On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Jonas Sicking:
I wonder if this can be fixed in the HTML5 spec to say that when
serializing a whole document, no xmlns= attribute needs to be
inserted.
That sounds like a good solution to me.
Ian Hickson:
We still somewhat want them
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if the UA didn't support that level of DOM on regular
DOM objects too. The key is just to make sure that the objects returned by
XHR are of equivalent DOM support as the rest of the UA's objects.
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but then assume that the author will suddenly stop making
mistakes when we provide them with a way to opt-in to cookies. Either the
author is going to make mistakes, or he isn't. We have to be consistent in
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to know to not include the cookie opt-in header, why not
just have the site ignore the cookies? (It also introduces the problems
that Maciej mentioned, which I think are valid problems.)
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by the
charter of this WG?
I'd be happy to volunteer to edit a specification for worker threads,
whether this ends up as a separate spec in Web Apps or as an HTML5
chapter.
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and anonymised version of
the feedback can be brought to the table. But having an explicitly
default-private backchannel is not in the best interests of the Web.
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functions. We could just say that lack of such a name means that the
function isn't included, and only the last function in an IDL block with
a particular name is included if overloading isn't supported.
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-1.
Well then the answer to your question is that you use ISO-8859-1 or
%-escaping. (And for legacy reasons, only %-escaping in the query part.)
It's not sufficient to encode all IRIs, thus you need to map
IRIs to something you can use.
ASCII is sufficient to encode all IRIs.
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Olli Pettay wrote:
Could we actually just say that if document implements DocumentView
interface and .defaultView isn't null and implements EventTarget,
the event propagates to .defaultView. So
, stylesheets, plugins, etc had to not reach the
Window object.
I'm uncertain if iframe loads reach the Window or not.
Would we want this to affect even author-dispatched synthetic load events?
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always fire last,
long after any changes to the range itself. This will be consistent with
how we're redefining mutation events, and would still allow the range
insertNode() API to be useful and to perform its intended purpose.
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forward into Access-Control.
I have changed postMessage()'s definition to make sure that targetOrigin
doesn't have a path, query, or fragment part.
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Jonas Sicking wrote:
Lastly, the 'URL' token
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/access-control/#url should not be a
full URL, and I don't think we want to depend on HTML5 for it
either. Currently we seem to be allowing
for you.
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in
the HTML5 spec that defines a copy-and-paste API in terms of the DnD API:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#copy-and-paste
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controls than just button?
Fixed in HTML5. There's still no spec that defines that events actually
get fired for user interaction (mouse clicks, etc) though, as far as I can
tell.
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(a design motivated primarily by
accessibility and security concerns) is not widely implemented, though I
have no pending feedback regarding changes to that.
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spec. Please let me know
if the new text is still problematic.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#application/x-www-form-urlencoded-encoding-algorithm
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indicate here.
Yes, that would be good. Implementors? Are there test cases for this
section?
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it makes more sense for spec authors to discuss things together
and come to a common understanding of how to bring the platform forward
(as we are doing here) than for specs to have a concept of a conforming
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. Warning though, this part of the HTML5 spec is
definitely unstable.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#script-document-context
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Things
if it was captured.
This gets around the problem of unbalanced set/release.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Greg Houston wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Greg Houston wrote:
1. You have a fluid layout where the columns are resizable via
convenient too is an overloaded
version of appendChild() that took a string, and automatically called
document.createTextNode() on that string.
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, there's no problem.
Note also that none of this applies to widgets, since the user has already
given them as full a set of privileges as would be possible to obtain
through content-sniffing.
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in the table. But
yes, it should be in the ASCII spec.
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote:
Should I remove or rename 'Origin' in HTML5 for now?
Well, HTML5 isn't the only place where this header has been discussed,
but it wouldn't be a bad idea I think.
Which, remove or rename? :-)
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote:
It's not just POST that we need to worry about, ideally we should
cover the GET case as well. Or at least it's quite likely that we
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if WebIDL or Web DOM Core said what Date meant for non-JS
languages.
