wow, I can't believe that we are getting in to this heated debate like this. 
lol Kind of funny. I just wish they would hurry the hell up and drop this thing 
so we all can play with it! F**k all that BS you guys are talking. lol.
In my experiences as a beta tester, Programmers don't want to do extra work to 
take something out of a 99.9 percent completed program. If the last beta was 
accessible and avid was directly in touch with blind people for their input, 
what would make anyone think that they would strip all that work out of the 
final product? that would realy mean undoing pretty much everything they did 
over the last months.
How smart would that be?
Just my thoughts.

GF


On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

> Karen,
> 
> First, please call me Slau.
> 
> Second, Digidesign never guarantees that anything in a beta will appear in 
> the final release. Now, listen carefully: I have no reason to believe the 
> changes were not implemented. I have every reason to believe they are. All I 
> said was that, until someone confirms it with the commercial release of 
> 8.0.4, we can't say with absolute certainty that everything is as we've 
> expected. What did you learn as a journalist? Check your facts. That's all 
> I'm suggesting. Once again, all I'm saying is that we're talking as if it's a 
> done deal but I have yet to hear that someone has installed 8.0.4.
> 
> slau
> 
> On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> 
>> Jerry,
>> A beta release as you just noted, is *not* a commercial release.  to my mind 
>> commercial releases are official.
>> If digi backs this, then why have they not told you, firmly, that the 
>> changes exist?
>> 
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> 
>>> Karen,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "official release." Of course, it's 
>>> officially a Pro Tools release. If you mean, whether it has the changes 
>>> implemented in the beta, again, I don't mean to alarm anyone but I have yet 
>>> to hear of someone downloading the update, installing it and confirming the 
>>> changes. I'm cautiously optimistic.
>>> 
>>> Anyone? Just asking again. If I have a chance on Monday, I'll try to 
>>> confirm.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So, this is not an official release yet?
>>>> This is why I am waiting.  until its officially out, anything can happen.
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> no upgrade to get yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> GF
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to note. 
>>>>>> While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in the beta 
>>>>>> release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually confirms 
>>>>>> it with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee it. By all 
>>>>>> means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were implemented 
>>>>>> but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded and installed 
>>>>>> the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have not yet gotten 
>>>>>> around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible 
>>>>>> that things might've changed before the release. That's why most 
>>>>>> companies ask testers not to talk about beta versions. In case something 
>>>>>> happens and a feature must be shelved until a future release, they don't 
>>>>>> want people to have expectations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone 
>>>>>> installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have a 
>>>>>> chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 

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