RE: Will all versions be updated
Hi. MPowered will contain the access features. I was on the beta, used MPowered (still do), and the access features are in that version. The delay doesn't have anything to do with accessibility. Remember that, beyond accessibility, version 8.04, to the larger world, is all about improving Pro Tools support and stability with OS X 10.6. MPowered works with different audio hardware than HD or LE, so there are slightly different concerns for Avid to address with its release than with those other two versions. When they're ready, and they release 8.04, the accessibility features will already be there, and it will be a free upgrade for you as an 8.X license holder. Your current software isn't accessible, but I'd suggest that you go ahead and open it. You should go ahead and do the following: 1. Be sure that your M-Audio interface drivers are installed on the Mac. Some M-Audio interfaces will work on a basic level without drivers, but you need drivers before you'll be able to use it with Pro Tools. 2. Your software box contains a USB copy protection device called an iLok. You need to go to the iLok web site, register your iLok, and download/install the drivers that will allow it to run on your Mac. Without the iLok, Pro Tools won't have authorization, and so won't run. 3. Install Pro Tools. You can't use the version that you have, but, when 8.04 is released, it will probably update your existing Pro Tools, rather than permit a fully fresh install. This isn't clear yet, since the update hasn't been released, but I suspect that is how it will work. These steps will take a bit of time. By the time that you finish them, the update will probably be ready. You will absolutely have access in 8.04. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ginny Owens Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:32 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Will all versions be updated Hello. I bought MPowered the other day but don't want to open it until I'm sure that 8.0.4 will be released for it, and that it will be accessible. Is it possible that MPowered may not contain the accessibility features? I know it's a dumb question, but I just want to confirm. Thanks.
Re: Will all versions be updated
It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to note. While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in the beta release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually confirms it with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee it. By all means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were implemented but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded and installed the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have not yet gotten around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else? This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible that things might've changed before the release. That's why most companies ask testers not to talk about beta versions. In case something happens and a feature must be shelved until a future release, they don't want people to have expectations. Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have a chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best.
Re: Will all versions be updated
Jerry, A beta release as you just noted, is *not* a commercial release. to my mind commercial releases are official. If digi backs this, then why have they not told you, firmly, that the changes exist? Karen On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Slau Halatyn wrote: Karen, I'm not sure what you mean by official release. Of course, it's officially a Pro Tools release. If you mean, whether it has the changes implemented in the beta, again, I don't mean to alarm anyone but I have yet to hear of someone downloading the update, installing it and confirming the changes. I'm cautiously optimistic. Anyone? Just asking again. If I have a chance on Monday, I'll try to confirm. Slau On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: So, this is not an official release yet? This is why I am waiting. until its officially out, anything can happen. Karen On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote: no upgrade to get yet. GF On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to note. While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in the beta release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually confirms it with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee it. By all means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were implemented but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded and installed the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have not yet gotten around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else? This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible that things might've changed before the release. That's why most companies ask testers not to talk about beta versions. In case something happens and a feature must be shelved until a future release, they don't want people to have expectations. Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have a chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best.
RE: Will all versions be updated
Thanks much, Brian. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:46 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Will all versions be updated Hi. MPowered will contain the access features. I was on the beta, used MPowered (still do), and the access features are in that version. The delay doesn't have anything to do with accessibility. Remember that, beyond accessibility, version 8.04, to the larger world, is all about improving Pro Tools support and stability with OS X 10.6. MPowered works with different audio hardware than HD or LE, so there are slightly different concerns for Avid to address with its release than with those other two versions. When they're ready, and they release 8.04, the accessibility features will already be there, and it will be a free upgrade for you as an 8.X license holder. Your current software isn't accessible, but I'd suggest that you go ahead and open it. You should go ahead and do the following: 1. Be sure that your M-Audio interface drivers are installed on the Mac. Some M-Audio interfaces will work on a basic level without drivers, but you need drivers before you'll be able to use it with Pro Tools. 2. Your software box contains a USB copy protection device called an iLok. You need to go to the iLok web site, register your iLok, and download/install the drivers that will allow it to run on your Mac. Without the iLok, Pro Tools won't have authorization, and so won't run. 3. Install Pro Tools. You can't use the version that you have, but, when 8.04 is released, it will probably update your existing Pro Tools, rather than permit a fully fresh install. This isn't clear yet, since the update hasn't been released, but I suspect that is how it will work. These steps will take a bit of time. By the time that you finish them, the update will probably be ready. You will absolutely have access in 8.04. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ginny Owens Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:32 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Will all versions be updated Hello. I bought MPowered the other day but don't want to open it until I'm sure that 8.0.4 will be released for it, and that it will be accessible. Is it possible that MPowered may not contain the accessibility features? I know it's a dumb question, but I just want to confirm. Thanks.
Re: Will all versions be updated
wow, I can't believe that we are getting in to this heated debate like this. lol Kind of funny. I just wish they would hurry the hell up and drop this thing so we all can play with it! F**k all that BS you guys are talking. lol. In my experiences as a beta tester, Programmers don't want to do extra work to take something out of a 99.9 percent completed program. If the last beta was accessible and avid was directly in touch with blind people for their input, what would make anyone think that they would strip all that work out of the final product? that would realy mean undoing pretty much everything they did over the last months. How smart would that be? Just my thoughts. GF On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Karen, First, please call me Slau. Second, Digidesign never guarantees that anything in a beta will appear in the final release. Now, listen carefully: I have no reason to believe the changes were not implemented. I have every reason to believe they are. All I said was that, until someone confirms it with the commercial release of 8.0.4, we can't say with absolute certainty that everything is as we've expected. What did you learn as a journalist? Check your facts. That's all I'm suggesting. Once again, all I'm saying is that we're talking as if it's a done deal but I have yet to hear that someone has installed 8.0.4. slau On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Jerry, A beta release as you just noted, is *not* a commercial release. to my mind commercial releases are official. If digi backs this, then why have they not told you, firmly, that the changes exist? Karen On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Slau Halatyn wrote: Karen, I'm not sure what you mean by official release. Of course, it's officially a Pro Tools release. If you mean, whether it has the changes implemented in the beta, again, I don't mean to alarm anyone but I have yet to hear of someone downloading the update, installing it and confirming the changes. I'm cautiously optimistic. Anyone? Just asking again. If I have a chance on Monday, I'll try to confirm. Slau On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: So, this is not an official release yet? This is why I am waiting. until its officially out, anything can happen. Karen On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote: no upgrade to get yet. GF On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to note. While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in the beta release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually confirms it with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee it. By all means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were implemented but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded and installed the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have not yet gotten around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else? This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible that things might've changed before the release. That's why most companies ask testers not to talk about beta versions. In case something happens and a feature must be shelved until a future release, they don't want people to have expectations. Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have a chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best.
