Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-07-02 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:05 AM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: This second part is a fragment, not a sentence, so I'd suggest rewording, maybe like this | ... for an element in the top layer's stack (such as a fullscreen element). But otherwise it seems fine to me.

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-25 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: Also, to be precise, you're not actually clear about what happens to e.g. 'color', which is an inheritable property. If it doesn't inherit from anything, what is it's value? This is not defined, because currently in

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:36 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: Hm, so if I scroll with a fullscreened dialog, the dialog scrolls out of view, but if I scroll with a fullscreened img, the image stays in view? If dialog itself was fullscreened it would be fixed I think. If it

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: You could just work in the explanation I sent in  http://www.w3.org/mid/4fc64100.3060...@inkedblade.net Added a note. The reason this is not very elaborated is that this really belongs in a CSS specification that

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Sylvain Galineau sylva...@microsoft.com wrote: I don't think people who don't live in WHATWG/W3C mailing lists and/or make browsers for a living can read a document like this one - or, say, CORS - and hope to figure out what problems they are/aren't trying to

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 6/21/12 5:16 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: You could just work in the explanation I sent in http://www.w3.org/mid/4fc64100.3060...@inkedblade.net Added a note. The reason this is not very elaborated is

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel Glazman
Le 21/06/12 13:18, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Daniel, Fantasai - please confirm whether or not Anne's latest changes ([1],[2]) address the #2 issue ([3]) that is blocking FPWD: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/fullscreen/raw-file/tip/Overview.html#::backdrop-pseudo-element Fine by me. Thanks. /Daniel

RE: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread Sylvain Galineau
[Anne van Kesteren:] I don't really see how this is a helpful contribution. I fully realize everything is not as good as it can be (and you know I do), but we have limited resources and many problems worth solving. If you know someone that can do a better job on CORS or Fullscreen please

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread fantasai
On 06/21/2012 04:18 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 6/21/12 5:16 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: You could just work in the explanation I sent in http://www.w3.org/mid/4fc64100.3060...@inkedblade.net Added a note.

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-21 Thread fantasai
On 06/21/2012 02:11 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Why? It has no children. Sure, that's fine. Might make it explicit, but really the issue is what element does the ::backdrop element inherit from? Clarified. That's an interesting approach, you probably want someone familiar with the style

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:31 AM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: On 06/01/2012 05:02 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net  wrote: Though it seems likely that 'fixed' is required here, no? The top layer concept is

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: It looks like you missed #2. I think ::backdrop is clear enough. Not entirely sure what you would expect seeing there more than what it already says. -- Anne — Opera Software http://annevankesteren.nl/

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Daniel Glazman
Le 19/06/12 09:41, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: It looks like you missed #2. I think ::backdrop is clear enough. Not entirely sure what you would expect seeing there more than what it already says. Well, the

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Daniel Glazman
Le 18/06/12 13:09, Arthur Barstow a écrit : On 5/30/12 10:38 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 30/05/12 14:43, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Chris, Daniel, Peter - when will the CSS WG make a decision on the FPWD? We'll try to make one today during our weekly conf-call. Please note that we're

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 6/19/12 3:52 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 18/06/12 13:09, Arthur Barstow a écrit : On 5/30/12 10:38 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 30/05/12 14:43, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Chris, Daniel, Peter - when will the CSS WG make a decision on the FPWD? We'll try to make one today during

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Daniel Glazman
Le 19/06/12 14:10, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Given this interpretation - and of course, please correct it if it is wrong - it appears the only remaining FPWD Showstopper is #2 in the first set of comments. Is that correct? Yes. /Daniel

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 6/19/12 3:49 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 19/06/12 09:41, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: It looks like you missed #2. I think ::backdrop is clear enough. Not entirely sure what you would expect seeing there

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread fantasai
On 06/19/2012 12:40 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:31 AM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: On 06/01/2012 05:02 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: Though it seems likely that 'fixed'

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread fantasai
On 06/19/2012 12:49 AM, Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 19/06/12 09:41, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:45 AM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: It looks like you missed #2. I think ::backdrop is clear enough. Not entirely sure what you would expect seeing there

