Re: Mutation events replacement

2011-06-30 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wednesday, June 29, 2011, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> This new proposal solves both these by making all the modifications > >> first, then firing all the events. Hence the impleme

Re: Custom tags over wire, was Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-02 Thread Alex Russell
Since Dimitri has already said everything I would, and better, I just want to very quickly second his point about where we are today vs. where we fear we might be: non-trivial apps have *already* given up on HTML. Suggesting that there's an un-semantic future that will be *caused* by the component

Re: Custom tags over wire, was Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-02 Thread Alex Russell
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > On 9/2/11 12:10 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> Since Dimitri has already said everything I would, and better, I just >> want to very quickly second his point about where we are today vs. >> where we fear we migh

Re: Custom tags over wire, was Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-02 Thread Alex Russell
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > On 9/2/11 3:00 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Charles Pritchard  wrote: >> >>> >>> On 9/2/11 12:10 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>&g

Re: HTMLElement.register--giving components tag names

2011-09-06 Thread Alex Russell
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Dominic Cooney wrote: >> > >> > I think the XBL approach is far superior here -- have authors use >> > existing elements, and use XBL to augment them. For example, if you >> > want the user to select a country from a map, you

Re: [DOM4] Remove Node.isSameNode

2011-09-16 Thread Alex Russell
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Sean Hogan wrote: > On 10/09/11 11:00 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sean Hogan >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 10/09/11 3:21 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: It's a completely useless function. It just implements the equality operator.

Re: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline October 18

2011-09-28 Thread Alex Russell
I would, again, like to bring up the issue of non-constructable constructors as the default in WebIDL. It is onerous to down-stream authors to leave such a foot-gun in the spec if they're *expected* to provide constructors for most classes (and this is JS we're talking about, so they are) and it is

Re: HTML element content models vs. components

2011-10-03 Thread Alex Russell
+1 What Charles said = ) On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > On 9/27/2011 11:39 PM, Roland Steiner wrote: > >> Expanding on the general web component discussion, one area that hasn't >> been touched on AFAIK is how components fit within the content model of HTML >> eleme

Re: XBL2 is dead.

2011-10-06 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:30:24 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov > wrote: >> >> Further, instead of packaging Web Components into one omnibus >> offering, we will likely end up with several free-standing specs or >> spec addendums: >> >> 1) Shadow DO

QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
Lachlan and I have been having an...um...*spirited* twitter discussion regarding querySelectorAll, the (deceased?) queryScopedSelectorAll, and ":scope". He asked me to continue here, so I'll try to keep it short: The rooted forms of "querySelector" and "querySelectorAll" are mis-designed. Discuss

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > Lachlan and I have been having an...um...*spirited* twitter discussion > regarding querySelectorAll, the (deceased?) queryScopedSelectorAll, > and ":scope". He asked me to continue here, so I'll try to keep it > sho

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Erik Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:42, Alex Russell wrote: >> Ah, but we don't need to care what CSS thinks of our DOM-only API. We >> can live and let live by building on ":scope" and specifying find* as

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
low selectors to start with > combinators.  That seems very useful.) > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> Lachlan and I have been having an...um...*spirited* twitter discussion >>> r

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
Can someone explain _why_ > you can't - under absolutely any circumstances - begin a selector with > a combinator - even if there appears to be wide agreement that it > makes sense in a finite set of circumstances? > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Alex Russell

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
;re discussing here. > Bugs in specific browsers. > > jQuery also handles certain custom pseudoselectors, and it might be nice if > it was possible to register JavaScript functions that qSA would use if it > found an unknown pseudo (this would make it possible to implement most of > jQue

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 10/18/11 4:20 PM, Yehuda Katz wrote: >> >>  * Speeding up certain operations like `#foo` and `body`. There is *no >>    excuse* for it being possible to implement userland hacks that >>    improve on the performance of querySelectorAll. >

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
ith ":scope " > On Oct 18, 2011 7:40 PM, "Alex Russell" wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Erik Arvidsson wrote: >> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:42, Alex Russell >> > wrote: >> >> Ah, but we don't need to care what CSS

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Sean Hogan wrote: > On 19/10/11 7:20 AM, Yehuda Katz wrote: >> >> I agree entirely. >> >> I have asked a number of practitioner friends about this scenario: >> >> >> Content >> >> >>  document.getElementById("child").querySelectorAll("div span"); // returns >> #

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-19 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 10/18/11 8:08 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>> The other "excuse" is that adding special cases (which is what you're >>> asking >>> for) slows down all the non-special-cas

