On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM, David Booth da...@dbooth.org wrote:
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Subject: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:19:27 -0400
From: David Booth da...@dbooth.org
To: community, Linked public-lod@w3.org
In
Further to my previous post here is the underlying case. I hope this opinion
contributes to a more general debate about long term practicalities of linked
data.
The Costs of Cultural Heritage Data Services: The CIDOC CRM or Aggregator
formats?
Please apologize for any cross postings!
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Call for Papers
LINKED DATA CUP CHALLENGE
at the i-KNOW and i-Semantics Conference, 4.-6. September 2013, Graz, Austria
http://i-semantics.tugraz.at/i-challenge/
The Linked Data Cup awards prizes to the
Some speak about linked data, and other speak about linked and data.
How can they possibly agree?
This is really a very old debate, and it can go forever
A white horse is not a horse
http://www.thezensite.com/ZenEssays/Philosophical/Horse.html
Bernard
2013/6/14 Gregg Reynolds
On 06/13/2013 07:19 PM, David Booth wrote:
[Sidebar: A term of art is A word or phrase that has special
meaning in a particular context. (The Free Dictionary)]
A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning
of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic
Web community --
Linked Data. Oo, that's a tricky one. I suppose it might be, like data,
that's, erm, linked.
I don't mean to trivialise, such questions should always be asked. The Web
has turned out to be rather a complicated system. But it mostly works
through simplicity, isn't that hard to conceive of a link
Juan Sequeda [2013-06-12T15:13]:
If I have a NULL for the column age, we can all assume that everybody has an
age (there exist an age), but I don't know what it is. So it would be safe
to have x :age _:age
Do dead persons have an age?
--
Karl Dubost
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/
Do dead persons have an age?
That depends. A body of a dead person belonged to a living person. The idea of
a person can live on. Indeed there are still anniversary celebrations of famous
people's life events. The work of a person can also live on. People are partly
defined by their ideas and
On 14/06/2013 11:35, Andy Turner wrote:
Do dead persons have an age?
That depends. A body of a dead person belonged to a living person. The idea of
a person can live on. Indeed there are still anniversary celebrations of famous
people's life events. The work of a person can also live on.
On 14/06/2013 11:35, Andy Turner wrote:
Do dead persons have an age?
That depends.
Can depend on what you mean by person and what you mean by age. If me
denotes me in an enduring sense, i.e. I am the same person I was
yesterday, then my age is a function of time, I'm older today than I was
FYI:
I am cc'ing this list because the it provides a very good analysis of
the current problem re. Linked Data and RDF conflation.
I encourage you to read on
On 6/14/13 3:30 AM, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
A couple more things regarding LD and RDF:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Gregg
On 6/14/13 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote:
ot RDF) is going to accomplish.
I have to object to that statement, because the phrase 'other Linked
Data technologies (that are not RDF)' already implies that Linked
Data is *not* necessarily based on RDF, whereas that is the question
that this
Given a document date, age is an important feature in disambiguating identity
since it loosely relates to date of birth. It's also used in many situations
where a date of birth would create personal privacy issues.
Most properties change over time. The LOD community has a bias for facts that
1. Trivial Use Case: If you ask my big sister's age, *you* are the dead
person. Her motto is 39 'till the end of time.
2. Wonky version (Autoclass (A Bayesian Classifier from NASA) documentation)
Truncation error will often dominate measurement error. Here the
classical example is human age:
This discussion is getting out of hand. What conflation are you talking
about?
I really don't get it anymore and it's starting to become annoying.
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote:
FYI:
I am cc'ing this list because the it provides a very good
Hi all
I'm a bit lost with all those avatars of CIDOC-CRM ontology published under
various URIs, under various namespaces and confusing redirections
In LOV [1] we have registered two versions and two different namespaces, a
version 5.01 in OWL [2] and the more recent one 5.04 in RDFS [3],
Precisely, they should have both: projected age and age at death.
On 14 Jun 2013 11:37, Andy Turner a.g.d.tur...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:
Do dead persons have an age?
That depends. A body of a dead person belonged to a living person. The
idea of a person can live on. Indeed there are still
David --
Without getting deeply into the current discussion...
On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote:
another case in point: I have multiple times seen the assertion that TimBL's
original Linked Data document did not mention RDF, in spite of the fact that
anyone who takes the time
On 6/14/13 10:21 AM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:
David --
Without getting deeply into the current discussion...
On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote:
another case in point: I have multiple times seen the assertion that TimBL's
original Linked Data document did not mention RDF, in
Dear Bernard,
I will pass this on. We aim to make CRM clearer and more accessible and those
materials will become a lot clearer.
We also some others materials coming out soon that provide examples of mapping
constructs and an insight into museum data.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Cheers,
On 6/14/13 4:36 AM, Sarven Capadisli wrote:
Explain Linked Data to me like I'm 5
Gather the answers, classify etc. The definition that's perceived by
the community may not necessarily be this or that regardless of
the recent discussions.
Aside: Personally I think this discussion is
There's actually no real-world implication of having a single unique
definition for Linked Data.
The Web works quite successfully, and still each one of us probably holds a
different definition of it. For me it's CSS+HTML+HTTP. For others it's
HTTP+HTML+JavaScript. For others it's probably just
On 6/14/13 1:44 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:
There's actually no real-world implication of having a single unique
definition for Linked Data.
I agree. We just need a clear understanding of what Linked Data is about.
The Web works quite successfully, and still each one of us probably
holds a
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