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Daniel Glazman
Le 19/06/12 22:48, fantasai a écrit : You could just work in the explanation I sent in http://www.w3.org/mid/4fc64100.3060...@inkedblade.net e.g. | Each element in the top layer's stack has a ::backdrop pseudo-element, | which can be styled to create a backdrop that hides the underlying |

RE: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Sylvain Galineau
[Daniel Glazman:] That's also the reason why I asked to explain requestFullscreen(). It can sound obvious, but it's not. And in fact, we should _never_ introduce a new syntax, API, whatever w/o saying _what it does_ from a functional point of view before explaining how it works. To the

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-19 Thread Tobie Langel
On 6/20/12 12:05 AM, Sylvain Galineau sylva...@microsoft.com wrote: [Daniel Glazman:] That's also the reason why I asked to explain requestFullscreen(). It can sound obvious, but it's not. And in fact, we should _never_ introduce a new syntax, API, whatever w/o saying _what it does_ from

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 5/30/12 10:38 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 30/05/12 14:43, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Chris, Daniel, Peter - when will the CSS WG make a decision on the FPWD? We'll try to make one today during our weekly conf-call. Please note that we're going to review the bits of this document

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-18 Thread fantasai
Sorry, looks like I accidentally dropped webapps from the CC list. Sending again... On 06/01/2012 05:02 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM, fantasaifantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: Though it seems likely that 'fixed' is required here, no? The top layer concept

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-18 Thread fantasai
On 06/18/2012 04:09 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 5/30/12 10:38 AM, ext Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 30/05/12 14:43, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Chris, Daniel, Peter - when will the CSS WG make a decision on the FPWD? We'll try to make one today during our weekly conf-call. Please note that we're

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-03 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I assumed we were talking about the stacking context of the root element, not just the one that the dialog's parent is in. Otherwise there wouldn't need to be anything about how the parent's stacking context has no effect, etc.

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote: On 05/30/2012 07:38 AM, Daniel Glazman wrote: 1. position: center in section 6.1 refers to an Editor's Draft that is not actively discussed at this time. Only normative references should be made to CSS specs or the

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:02:43 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: | If its specified 'position' is 'static', it computes to 'absolute'. What if position is not specified? Everything's specified. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specified-value Other comments: #

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Øyvind Stenhaug oyvi...@opera.com wrote: 4. layer and layer 10 in section 6.1 are unclear. Layer is used    nowhere in CSS references used in this spec. This must be clarified. This section also seems to assume that the list in CSS 2.1's appendix E is for the

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: Everything's specified. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specified-value Great! Do you mean object-fit? I guess it would be nice for images to be object-fit:contain in fullscreen. (Videos already are.) Yup,

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Øyvind Stenhaug oyvi...@opera.com wrote: 4. layer and layer 10 in section 6.1 are unclear. Layer is used    nowhere in CSS references used in this spec. This must be clarified. This section also seems to

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-06-01 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM, fantasai fantasai.li...@inkedblade.net wrote:  | If its specified 'position' is 'static', it computes to 'absolute'. What if position is not specified? All elements have specified

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-05-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 5/17/12 10:00 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: During WebApps' May f2f meeting, the participants agreed [1] to publish a First Public Working Draft of the Fullscreen spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do so, using the following document as the basis (note that the document does not yet

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-05-30 Thread fantasai
On 05/30/2012 07:38 AM, Daniel Glazman wrote: Le 30/05/12 14:43, Arthur Barstow a écrit : Chris, Daniel, Peter - when will the CSS WG make a decision on the FPWD? We'll try to make one today during our weekly conf-call. Please note that we're going to review the bits of this document falling

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-05-30 Thread fantasai
On 05/30/2012 08:47 AM, fantasai wrote: Other comments: Oh, also, you need a reference to CSS2.1, otherwise your rendering section isn't defined. :) ~fantasai

Re: CfC: publish FPWD of Fullscreen spec; deadline May 24

2012-05-30 Thread Øyvind Stenhaug
On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:30 +0200, Daniel Glazman daniel.glaz...@disruptive-innovations.com wrote: 4. layer and layer 10 in section 6.1 are unclear. Layer is used nowhere in CSS references used in this spec. This must be clarified. This section also seems to assume that the list in