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this would delay our reaching PR
much, since all the implementing browsers are likely to reach that stage
relatively soon.
So I don't agree that we have yet proved interoperability at a level that
I think we should aim for. But I think we're very close!
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
http://www.hixie.ch/tests/adhoc/dom/selectors/002.html
Given the state of WebIDL, it's not clear to me that the test 002 of
this test is necessarily required by the spec as it stands.
Yeah, that's why I separated those tests
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
However, I don't think the things tested in 002 are controversal. In
particular, all the UAs have converged on the behaviour tested by
002-001 for other objects
Ah, that wasn't the case last I checked. And again, there's
making sure they don't affect the [[Class]]
of existing stuff.
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Origin
I'm unsure what will happen with this section.
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=refresh, and are certainly already possible with
img elements and onload=/onerror= events. We lost this particular
battle a decade and a half ago when nobody was looking.
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[1]
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-March/thread.html#18907
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As Mark discusses below, the IETF has created a mailing list for
discussion of the WebSocket protocol. I encourage anyone interested in
this technology to subscribe to this new mailing list and particpate in
the discussions.
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is or whatnot.
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traffic has unpredictable timing (and remove the visited URLs features).
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Nikunj Mehta wrote:
Here's what Oracle would like to see in the abstract:
This specification defines two APIs for persistent data storage in Web
clients: one for accessing key-value pair data and another for accessing
structured data.
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answers are preferred (especially if you think there is something
we should be discussing still).
I defer to Lachy's expertise on this question.
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of conclusion on the issue. What are the various proposals
that exist to solve this problem other than SQL, and how willing are the
browser vendors to implement those solutions?
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, doesn't seem to think we are there yet, so I
think it's worth reopening the larger issue.
Given that implementations are shipping and high-profile Web pages are
actively using these features today, we really should come to a decision
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in it:
[[
The working group is currently debating whether SQL is the right
abstraction for structured storage.
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So, the phrase above is already in the spec... the only thing you're asking
now is for Section 4 to be renamed, right? Seems pretty minor.
Correct
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Nikunj Mehta wrote:
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:18:40 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
The draft got published today, so it's too late to change the
high-profile version of the spec. Rather than add this message
for messages from a particular user received
between a set of dates?
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| using
for(var i = 0; i s.length; i++)...
This is in fact possible.
Using the term enumeration to mean property enumeration is also
confusing, but I suppose ECMA script made that mistake too long ago.
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# The key(n) method must return the name of the nth key in the list.
See WebIDL for the definition of the [IndexGetter] syntax.
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, John J. Barton wrote:
And then afterwards the |length| is ? one? three?
One.
If I iterate
for(var i = 0; i sesssionStore.length; i++) foo(i, sessionStore[i]);
what can I expect in foo()?
(0, null), (1, null), (2, 2)
or
(0, 2)?
or ?
(0, 2).
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I suggest removing the requirement.
I've changed it a bit, because it seems UAs are likely to still want a
per-origin limit. But I'm not really sure what to suggest that's more
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Adam Barth wrote:
By the way, there is a typo in this sentence:
A mostly arbitrary limit of five megabytes per origin is recommended.
Implementation feedback is welcome and will be used to update this
suggestion in _the_ future.
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length. Collections, TimeRanges, select
elements, Window objects, History, CanvasPixelArrays, etc.
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Sean Hogan wrote:
sessionStore[2] = howdy;
print(sessionStore[2]); // prints null?
print(sessionStore[2]); // prints howdy
To my knowledge that's not consistent with any other object or interface
in the browser.
Unless I'm mistaken, they both print howdy.
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from 0
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used 10ms for setInterval().
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On Mon, 4 May 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
2009/5/4 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch:
On Mon, 4 May 2009, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
2009/5/4 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
I would recommend to the HTML5 editor to require some reasonable
minimum
they check for the wrong
header. As far as a name for the header goes, perhaps Source or
Request-Source or
Can we just resolve the differences?
