Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] Kap Release
- John Schneiderman joh...@meent.biz wrote: Just wanted to announce the release of the DJ media player sister project. It is ready in an alpha state. You can find the code at: http://kap.nongnu.org . Look forward to your comments and suggestions. It currently only supports the use of MPlayer, but it will eventually support many more players. No screenshots; we gotta actually build it to see what it looks like, huh? :-) Cheers -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 I wondered Why is that Frisbee getting bigger? And then it hit me. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] DJ Player
- John Schneiderman joh...@meent.biz wrote: Actually that is certainly I would be interested in. I'm actually looking at designing it so that it's a single unified interface. It's quite cumbersome to have to switch between multiple windows when running shows. The players will be separate, but the search stuff will be integrated into it's own areain the player. What are you ideas for singer and rotation management? I have added a basic prompt for adding the singer. At last! A coder, who wants to hear my design ideas! (Those are hard to come by... :-) I don't have a mockup on anything but paper, but I'll try to describe what I had in mind, and maybe I can find a UI mockup builder somewhere. Sit down, get caffeine, and don't think I'm placing an order, here. :-) (and, on re-reading this, yes, I do actually eventually answer your question about rotation management, at least in part...) === Divide your screen into 3 vertical stripes. Karaoke goes on the left, music in the middle, 'sound buttons' on the right (look at Rivendell's Sound Panel for an idea of what I mean). Each panel has a player window at the bottom; sort of a stripped down XMMS window. Each player shows the track name, total time, time remaining, and a play/pause icon -- or the background color changes from pastel green to pastel red, or something to show what's running. Each player has a Play button, a Pause button, a Cue button (rewind to start) and an Eject button. Each button is separate so you don't have to worry about debouncing a touchscreen (though I personally would probably go buy one of these: http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys/xkstick.php and put real labels in the keys; I like hard buttons. For each player, you have the playlist (upcoming stuff) and some spill (ejected stuff, which you might need to uneject -- uneject can be a softkey; preferably a popup menu that says add as next, add at end. For the music player, that's pretty much it, except that you need a way to add things to the play list; just a popup search window with (preferably incremental) search -- and my favorite approach is sort all the things that *start* with the string first, then all the other things which *contain* it, like my BlackBerry does with its phonebook. On the karaoke side, though, you need a bit more control. I'm a strict rotation guy: the order you first sing in is the order you sing in all night; new singers go at the end. Some people modify it slightly for new singers; a common one is after the first rotation, alternate old and new singers 1:1, 2:1 or 3:1. But you need new singer, and you need add song for this singer... and I'd really like to have it keep track of each singer's requested songs, and provide an easy popup way to let the KJ handle Oh, could I sing that second song first? requests, as well as snapshot add-ons. (I come from a service employee background, and have little tolerance for uncooperative KJs. :-) Generally, though, the Karaoke play list should look like Drew - Put Your Head on my... (SC8463) JR - Somewhere in the Night (KH27) Billy - We Just Disagree (AH2008) And provide a soft key to pop up the singer-list management stuff if necessary. (I'm a ringer; I really care what label the track came off of, so I preserve that all the way through the system.) (I'm also looking at smart song-request terminals, probably using Fujitsu Point 1600 touchscreen pads and wifi, so external access to the singer management stuff is important to me -- using a DBMS for that instead of flat files is a plus). === Still breathing? :-) As you may imagine, I'm seriously considering trying to take it out on the road and make some money with it, so stability and ease of use in that environment is important to me as well. Things like use windows, not dialog boxes, for management functions, so you don't lock up the realtime interface *ever*, and that sort of stuff... Cheers, -- jra Cheers, - jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin) -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] Time Left
- Kelvin Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Forgot to add that the format for the status message I'm considering is: [Current Time/Time Remaining] Artist - Title Sounds good to me, the Playing text is redundant. I concur, but please let me suggest that you try to make sure the numbers are constant-width, and precalculate enough that you can fill empty places with spaces; having that line jump around on the screen every second will drive people nuts. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
[Pykaraoke-discuss] So, what's everyone doing with PYK?
