Re: RfC: Is Web Sockets API ready for LC publication? [Was: Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call]

2011-09-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
Yesterday, Hixie checked in a fix for 13777. Bug 13104 (Enable keepalive on WebSocket API) was closed (WontFix) but reopened on September 18. Since various group members agree with not addressing this bug for v1, I will proceed with a CfC to publish a LC of the Web Socket API. (Perhaps this

RfC: Is Web Sockets API ready for LC publication? [Was: Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call]

2011-09-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, Brian, Jonas, All, Since Brian sent the original e-mail [1], there has been some Bugzilla activity and there are now 5 open bugs for Web Sockets. It appears to me (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the .binaryType issue Jonas raised on the list [2] will not result in any spec

[websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-09-09 Thread Brian Raymor
The IETF HyBi WG has moved beyond Last Call and has presented the WebSockets protocol to the IESG for approval:   http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg08640.html Now that the protocol is more stable, I think that the current WebSockets API is feature complete and meets

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Regarding the bugs Adrian identified in the e-mail below, here is my take on the status: * Resolved: NeedsInfo: 9973, 12180, 13104; WontFix: 12816, 13178 * Moved to another component: 10213 * Open and considered Editorial (thus will not block LC): 12510, 13162, 13180 and 13172 (not in Adrian's

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-13 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch  wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: Can you list the reasons for why you don't think we will not need any of the types listed in the following email:

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to create a more complicated or inconsistent platform in the future. I agree, indeed that's my main reason for not wanting to make objects inherit from EventTarget. :-) It's a

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to create a more complicated or inconsistent platform in the future. I agree, indeed that's my main reason for not

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to create a more complicated or inconsistent platform in the future. I

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to create a more complicated or

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Olli Pettay
On 07/11/2011 09:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to create a more complicated or

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand, we should [not] do things now that are likely to

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 7/11/11 8:36 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 7/11/11 8:23 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: On the other hand,

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: Can you list the reasons for why you don't think we will not need any of the types listed in the following email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/0732.html I addressed those in the e-mail you replied to earlier:

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:55:11 +0200, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I don't have an opinion on url parsing since I don't know enough about it. However throwing an exception on an invalid URI sounds good to me. I do not think we would want to start throwing on spaces appearing in e.g.

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/7/11 6:00 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: We're keen to resolve the remaining issues with the WebSockets API and have a timetable to get to Candidate Recommendation. From informal conversations we've had, we believe other browser vendors share this goal. I think the current WebSocket API is

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Adrian Bateman wrote: 10213 - The definition of absolute url makes https:foo not an absolute url Open, Assigned to Adam Barth MICROSOFT PROPOSAL: Section 3 of the protocol spec (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-09#section-3) shows the

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: 12816 - Make second argument in constructor an object for future extensibility I'd like to see this change made too. So far there's been two counter proposals in the bug for how to deal with future extensions (which I strongly suspect we'll end

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote: 12816 - Make second argument in constructor an object for future extensibility I'd like to see this change made too. So far there's been two counter proposals in the bug for how to

[websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-07 Thread Adrian Bateman
We're keen to resolve the remaining issues with the WebSockets API and have a timetable to get to Candidate Recommendation. From informal conversations we've had, we believe other browser vendors share this goal. I think the current WebSocket API is feature complete and meets the requirements

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-07 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: We're keen to resolve the remaining issues with the WebSockets API and have a timetable to get to Candidate Recommendation. From informal conversations we've had, we believe other browser vendors share this goal. I

RE: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-07 Thread Adrian Bateman
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:55 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: 12917 - deflate-stream should be an optional extension when establishing a connection Resolved, WontFix MICROSOFT PROPOSAL: We strongly disagree with the