Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:43 AM, phill...@comodo.com wrote: > > I try to leave questions of law to lawyers precisely because the law is > not computer algorithm. > > It is not the bylaws at issue here, it is the interpretation of the > bylaws, and that is not the same thing at all. > Unfortunate

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:25 AM, philliph--- via Public > wrote: > I am finding the arguments here rather surprising. > > When counting an election, the questions at issue are always > > 1) Is the perso

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:25 AM, philliph--- via Public < public@cabforum.org> wrote: > I am finding the arguments here rather surprising. > > When counting an election, the questions at issue are always > > 1) Is the person permitted to cast a ballot > 2) What was their intent > > So to dismiss

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

I am finding the arguments here rather surprising. When counting an election, the questions at issue are always 1) Is the person permitted to cast a ballot 2) What was their intent So to dismiss ‘intent’ as irrelevant is off the point, to say the least. In this case we have the concern that the

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

On 17/04/17 04:51, Jeremy Rowley via Public wrote: > Yes – this is a conundrum that should be fixed. Issues with the mailing > list could completely screw up a vote. Anyone controlling the mailing > list could they effectively prevent voting if they decided to manage the > mailing list in a way to

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

On 17/04/17 02:16, Eric Mill via Public wrote: > I don't think Microsoft cast its vote correctly. Microsoft is aware of > how the CA/Browser Forum list works, and should have been able to cast a > vote from a subscribed member address before the deadline. I think this > obligation is especially app

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

/Browser Forum Public Discussion List Cc: Peter Bowen Subject: Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16) Regardless of this outcome, I think it makes sense to clarify that only votes recorded in archives of the public

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Kirk Hall wrote: > Ryan, it’s kind of unseemly for one browser to try to block the vote of > another browser. Google were the only Forum member to vote no on this > ballot – 20 CAs and 2 browsers voted yes. Clearly the consensus of the > members is in favor of th

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

.com>> > Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot > 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16) > > To that end, this was a concern raised nearly a year ago when discussing what > would become Ballot 174, with respect to Section 9.16.

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

, April 16, 2017 6:03 PM > *To:* CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List > *Cc:* Ryan Sleevi > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of > Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16) > > > > To that end, this was a concern raised n

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16) To that end, this was a concern raised nearly a year ago when discussing what would become Ballot 174, with respect to Section 9.16.3 https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

To that end, this was a concern raised nearly a year ago when discussing what would become Ballot 174, with respect to Section 9.16.3 https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007468.html and https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2016-April/007480.html There is certainly precedent within t

Re: [cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

Kirk, I suspect that the mailing list system rejected this email as Gordon is not subscribed to the public mailing list. The bylaws say: "Votes not submitted to the Public Mail List will not be considered valid, and will not be counted for any purpose.” The bylaws do not appear to contemplate

[cabfpub] ]RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16)

This is the vote from Microsoft. From: Gordon Bock [mailto:gb...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:46 AM To: Kirk Hall ; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List Subject: RE: Ballot 194 - Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions is in the VOTING period (ends April 16) Microsoft vot