There hasn't been a lot of traffic on this list lately, which means one of two things: 1) everyone's given up, or 2) PYK is Good Enough now. :-) Ok, people, which is it? Myself, I'm just about to implement, having lined up a potential show at a restaurant a friend just bought. Kelvin: did we ever look into the break the playback window apart from the management window thing? Will? How were you dealing with that? Cheers, - jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Witty slogan redacted until AMPTP stop screwing WGA - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] how to display Polish chars from *.kar?
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Maciej Sieczka wrote: I need to play *.kar with Polish characters. No matter what is typed in Config - Default charset, Pykaraoke 0.5.1 on Ubuntu Dapper renders Polish characters wrong. I tried iso-8859-2, cp-1250, UTF-8 and still those characters are garbled, in the same way all time, like if the charset definition was ignored. Is thare anything that could be done about it? New Year's Eve is coming :). So it is. Any ideas on this, Kelvin? (He wrote it; he'd be the best person to ask...) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Witty slogan redacted until AMPTP stop screwing WGA - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] Not sure if I'm asking a stupid question or not...
[ back on-list ] On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 02:03:52PM -0600, Jack Downes wrote: Hmm, well, what about icecast? do you think there's anway to use pykaroke's ability to display text, and use icecast to send the music? The problem is that for it to be of any use, the lyric player has to clock off the music, which means that the code doing the playing has to all be on the same machine. And if you just ship the mp3+bin files, you're likely to have copyright problems, anyway; I would *love* it if you did it that way, cause I'd have no problems stealing them. :-) I suspect pre-rendering to FLV and shipping to a flash player is the best goal; a version of the cdg player that would permit rendering to a file (I believe the current one won't) is, if I understood boss-man correctly, under consideration. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] New ripper
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:46:59AM +0100, Kelvin Lawson wrote: From reading about other people who have tackled the software-deinterleave process (e.g. the Audiograbber guy) my understanding was that this was a pain-in-the-ass that you can avoid by using RW drives. I'd be surprised if there was anything particularly complicated to do so we must be missing something simple. You said you looked at the bin file - did you compare it with the RW_RAW output from the same disk? If you have an example of the first few KB output using both modes I'd be interested to see it. Could some testing software be whipped up? I wouldn't object to spending the money on some specific CD+G disc (so that we all have the same baseline) if there was something I could run against that disc to diagnose what the drive was shipping over... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] The Other End: ProShow; a playback controller for commercial hosting
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 01:36:00PM -0400, William Ferrell wrote: On 6/25/06, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I'll admit; that's *almost* all I've got so far. :-) Not quite: I have a paper sketch of a screen layout. I need to figure out Glade, which I gather is the prototyping environment of choice for complicated user interfaces. As I've discussed before, though, primarily with Will, who's done much of this already, though not all in one place, my goal is to create a one-screen, full-screen interface that handles multiple playlists (karaoke, background, sound-effects, etc), possibly driving multiple outputs (my Terratec Phase 26USB will generate 3 stereo pairs to feed my mixer), and potentially interface with wireless songbook tablets (my current target is the Fujitsu Point 510 or 1600; the touchscreens of which are 800x600, color, and don't require a pen). How *have* things been going with your lashup these days? I've relocated to Florida (Palm Bay), and am trying to set up shop here as a KJ. Well, no shit. Welcome to sunny (where, by sunny, right now I mean 'rainy') Florida. I'm making some progress in that area (feels like more sideways than forward movement though), I can understand that. but software projects are paying the bills right now. I've got Was that what brought you here? a lot of things as far as a hosting platform working on a by hand basis; I use JACK for low-latency audio production, mplayer for video/multimedia playback, xmms for filler music playlist management and visualizations (projectM), and Firefox to display rotation information on the screen. PyKaraoke is