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-19 Thread Alex Russell
arity, for common stuff should nearly always win. > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: >> >> On 10/18/11 7:38 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>> The resolution I think is most natural is to split on "," >> >> That fails with :

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-19 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:22:46 +0900, Alex Russell > wrote: >> >> Yehuda is representing jQuery. I'll take his opinion as the global >> view unless he choses to say he's representing a personal opinio

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-19 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > On 2011-10-18 18:42, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> Related and equally important, that querySelector and querySelectorAll >> are often referred to by the abbreviation "QSA" suggests that its name >> is bloa

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > On 2011-10-19 16:08, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Lachlan Hunt >>  wrote: >>> >>> I have attempted to address this problem before and the algorithm for >>> pa

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >> Lachlan and I have been having an...um...*spirited* twitter discussion >> regarding querySelectorAll, the (deceased?) queryScopedSelectorAll, >> and ":scope

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >> Lachlan and I have been having an...um...*spirited* twitter discussion >> regarding querySelectorAll, the (deceased?) queryScopedSelectorAll, >> and ":scope

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > On 2011-10-20 12:50, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jonas Sicking  wrote: >>> >>> Oh, and as a separate issue. I think .findAll should return a plain >>> old JS Array

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-20 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 10/20/11 7:18 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> No we don't. The fact that there's someone else who has a handle to >> the list and can mutate it underneath you > > There is no sane way to mutate t

Re: Is BlobBuilder needed?

2011-10-25 Thread Alex Russell
+1! On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It was pointed out to me on twitter that BlobBuilder can be replaced > with simply making Blob constructable. I.e. the following code: > > var bb = new BlobBuilder(); > bb.append(blob1); > bb.append(blob2); > bb.append("

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Russell
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Lachlan Hunt > wrote: >> Not necessarily.  It depends what exactly it means for a selector to >> contain >> :scope for determining whether or not to enable the implied :scope >> behaviour.  Consider: >> >>  

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Russell
What Tab said = ) On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Cameron McCormack wrote: >> On 20/10/11 3:50 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>> I strongly agree that it should be an Array *type*, but I think just >>>

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Russell
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rick Waldron wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Cameron McCormack wrote: >> >> On 20/10/11 3:50 AM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>> I strongly agree that it should be an Array *type*, but I think just >>> re

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Cameron McCormack wrote: > On 31/10/11 1:56 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >> >> Live NodeList instances don't need to be considered here. They're the >> result of an API which generates them, and that API can be described >> in te

Re: QSA, the problem with ":scope", and naming

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > On 10/31/11 2:03 PM, Cameron McCormack wrote: >> >> On 31/10/11 1:56 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >>> >>> Live NodeList instances don't need to be considered here. They're the >>> result

Re: [webcomponents] HTML Parsing and the element

2012-05-02 Thread Alex Russell
What Tab said. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Clint Hill wrote: >> Hmm. I have to say that I disagree that your example below shows a >> template within a template. That is IMO 1 template wherein there is >> iteration syntax. > > The "it

Re: [webcomponents] Custom Elements Spec

2012-05-02 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: > Based on the hallway conversations at the F2F, here are some notes for > the upcoming Custom Elements spec. > > Custom tags vs. "is" attribute > - "is" attribute is awkward, overly verbose > - custom tags introduce local semantics > - gener

CSP 1.1 DOM design

2012-11-04 Thread Alex Russell
Hi all, Looking at Section 3.4 of the CSP 1.1 draft [1], I'm noticing that the IDL specified feels very, very strange to use from the JS perspective. For instance, the name "document.SecurityPolicy" would indicate to a mere JS hacker like me that the SecurityPolicy is a class from which instances

Re: CSP 1.1 DOM design

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Russell
Inline. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Mike West wrote: > On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > >> Looking at Section 3.4 of the CSP 1.1 draft [1], I'm noticing that the >> IDL specified feels very, very strange to use from the JS perspective. >>

Re: CSP 1.1 DOM design

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, David Bruant wrote: > Le 05/11/2012 11:32, Alex Russell a écrit : > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > >> On 11/4/12 3:58 PM, Alex Russell wrote: >> >>> DOMString toString(); >>> >>

Re: CSP 1.1 DOM design

2012-11-05 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Bruant wrote: > Le 05/11/2012 12:50, Alex Russell a écrit : > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, David Bruant wrote: > >> Le 05/11/2012 11:32, Alex Russell a écrit : >> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Boris Zbarsky wr

Re: [webcomponents]: Changing API from constructable ShadowRoot to factory-like

2012-12-03 Thread Alex Russell
Sorry for the late response. Adding more "create*" methods feels like a bug. I understand that there are a couple of concerns/arguments here: - Current implementations that aren't self-hosting are going to have trouble with the idea of unattached ("floating") ShadowRoot instances - As a

