Re: [FileAPI] FileReader.abort() and File[Saver|Writer].abort have different behaviors

2011-09-22 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:12:17 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: Yuck. I agree that's not a good thing to mimic for the sake of consistency. Anne, is this intentional, or just something XHR is just stuck with for compatibility? It looks like a new problem in XHR2--this couldn't

Re: [FileAPI] FileReader.abort() and File[Saver|Writer].abort have different behaviors

2011-09-22 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 04:01:40 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: To my reading, a substep is a type of step. The after finishing... sounds like it's saying not to terminate the currently-executing step; that is, the event dispatch isn't stopped in the middle. Maybe steps vs.

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/19/11 1:56 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you please explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and WebApps vis-à-vis the Editing spec? In

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Why not just improve both navigator.registerContentHandler and navigator.registerProtocolHandler? In particular, why are intents registered via a new HTML element rather than an API? Web Activities addresses this problem space

[XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-22 Thread Henri Sivonen
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/XMLHttpRequest-2/#document-response-entity-body says: If final MIME type is text/html let document be Document object that represents the response entity body parsed following the rules set forth in the HTML specification for an HTML parser with scripting disabled.

Re: [FileAPI] FileReader.abort() and File[Saver|Writer].abort have different behaviors

2011-09-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: I just tried this in FF6, and the behavior is inconsistent. If the TCP connection has been established, then it follows your interpretation, and you get onloadstart, onabort, onloadstart, onloadend, onloadend [1][3].

Deconstructing Intents was, Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/20/2011 10:27 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: While issuing a ton of patent exclusions for something like this would be rather poor, I would frankly rather have that then a spec that doesn't get any attention from a party

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: It seems to me, that by virtue of using public-webapps, it does give WebApps WG a role e.g. to at least comment on the CG's editing spec. [Whether such a role is official or not is probably just splitting hairs.] I

Web Components use cases, was Re: Notes from a component model pow-wow

2011-09-22 Thread Charles Pritchard
I've snipped the transcript to parts relevant to my top-posted discussion. We already have web components; there are two shimmering examples on the net right now. 1. First, there's Canvas. Canvas has a subtree, and at some point earlier on, it was referred to as the Canvas shadow dom. In

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/22/2011 9:43 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Is there consensus within the CG to not move the spec to the REC track? The spec is in the public domain and anyone can theoretically submit it to the REC track, so consensus

XBL2 is dead.

2011-09-22 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I just read Anne's update (http://blog.whatwg.org/weekly-xbl-intents) and realized that while Dominic shared the notes (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/1513.html), there wasn't a nice short summary of the discussion published alongside. I should totally correct that.

Draft Proposal for Streams API

2011-09-22 Thread Adrian Bateman
There has been discussion in this group now and again about the need for stream support as part of the File APIs including recently in the threads about Streaming Blobs [1] and XHR streaming [2]. I've also had several private conversations with members of the WG about the need we see for this

[Bug 14247] New: Add manual conformance tests

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14247 Summary: Add manual conformance tests Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks for your clarifications Aryeh. One follow-up below re contributions to the Editing spec ... On 9/22/11 12:43 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: It seems to me, that by virtue of using public-webapps, it does give

Important: TPAC Registration

2011-09-22 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, folks- In case you don't know, TPAC (Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee meeting) is W3C's yearly plenary meeting, where all the different working groups have a chance to come together, to schedule joint meetings, to collaborate in person, and to meet as groups. It's a really

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: Does it have to be an either-or situation? Given that there are pressures to publish in REC, to have a version which follows various procedures, it seems plausible that the two can coexist. That's true, but there's no

[Bug 14248] New: Merge selection spec into editing spec

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 Summary: Merge selection spec into editing spec Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2

[Bug 14249] New: Define some type of selection normalization

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14249 Summary: Define some type of selection normalization Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority:

[Bug 14250] New: Conformance tests need to test that the selection is correct

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14250 Summary: Conformance tests need to test that the selection is correct Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW

Re: [XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-22 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/XMLHttpRequest-2/#document-response-entity-body says: If final MIME type is text/html let document be Document object that represents the response entity body parsed following the rules set

[Bug 14251] New: Stop allowing non-numeric values for fontSize

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14251 Summary: Stop allowing non-numeric values for fontSize Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 14252] New: Put DOM Range to rest

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14252 Summary: Put DOM Range to rest Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component:

[Bug 14119] Strip collapsed whitespace on insertText

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14119 Aryeh Gregor a...@aryeh.name changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 14251] Stop allowing non-numeric values for fontSize

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14251 Aryeh Gregor a...@aryeh.name changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 14253] New: Add new fontSize variant that accepts pt/px/etc. instead of legacy values

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14253 Summary: Add new fontSize variant that accepts pt/px/etc. instead of legacy values Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status:

[Bug 14254] New: insertText has to handle things like \r, \0, etc. sanely

2011-09-22 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14254 Summary: insertText has to handle things like \r, \0, etc. sanely Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: Q: Why are the verbs URLs? Verbs don't have to be URL's but a URL will allow us a point of reference to documentation, versioning and namespacing allowing verbs with similar names but by a

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: It appears you are intentionally using comments here to differentiate contributions. Is that right? Right. I ask because, as I understand the CG process: before a person can make a contribution to a CG spec, they

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread James Hawkins
Hey Ian, comments in-line. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: Q: Why are the verbs URLs? Verbs don't have to be URL's but a URL will allow us a point of

[indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-09-22 Thread Israel Hilerio
Jonas, This is our understanding on how the spec needs to change to support the new WebIDL exception handling model. We would start by removing all of the constants from IDBDatabaseException. After that, the only thing left would be message. Do we still need to have this class definition?

[widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
I've updated the Widget URI scheme spec, and it's now ready for publication as a new WD. What's new? I completely rewrote it. Now defines a dereferencing model that fakes HTTP responses (so hopefully now will work with JQuery mobile + XHR). New abstract: The widget URI scheme spec defines

[FileAPI, common] UTF-16 to UTF-8 conversion

2011-09-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
BlobBuilder.append(text) says: Appends the supplied text to the current contents of the BlobBuilder, writing it as UTF-8, converting newlines as specified in endings. It doesn't elaborate any further. The conversion from UTF-16 to UTF-8 needs to be defined, in particular for the edge case of

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, James Hawkins jhawk...@google.com wrote: When designing the format of the Web Intents action string, we got a lot of feedback that the java namespacing is not native to the web and that URLS would be a better namespacing scheme.  This gave us the added benefit

[FileAPI] BlobBuilder.append(native)

2011-09-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
native Newlines must be transformed to the default line-ending representation of the underlying host filesystem. For example, if the underlying filesystem is FAT32, newlines would be transformed into \r\n pairs as the text was appended to the state of the BlobBuilder. This is a bit odd: most

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/22/2011 2:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Paul Kinlan wrote: Q: Why are the verbs URLs? Verbs don't have to be URL's but a URL will allow us a point of reference to documentation, versioning and namespacing allowing verbs with

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-22 Thread John J Barton
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: I don't see why. Just have a wiki page that people can list their verbs on and then point to their documentation. I agree here. The standard is sufficient for stewardship. Why won't I create a bot that fills with wiki