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return function (transaction) {
// ... the callback ...
};
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//... n is some identifier
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of the Web API, e.g. the
location.protocol attribute.)
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for it in the underlying platform yet.
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now
communicate anyway (e.g. using shared workers), I really don't see which
this is an unusual problem.
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or double, for types that are supposed to
represent infinite range? Should I just make everything double?
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Ian Hickson:
How do I know when to use float or double, for types that are supposed to
represent infinite range? Should I just make everything double?
If you want more range, sure, use double. Web IDL doesn’t have an
arbitrary precision
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Ian Hickson:
Oh. Wouldn't it make more sense for JS compatiblility to have float be
64-bit? It seems bad to have a type that is 32-bit but then have its most
common implementation not throw an exception or anything if setting a
number
find the various places in HTML5 where I've knowingly dependend upon this
as yet non-existent spec, which might be useful (or might not).
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. Could you elaborate on what
the question is exactly?
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), the
referrer will be included.
* identified Origin (clearly not if I understand the spec)
Right, this will be serialised as null.
If it does transmit any of these currently, are there any objections
to revising the spec so that it doesn't?
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I believe we have such services at Google, though for obvious reasons I
wouldn't want to elaborate on that.
Is this the propoal to which you refer?:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1011.html
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Mark S. Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Mark S. Miller wrote:
If it does transmit any of these currently, are there any
objections to revising the spec so that it doesn't?
Why
question?
Could you show some sample code maybe that shows the specific threat you
are concerned about?
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, and could thus be used with img and canvas and so on.
This would just need a File.getAsURL() method that mints the URL and
returns it. The URLs would have some defined lifetime (e.g. same as the
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the user can set the times where ads should show). A data: URL is
clearly not an option here, I think.
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, HTMLBodyElement's attributes and methods being separated
from its deprecated attributes and methods)
The first is handled by ':', the second is handled by 'implements'. I
think we need the third also.
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. The rush is to get interoperable
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beyond the original lifetime of the Document but that doesn't
have access to the original File can just spawn a new one.
So my proposal would be to make the lifetime that of the creating script's
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Cameron McCormack wrote:
Ian Hickson:
I don't really mind exactly what the solution is; my only concern here
would be that I'd be throwing [PrototypeRoot] around a lot.
Acknowledged. If you can propose a way of defining this without needing
to use [PrototypeRoot
, we'd
have to make sure we don't change the [[Class]] somehow.
Given all these reasons, it would still seem like a bad idea to program
to an object's [[Class]]. Instead, the interface should be programmed to
using feature detection.
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the final decision
is; I can only say what my opinion is. The only people who really get to
decide here are the browser vendors. For better or worse, they seem to
have decided to go with what CORS says today. If anyone wants to change
that, it is the implementors they need to convince.
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anywhere near that with CORS.
I suspect the extra round-trips in CORS will cause many developers to
simply avoid using that part of CORS; especially since it's not
supported under IE.
Wide implementation support is a prerequisite for any feature to get used,
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and configuration do I need to commit?
I believe the working group's team contact can provide you with CVS
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Doug Schepers wrote:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
The Web Storage specification is someone dead-locked right now due to the
lack of consensus on whether to use SQL or not.
I don't buy this argument for an instant, and I'd be very surprised
.
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for the page to even get
to the original photo data, let alone contact the printing site or the
storage site and get them to print a photo.
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financial
information to a mashup).
You have to use the right tool for the job.
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on implementations. In practice WebKit and Gecko
both have one .idl per interface, more or less, so they couldn't use
these import statements anyway.
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an e-mail to some list we all subscribe to.
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in particular forms.
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a URL expires, it goes from
working normally to that error state.
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this accessible as a Web service, I would totally hook
this into my checkin script so that it could automatically verify my IDL
blocks at the same time as I check the HTML markup, cross-references, etc.
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