A higher-end iMac or Mac Pro can handle it no problem at all. I don't know of any 24 input Firewire interfaces that can be stacked off-hand. Most that I've seen stop at 16 inputs. If you're using a Mac Pro, though, you can high-end Lynx or RME cards, which will work fine with Sonar under BootCamp. The trick, of course, is getting something that can also be used with Pro Tools when you need to operate on that side. I haven't tried this, but Reaper, at least on Windows, might be able to help with the tracking on the cheap. There is access to it via Jaws. It's mixing capabilities aren't on the level of Sonar or Pro Tools, but it might be able to track that many inputs for you, if raw tracking is all that you need. Let us know how it works out. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: While we're doing intros... Hello again I just reread the thread on mac visionaries and found your response about Logic. So no need to reply. It does lead me to another question though. If I want to use any old firewire a/d d/a for at least 24 tracks of recording it will need some software to do it other than PT. What would be recommended? I'm trying to avoid spending $11,000 plus to get a 24 track recording solution. If I'm spending that much maybe I will just buy a radar. The $11k would be 2 Lynx Auroras and PT HD. Thanks --FC On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi Brian On Jun 13, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: There isn't another list right now, because there are only a few people using Logic, either with really hard-to-get-going approaches, or with tools that they can't share/talk about. For all practical purposes, it isn't an accessible DAW yet. The scripts that were linked to on the mac visionaries list a month or so ago are what I was going to try. I grabbed a copy of them but I don't have logic now so I haven't tried them yet. Any idea if they work? I'll see if I can find the link again. I went back and forth with Apple accessibility about Logic. All they could tell me is they have no information at this time. I took that to mean that it will be coming in some version at some point. You might have better luck with either the VIMac-Audio list (general Mac audio talk), or with MIDIMag (general music production talk for blind guys on all platforms). www.midimag.org Good tips. Thanks. Regards --FC
