Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 05-21-2013 08:06, Dietmar Maurer wrote: One thing we need in future is some kind of regression test environment, so that we can do fully-automatic tests of all those storage plugins. While the needed regression test environment include the needed storage backends? If not we will have to mak

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Dietmar Maurer
> The licensing problem only restricts distributing the zfs code with the GPL > linux > kernel. If the user is installing the zfs code himself there's no conflict. > You ca > install zfs on Proxmox by simply adding the Ubuntu PPA and doing apt-get > install > ubuntu-zfs. This is a big problem,

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Adrian Costin
> The problem with zfs on linux is that it is fuse based mening big cpu overhead > and bad io performance. zfsonlinux is not fuse based! The licensing problem only restricts distributing the zfs code with the GPL linux kernel. If the user is installing the zfs code himself there's no conflict. Yo

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Dietmar Maurer
> > > That is not the problem. I simply don't want to spent any work into such > > Software. > > > > > But you have no problem spending work on Windows? > > I have. And I really keep that at minimum. BTW, this is just my personal opinion. If you need support for ZFS, you are free to send patches

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Dietmar Maurer
> The problem with zfs on linux is that it is fuse based mening big cpu overhead > and bad io performance. It is only based on fuse because of license restrictions. So the real problem is the license. ___ pve-devel mailing list pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Dietmar Maurer
> > That is not the problem. I simply don't want to spent any work into such > Software. > > > But you have no problem spending work on Windows? I have. And I really keep that at minimum. ___ pve-devel mailing list pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com http://pve

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread James A. Coyle
I use zfs on ubuntu 10.04 from https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable/ It works perfectly on an always on, always used machine. I can't speak for performance directly, but I am using 12x 2tb hitachi disks with 2 512mb/s rw SSD\'s and it easily saturates a 2GB nic, even with multiple

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:05:35 +0200 Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG wrote: > No it isn't. zfsonlinux.org is stable and useable. I haven't any speed > testing. > From ther FAQ: "To achieve good performance with your pool there are some easy best practices you should follow. Additionally, it should b

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
No it isn't. zfsonlinux.org is stable and useable. I haven't any speed testing. Stefan Am 20.05.2013 um 12:00 schrieb Michael Rasmussen : > The problem with zfs on linux is that it is fuse based mening big cpu > overhead and bad io performance. > > Martin Maurer wrote: >> >> > > btrfs is not

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Michael Rasmussen
The problem with zfs on linux is that it is fuse based mening big cpu overhead and bad io performance. Martin Maurer wrote: >> > btrfs is not stable and is not recommended for use in production. >> > AFAIK btrfs is not even feature complete yet. >> >> and it's horrible unstable... i was runnin

Re: [pve-devel] Fw: Generic ZFS rest API

2013-05-20 Thread Martin Maurer
> > btrfs is not stable and is not recommended for use in production. > > AFAIK btrfs is not even feature complete yet. > > and it's horrible unstable... i was running into 4 bugs (using 3.8 and > 3.9 kernel) while testing it for just 2 weeks. > > Stefan Yes, not the best news. How about stabili