Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-18 Thread Peter Kristolaitis 
Puppet 4 *only* uses the Java-based puppetserver.   puppetmaster is was 
deprecated and is not supported in the current version.



On 2016-10-18 01:18 PM, Ilia Ternovich wrote:

Servus,

Thank you very much for the answer. As I said originally -- I need 
puppet*_master_* 4 (not puppet*_server_*). Then there came advise to 
use puppetserver instead and mess around JDKs.


Thanks

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Thomas Hager > wrote:


On Mon, 2016-10-17 at 13:13 +0200, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
> I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk
> installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK
>
Well, before managing anything with Puppet, you need a working
puppetserver. And puppetserver has a dependency on OpenJDK, because
it's the only JDK shipped with Xenial.

So, install puppetserver with OpenJDK and write your manifest to
install Oracle's JDK later (you can safely install OpenJDK and Oracle
JDK in parallel on Ubuntu).

But the question remains, why would you want to install Oracle JDK
on the puppetserver? Puppetserver works fine with OpenJDK on Xenial,
been running it for 3-4 months now without a glitch.

Cheers,
Tom.


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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-18 Thread Ilia Ternovich 
Servus,

Thank you very much for the answer. As I said originally -- I need puppet
*master* 4 (not puppet*server*). Then there came advise to use puppetserver
instead and mess around JDKs.

Thanks

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Thomas Hager  wrote:

> On Mon, 2016-10-17 at 13:13 +0200, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
> > I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk
> > installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK
> >
> Well, before managing anything with Puppet, you need a working
> puppetserver. And puppetserver has a dependency on OpenJDK, because
> it's the only JDK shipped with Xenial.
>
> So, install puppetserver with OpenJDK and write your manifest to
> install Oracle's JDK later (you can safely install OpenJDK and Oracle
> JDK in parallel on Ubuntu).
>
> But the question remains, why would you want to install Oracle JDK
> on the puppetserver? Puppetserver works fine with OpenJDK on Xenial,
> been running it for 3-4 months now without a glitch.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom.
>
>
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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-18 Thread Thomas Hager 
On Mon, 2016-10-17 at 13:13 +0200, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
> I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk
> installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK
> 
Well, before managing anything with Puppet, you need a working
puppetserver. And puppetserver has a dependency on OpenJDK, because
it's the only JDK shipped with Xenial.

So, install puppetserver with OpenJDK and write your manifest to
install Oracle's JDK later (you can safely install OpenJDK and Oracle
JDK in parallel on Ubuntu).

But the question remains, why would you want to install Oracle JDK
on the puppetserver? Puppetserver works fine with OpenJDK on Xenial,
been running it for 3-4 months now without a glitch.

Cheers,
Tom.


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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-17 Thread jcbollinger 


On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 6:14:07 AM UTC-5, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk 
> installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK
>


... for anything other than Puppetserver.

As far as I know, puppetserver ought to run as well on the Oracle JRE as it 
does on OpenJDK JRE, as even if we weren't talking about *Java*, the two 
products are very closely related.  Thus, yours appears to be a packaging 
problem, not a functional problem.  I take it that Ubuntu does not allow 
you to install multiple Java packages, else you wouldn't be asking, but 
some other distros do cleanly support having multiple versions installed 
simultaneously.  Anyway, since it's a packaging problem, one approach to 
solving it would be to repackage puppetserver to change its dependencies.

But you need any of that only on the master (as far as Puppet is 
concerned), for the Puppet agent does not depend on Java.  And perhaps that 
in itself resolves the problem, for what prevents you from using OpenJDK on 
the master, and whatever Puppet-managed Java you like everywhere else?


John

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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-17 Thread Lowe Schmidt 
Yes, Puppet server is written in Clojure and requires a working JDK to run.

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On 17 October 2016 at 13:13, Ilia Ternovich  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk
> installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK
>
> But puppetserver ubuntu package has dependencies to OpenJDK:
>
> # apt-cache depends puppetserver
> puppetserver
>  |Depends: 
>   Depends: openjdk-8-jre-headless
>   Depends: net-tools
>   Depends: adduser
>   Depends: puppet-agent
>
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Lowe Schmidt  wrote:
>
>> Do you want to install Oracle JDK on a machine or do you want to run the
>> puppet server with Oracle JDK ?
>>
>>
>>
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>> On 17 October 2016 at 11:19, Ilia Ternovich  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can't install puppetserver because it requires openjdk. And I would
>>> like to use puppet for installing oracle jdk
>>>
>>> Please advise
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 5:26:34 PM UTC+2, Ilia Ternovich wrote:

 Hi,

 Is there any way of installing puppetmaster 4 into Ubuntu 16.04?

 I have read numerous articles in internet regarding importing
 https://apt.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs-release-pc1-xenial.deb -- but
 this does not work. Latest version is always 3.8

 Please advise.

 Thanks

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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-17 Thread Ilia Ternovich 
Hi,

I would like to install puppet first and then manage my oracle jdk
installation with it. I don't need OpenJDK

But puppetserver ubuntu package has dependencies to OpenJDK:

# apt-cache depends puppetserver
puppetserver
 |Depends: 
  Depends: openjdk-8-jre-headless
  Depends: net-tools
  Depends: adduser
  Depends: puppet-agent


Thanks

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Lowe Schmidt  wrote:

> Do you want to install Oracle JDK on a machine or do you want to run the
> puppet server with Oracle JDK ?
>
>
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> On 17 October 2016 at 11:19, Ilia Ternovich  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I can't install puppetserver because it requires openjdk. And I would
>> like to use puppet for installing oracle jdk
>>
>> Please advise
>>
>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 5:26:34 PM UTC+2, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way of installing puppetmaster 4 into Ubuntu 16.04?
>>>
>>> I have read numerous articles in internet regarding importing
>>> https://apt.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs-release-pc1-xenial.deb -- but
>>> this does not work. Latest version is always 3.8
>>>
>>> Please advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Puppet 4 under Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-17 Thread Lowe Schmidt 
Do you want to install Oracle JDK on a machine or do you want to run the
puppet server with Oracle JDK ?



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On 17 October 2016 at 11:19, Ilia Ternovich  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can't install puppetserver because it requires openjdk. And I would like
> to use puppet for installing oracle jdk
>
> Please advise
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 5:26:34 PM UTC+2, Ilia Ternovich wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way of installing puppetmaster 4 into Ubuntu 16.04?
>>
>> I have read numerous articles in internet regarding importing
>> https://apt.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs-release-pc1-xenial.deb -- but this
>> does not work. Latest version is always 3.8
>>
>> Please advise.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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