used for actual CDG playback; I don't use 100% of the screen for it, but instead leave a bar at the top and bottom now (top shows name of singer and song title, bottom shows a smooth line-by-line scroller that shows the next few singers and promotional texts). The HTML in use now auto-generates the bulk of the screen via Javascript; I just fill in names, song titles, and group assignments, and mark who's up, and it auto-generates the rest, including the grid, who's next, etc. There's a lot left to automate, as for now I run things by hand as far as firing off new CDG songs, videos, etc. Yep. And it's that by hand stuff I want to package up and automate. And where's your blog again? [2]http://willfe.com/ I haven't written much in it lately, mostly because the biggest reason I moved here in the first place turned out to be one hell of a lie (it involved a woman, go figure) and there just hasn't been much motivation to actually write. Wow. That blew up? Damn; sorry, guy. Cheers, -- jr 'well, not really; it's just what I say' a -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail? Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] Re: FINALLY -- ghod I hate SuSE
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:00:25PM +, Kelvin Lawson wrote: OK chaps I've knocked up a quick proof of concept. Jay, could you try out the attached pycdg.py please? Basically I've just divided the screen into four segments. I now only do the scaling on the segments that have been updated. I'm not sure how it will pan out, so before I tidy it up and do it properly, could you give this one a go? FPS is set to 30. I've downloaded it; I'll check it today. Saw your note about depth; I'll play with that too. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 Space is called 'space' because there's so much *space* there. - John Walker, of Fourmilab, on Trek's End --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
[Pykaraoke-discuss] Rip-rap
Or something like that. Herewith, my wrapper for ripping CDG's.
=8===
# rip a CDG into the hierarchy
#
# written Sun Dec 11 14:34:15 EST 2005 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIPHOME=/home/jra/psk/rips
DEVICE=/dev/hdc
LABEL=$1
DISC=$2
cd $RIPHOME
if [ -z $LABEL ]
then
echo -n Enter the label code:
read LABEL
else
echo Label code: $LABEL
fi
[ ! -d $LABEL ] mkdir $LABEL
cd $LABEL; pwd
if [ -z $DISC ]
then
echo -n Enter the disc number:
read DISC
else
echo Disc number: $DISC
fi
if [ -d $DISC ]
then
echo That disc has already been ripped.
cd $DISC; pwd
else
mkdir $DISC
cd $DISC; pwd
echo Ripping disc image...
time cdrdao read-cd \
--driver generic-mmc-raw \
--device $DEVICE \
--read-subchan rw_raw \
mycd.toc
echo Done.
fi
echo
echo Extracting and encoding...
time cdgrip --delete-bin-toc --with-cddb mycd.toc
rename track ${LABEL}${DISC}- *
echo
ls -CF
echo
eject /dev/hdc
echo Done.
=8===
It probably ought to have an *overall* time tracking facility, and some
logging. And I need to update my cdrdao to permit slowing down; I'm
ripping some bad tracks. (Perhaps a way to run the parser and
re-rip on errors?) But it's a start.
Usage: ripcdg sc 8119
Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] FINALLY -- ghod I hate SuSE
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 04:56:28AM -0700, William Ferrell wrote: On 12/11/05, Kelvin Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I note that it doesn't handle full-screen well (1280x1024), speedwise; is there something I should be doing there? The CPU horsepower is heavily affected by the display update rate, I think v0.4 went out with a default 60 frames per second. I've lowered this to 10fps in CVS. To lower it in your installation, search for fps in pycdg.py. The only problem with this is that the FPS is actually somewhat important; 15 fps is a bare minimum (from the testing on different tracks I've tried it with) for usable singing (it seems jumpy even at 15 FPS, though it's servicable). 30 FPS is definitely better, and 60 FPS is what the hardware players I've worked with produce. Well, only in that they do 2 fields per frame. :-) Apologies, BTW, guys; my last 2 replies were inadvertantly off list; feel free to reply them back on. Will also committed a mod in CVS to use hardware acceleration if available in full-screen mode - sounds like it would be worth giving that a go as well. It's enabled by default in CVS but it doesn't actually seem to help at all (that I can detect). It may just not be working or I may have set something up incorrectly. Having more pairs of eyes looking that over would be helpful :) Hmmm... I made a development version that allows you to send to another X display, but not dual-display yet. Dual-display is going to need some architectural changes... something like a single audio playback and syncing module that sends the display data to other display processes. There's no built-in support in pygame for