Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-06-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:39:35 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: Well, we haven't received this request from developers explicitly yet, but one can imagine a situation in which a developer makes an app only

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-06-06 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: Well, we haven't received this request from developers explicitly yet, but one can imagine a situation in which a developer makes an app only for mobile phones (Instagram?) and doesn't want users to use it on desktops.

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-28 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 05/27/2012 12:53 PM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 27 May 2012, at 17:49, Anant Narayanan wrote: On 05/27/2012 05:11 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: Sure, but doesn't that lead to the original complaint that certain developers don't want their application to install at all for PR reasons? In

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-28 Thread Guilherme Vieira
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: I understand the intention, which is to give web app developers some means of steering users away if they are using a device they don't think will work well for them using the app. On the other hand, this is

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: On 05/25/2012 09:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Marcos, Re I thought we had stopped the whole designing for particular screen sizes, etc. a long time ago.,

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
, BRYAN L; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: On 05/25/2012 09:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 1:35 AM To: Anant Narayanan Cc: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: On 05/25/2012 09:25 AM

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
27, 2012 5:12 AM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L Cc: Anant Narayanan; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 27/05/2012 12:36, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Re At install time or when I am browsing apps, how does a server

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 05/27/2012 01:35 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayananan...@mozilla.com wrote: The intent for the screen_size parameters is not to let the developer enforce a particular screen size or resolution, but rather specify the *minimum* width and height required by

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 05/27/2012 05:11 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 27/05/2012 12:36, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Re At install time or when I am browsing apps, how does a server know my screen resolution? Or is this restriction imposed on by the user agent?: When browsing apps, the server can easily access the

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Scott Wilson
On 27 May 2012, at 17:45, Anant Narayanan wrote: On 05/27/2012 01:35 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 26 May 2012, at 18:32, Anant Narayananan...@mozilla.com wrote: The intent for the screen_size parameters is not to let the developer enforce a particular screen size or resolution, but rather

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Scott Wilson
On 27 May 2012, at 17:49, Anant Narayanan wrote: On 05/27/2012 05:11 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On 27/05/2012 12:36, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Re At install time or when I am browsing apps, how does a server know my screen resolution? Or is this restriction imposed on by the user agent?: When

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-27 Thread Guilherme Vieira
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: - If its easy to bypass, why bother with it? (I once wrote a greasemonkey script that let the Chrome Store work on Firefox :) What's the problem? If I understood correctly, the feature is important so that

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-26 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 05/25/2012 09:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Marcos, Re I thought we had stopped the whole designing for particular screen sizes, etc. a long time ago., that may be the still-closely-held goal, but the reality is that designing

[manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Anant Narayanan wrote: screen_size: This object may contain the min_height and min_width properties that describe the minimum height and width (in pixels) the application needs in order to render correctly. Interpretation of these values is

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
these things out of standards, where there is a strong use case. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:w...@marcosc.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:43 AM To: Anant Narayanan Cc: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Marcos, Re I thought we had stopped the whole designing for particular screen sizes, etc. a long time ago., that may be the still-closely-held goal, but the reality is that designing for multiple screen sizes (and pixel

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread Scott Wilson
On 25 May 2012, at 17:25, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L wrote: Marcos, Re I thought we had stopped the whole designing for particular screen sizes, etc. a long time ago., that may be the still-closely-held goal, but the reality is

RE: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-05-25 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
, 2012 12:59 PM To: Marcos Caceres Cc: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L; Anant Narayanan; public-webapps WG; public-webappst...@w3.org Subject: Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs On 25 May 2012, at 17:25, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Friday, May 25