Re: Please add constructors for File and FileList

2013-02-06 Thread Alex Russell
Greetings Victor! > > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Victor Costan wrote: > > > Dear Web Applications WG, > > > > 1) Please add a File constructor. > > > This has cropped up a few times :) I've logged a spec bug for this > feature: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20887 > > Could y

Re: Monkeypatching document.createElement() is wrong

2013-02-12 Thread Alex Russell
+others who have been involved in the design phase of the Google proposal So there are several viable points in the design space here. I'll try to outline them quickly: 1. An internal lifecycle driver for element + shadow creation. In this strategy, an element's constructor either calls

IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-06 Thread Alex Russell
Comments inline. Adding some folks from the IDB team at Google to the thread as well as public-webapps. On Sunday, February 17, 2013, Miko Nieminen wrote: > > > 2013/2/15 Shwetank Dixit > >> Why did you feel it was necessary to write a layer on top of IndexedDB? >>> >> >> I think this is the ma

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-06 Thread Alex Russell
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Alex Russell > > > wrote: > >> Comments inline. Adding some folks from the IDB team at Google to the >> thread as well as public-webapps. >> > > (I don't want to cold

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-07 Thread Alex Russell
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: > I seem to recall we contemplated people writing libraries on top of IDB > from the beginning. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing. > It's not bad as an assumption, but it can quickly turn into an excuse for API design malpractice because

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Russell
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Tobie Langel wrote: > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Jarred Nicholls wrote: > > This is an entirely different conversation though. I don't know the > answer to why sync interfaces are there and expected, except that some > would argue that it makes the code ea

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Russell
On Thursday, March 14, 2013, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Glenn Maynard > > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Alex Russell > > > > > > wrote: > >> I don't understand why that's true. Workers have a message

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Russell
> something else that negates the annoyance of dealing with async code. >> > > I agree, except that async APIs are also useful and relevant in workers. > Sometimes you want synchronous code and sometimes you want asynchronous > code, depending on what you're doing. > &

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-27 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: > Stepping back a bit, I think we're struggling to ignore the elephant in > the room. This elephant is the fact that there's no specification (or API) > that defines (or provides facilities to control) when rendering happens. > And for that m

Re: RE : RE : Sync IO APIs in Shared Workers

2013-12-06 Thread Alex Russell
fOn Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Ke-Fong Lin wrote: > >> 1) Sync APIs are inherently easier to use than async ones, and they are > much > >> less error prone. JS developers are not C++ developers. Whenever > possible, it's > >> just better to make things more simpler and convenient. > > > >This a

Re: RE : Sync IO APIs in Shared Workers

2013-12-06 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > > On 12/4/13, 2:43 AM, Ke-Fong Lin wrote: > >> IMHO, we should make sync APIs available in both dedicated and shared >> workers. >> In order of importance: >> >> 1) Sync APIs are inherently easier to use than async ones, and they are >> m

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-12 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Dimitri Glazkov > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Dimitri Glazkov >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dimitri, Maciej, Ryosuke - is there a mu

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell > wrote: > > Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance > and, on > > reflection, one that I think we should punt to compilers like caja i

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > > > > In discussion with Elliot and Erik, there appears to be an additional > complication: any of the DOM manipulation methods that aren't locked down >

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Russell
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > >> On 2/14/14 5:31 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >>> Also, I think that the Type 2 encapsulation has the same >>> characteristics.

Re: [manifest] V1 ready for wider review

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Russell
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Marcos Caceres > wrote: > > The editors of the [manifest] spec have now closed all substantive > issues for "v1". > > > > The spec defines the following: > > > > * A link relationship for manifests (so the

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Russell
On 14 Feb 2014 17:39, "Ryosuke Niwa" wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: >>>> >>>> On

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-15 Thread Alex Russell
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Erik Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Russell >> wrote: >>

Re: [webcomponents] Imperative API for Insertion Points

2014-02-15 Thread Alex Russell
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > Hi all, > > I’d like to propose one solution for > > [Shadow]: Specify imperative API for node distribution > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18429 > > because select content attribute doesn’t satisfy the needs of > framework/l

Re: [manifest] Utility of bookmarking to home screen, was V1 ready for wider review

2014-02-15 Thread Alex Russell
if we plow on with V1 without a (required) offline story, I'm not sure what we've really won. Happy for this to go to LC, but wouldn't recommend that Chrome For Android implement. > On Saturday, February 15, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Alex Russell wrote: > > > I further think th