selecting X displays so it would mean running a new python process with DISPLAY= in front. Don't forget about xinerama-style support -- one desktop stretched across two physical display devices. This is what I use now (the notebook display is used for my stuff during a show, then the VGA-to-NTSC adapter showing the other half of the desktop is used for the who's up cards, video clips, etc. I don't know that I'll have Xinerama support on the Tritton USB VGA dongles I'll need to use; I plan to have 3 or 4 channels of video going simultaneously. I *may* get by with one X server; I may not. Optimally, I'd like to have 4 Xvnc servers and 4 real ones; if one gets locked up mid show, it's more likely to be a hardware server; that wasy i could restart it without breaking the show. I don't know that I'll be doing that on an laptop, of course. pycdg.py plays along just fine by specifying the correct geometry and position, too. I can routinely squeeze 50 FPS out of it at 800x600. If I try for 60 FPS, it loses sync with the audio and isn't usable. Mine is much less happy than that, but, of course, that's at 1280x1024. Can fullscreen mode change the scan rate of the X server? Set it to 640x480x8, and the problem would likely evaporate. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 Space is called 'space' because there's so much *space* there. - John Walker, of Fourmilab, on Trek's End --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
[Pykaraoke-discuss] FINALLY -- ghod I hate SuSE
I have it working now. I had to build SDL from tarball source -- the RPM wouldn't even ./configure, much less build a binary (which was my preferred approach). Building it required installing slang-devel and smpeg-devel, both of which were in the SuSE 9.3 collection, and, I don't *think*, anything else. I note that it doesn't handle full-screen well (1280x1024), speedwise; is there something I should be doing there? My production environment will be a little tiny window on my KJ display, and probably 640x480x8 on the playback monitor (are we doing dual-monitor yet? Or will I have to do an X-splice somehow?); will that be fast enough to keep up? And, finally, I note that my rip was kinda messy. Will cdparanoia properly extract the subcode? Is there error correction *on* the subcode? Or am I going to have to preview all 4000 tracks before I turn them lose? (Will: there's another button for the interface: Problem with track -- rerip :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 Space is called 'space' because there's so much *space* there. - John Walker, of Fourmilab, on Trek's End --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] DJ/KJ in Denver Checking In
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 02:19:57PM -0700, William Ferrell wrote: For sufficiently large values of derivatives. Hehehehe yeah :) RPM-based distributions. Behold this spiffy magic: #!/usr/bin/env python As far as I know, every distro sets up env to spew the correct location of python (the above shebang has never failed to work for me on any system I've tried it on). Oh, yes; I'd forgotten about that. I've seen that trick mentioned before. The only people it might screw are those with more than one python installed, with the same interpreter name in different places in their paths. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 Space is called 'space' because there's so much *space* there. - John Walker, of Fourmilab, on Trek's End --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
Re: [Pykaraoke-discuss] DJ/KJ in Denver Checking In
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 02:29:11PM -0700, William Ferrell wrote: Doesn't the Linux Standard Base (or whatever the [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's called) provide some standard for where apps go? PyKaraoke and cdgtools are small enough that they can reasonably just live in /usr/bin. That's what it's called, and yes, it has answers to such questions. http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/ I'm actually keen to implement an internal MP3/OGG/WAV player anyway; we need that to be able to do pitch shifting and time munging, and then we get seeking (coding the CDG seeking part will be fun ;). Don't forget FLAC and MPEG (being able to rip CD-V's would be cool, too, and, for that matter, the dedicated could rip LaserDiscs with a capture card. Is the proper approach here to locate the already-extant project which is closest to what we need, and submit patches? And, BTW, Will; could you check your mailer for an HTML knob, and flip it off? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 Space is called 'space' because there's so much *space* there. - John Walker, of Fourmilab, on Trek's End --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Pykaraoke-discuss mailing list Pykaraoke-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pykaraoke-discuss
