Re: Web Components: two questions

2014-09-11 Thread Ondřej Žára
1) Are form elements (input, select, textarea) inside a shadow dom considered when submitting a form? The Shadow DOM spec doesn't say anything about this. Therefore, form elements should be in the same node tree. For example, suppose a form element is in the node tree A. In this case,

Re: File API: reading a Blob

2014-09-11 Thread Takeshi Yoshino
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Aymeric Vitte vitteayme...@gmail.com wrote: Does your experimentation pipe the XHR stream to MSE? Obviously that should be the target for yt, this would be a first real application of the Streams API. It's not yet updated to use the new Streams. Here's our

Re: Web Components: two questions

2014-09-11 Thread 河内 隆仁
Ondrej, The short answer to whether input inside shadow root under a form will be sent or not is No. The node tree mentioned in Hayato's mail means that form and input belong to different trees. Only elements in the same tree as form will be considered for submission. So you don't have to worry

Re: Web Components: two questions

2014-09-11 Thread Hayato Ito
On Thu Sep 11 2014 at 3:25:01 PM Ondřej Žára ondrej.z...@firma.seznam.cz wrote: 1) Are form elements (input, select, textarea) inside a shadow dom considered when submitting a form? The Shadow DOM spec doesn't say anything about this. Therefore, form elements should be in the

Re: Web Components: two questions

2014-09-11 Thread Ondřej Žára
The short answer to whether input inside shadow root under a form will be sent or not is No. The node tree mentioned in Hayato's mail means that form and input belong to different trees. Sweet, thanks for explanation. (Now only the second question remains...) Sincerely, O. Zara

Re: Web Components: two questions

2014-09-11 Thread Hayato Ito
On Thu Sep 11 2014 at 4:04:27 PM Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu Sep 11 2014 at 3:25:01 PM Ondřej Žára ondrej.z...@firma.seznam.cz wrote: 1) Are form elements (input, select, textarea) inside a shadow dom considered when submitting a form? The Shadow DOM spec

Re: File API: reading a Blob

2014-09-11 Thread Aymeric Vitte
But I suppose that should be one of the first use case for Google to introduce streams with MSE, no? To be more clear about what I mean by back pressure for things coming from outside of the browser: - XHR: the Streams API should define how xhr gets chunks using Range according to the flow

PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thursday, September 11, 2014, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ro...@w3.org'); wrote: On 10/09/2014 18:48 , Marcos Caceres wrote: This is a formal objection to publication of this specification. The rationale for the objection was already sent to the wwwprocess list.

Re: User Intentions Explainer (was: List of Intentions)

2014-09-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Johannes Wilm johan...@fiduswriter.org wrote: Absolutely. if this division means we can get into a saner place faster (and with a higher likelihood that it will actually happen) then I am all for it. Of course the long-term future of the web should be taken into

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Marcos, On 11/09/2014 17:19 , Marcos Caceres wrote: Only once I have clear answers to the following (and see actual proof). I know you already addressed some of this in your previous email to Dominic. I will address your points below, but I will repeat what I told Domenic: I don't think

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2014-09-11 17:19, Marcos Caceres wrote: ... 5. What indicators (e.g., the big red box) will be put into the spec to indicate that the WHATWG version is the canonical version? ... It's my understanding that the intent is to actually make technical changes, as indicated in: This

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@greenbytes.de wrote: It's my understanding that the intent is to actually make technical changes, as indicated in: This specification documents current RFC 3986 and RFC 3987 handling in contemporary Web browser implementations. As

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Mark Baker
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: In which case the WHATWG version wouldn't be canonical anymore anyway. It would be for implementers. Only those implementers that can afford to staff a team to keep up with a moving target. That's not all potential

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Mark Baker dist...@acm.org wrote: Only those implementers that can afford to staff a team to keep up with a moving target. That's not all potential implementers. What do you mean moving target? In general we only change specifications if there's something wrong

Re: PSA: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/11/14, 12:52 PM, Mark Baker wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: In which case the WHATWG version wouldn't be canonical anymore anyway. It would be for implementers. Only those implementers that can afford to staff a team to keep up with a

Re: publishing new WD of URL spec

2014-09-11 Thread Glenn Adams
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote: On 11/09/2014 00:14 , Glenn Adams wrote: WHATWG specs are not legitimate for reference by W3C specs. Their IPR status is indeterminate and they do not follow a consensus process. This is blatant trolling as well as factually

[Bug 25310] Move the HTML specification monkey patching to the HTML specification

2014-09-11 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25310 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Mounir and Marcos would like to publish a LCWD of The Screen Orientation API and this is a Call for Consensus to do using the latest ED (not yet in the LCWD template) as the basis: https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/ The spec has three open Issues, all labeled Future + Enhancement and

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote: Mounir and Marcos would like to publish a LCWD of The Screen Orientation API and this is a Call for Consensus to do using the latest ED (not yet in the LCWD template) as the basis:

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Also, I can't find any normative definition of if orientation.angle should increase or decrease if the user rotates a device 90 degrees clockwise? My bad, I see it now. Given how easy this is to get wrong, it might be worth