Re: [webcomponents] Imperative API for Insertion Points

2014-02-16 Thread Alex Russell
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:42 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I’d like to pr

Re: WebKit interest in ServiceWorkers (was Re: [manifest] Utility of bookmarking to home screen, was V1 ready for wider review)

2014-02-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > On 2/17/14 9:17 AM, ext Jungkee Song wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Arthur Barstow > > art.bars...@nokia.com>> wrote: >> >> The only process requirement for a FPWD is that the group record >> consensus to publish it. H

Re: WebApp installation via the browser

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Jeffrey Walton > wrote: > > Are there any platforms providing the feature? Has the feature gained > > any traction among the platform vendors? > > The webapps platform that we use in FirefoxOS and Firefox Des

Informal Service Worker working session

2015-07-04 Thread Alex Russell
Hey all, Apologies for the late notice. As many SW participants are going to be in town for the WebApps F2F on the 21st, Google San Francisco is hosting a working day, 9am-5pm PST on July 20th to work through open issues and discuss future work. If you're attending, or would like to, simply RSVP

Re: Informal Service Worker working session

2015-07-17 Thread Alex Russell
Thanks everyone! Started a draft agenda page here; please pile in! https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/wiki/july_20_2015_meeting_agenda On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Benjamin Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Alex Russell > wrote: > >> As many SW p

Re: Art steps down - thank you for everything

2016-01-29 Thread Alex Russell
Sorry to hear you're leaving us, Art. Your skills and humor will be missed. On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: > Thank you Art. > > You carried out this group and community over so many years. > > Your first email to the AC was entitled "Just say NO?" as a response to a

Re: [XHR2] FormData for

2010-09-14 Thread Alex Russell
I have a preference for the second syntax. These sorts of classes should always be "new"-able. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > Hi All, > > There was some discussions regarding the syntax for generating a > FormData object based on the data in an existing . I had > propose

Re: Rename XBL2 to something without X, B, or L?

2010-12-21 Thread Alex Russell
How 'bouts a shorter version of Tab's suggestion: "Web Components" ? On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:51:39 +0100, Robin Berjon wrote: >> >> On Dec 14, 2010, at 22:24 , Dimitri Glazkov wrote: >>> >>> Looking at the use cases and the problems the

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: >> On 4/22/11 8:35 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: >>> Myself and a few other chromium folks have been working on a design >>> for a formalized separation between View and Model in the brows

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: >>> > > >> >> What do you think? >>

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Russell
I do agree the title is important and support either of the proposed new titles (preference goes with "Resource"). One question I have here is whether "Domain" would be more accurate than "Origin". Domain does not capture significance of the scheme and port, while Origin does. I'm updatin

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Russell
Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:52:50 +0100, Alex Russell wrote: I do agree the title is important and support either of the proposed new titles (preference goes with "Resource"). One question I have here is whether "Domain" would be more accurate than "Origin". Domain

Re: [selectors-api] SVG WG Review of Selectors API

2009-01-26 Thread Alex Russell
Can this be represented in a :not() clause somehow? Foisting more work onto script is the wrong answer. Regards On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Erik Dahlström wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:26:18 +0100, Lachlan Hunt wrote: == 8. Examples Please add

Re: [selectors-api] SVG WG Review of Selectors API

2009-01-26 Thread Alex Russell
On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Alex Russell wrote: Can this be represented in a :not() clause somehow? Foisting more work onto script is the wrong answer. No. How about "not yet"? Needing to do this filtering in script is clearly a spec bug. QSA is alread

Re: [selectors-api] SVG WG Review of Selectors API

2009-01-27 Thread Alex Russell
mespaces, but is the selectors API actually going to be this impoverished? If so, I fear it will prevent the actual mixing of SVG and HTML in meaningful ways. Regards On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Alex Russell wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Ale

addEventListener naming

2009-04-24 Thread Alex Russell
>From this thread on whatwg: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-April/019379.html and per Hixie's request that I re-direct this particular discussion here: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-April/019381.html The DOM function "addEventListener

Re: addEventListener naming

2009-08-26 Thread Alex Russell
Wow, I just found this thread again. I suck for having not replied earlier. Sorry 'bout that. Comments inline. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, Alex- > > Alex Russell wrote (on 4/24/09 5:31 PM): >> >> The DOM function "addEventListener&q

Re: XMLHttpRequest Comments from W3C Forms WG

2009-12-18 Thread Alex Russell
On Dec 18, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Klotz, Leigh wrote: OK, so is the conclusion that XHR is implementable only in HTML5 and should be re-titled "XMLHttpRequest in HTML5" or something sim