RE: [PyMOL] Re:Wiki Brain Storming

2005-02-10 Thread Lind, Kenneth
I think a wiki to collect various PyMOL wisdom would be great.  We have been 
using wikis internally for various project and they are very handy.  A few 
thoughts/experiences:

- a plan for the organization (especially upfront) is very important.  Once it 
gets going, it will grow organically.  Having a master plan will help with the 
growth.

- require people to register if they want to edit pages.  Makes people more 
responsible, could help with spam, gives users a contact for further info.

- MoinMoin (our choice), is very simple, python based, and has nice markup for 
python code.

- some examples: 
  * wikipedia (the mother of all wikis... just an example - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page), 
  * wxPyWiki (wxPython... more along the lines of what we might want - 
http://wiki.wxpython.org/)

Cheers,
Ken



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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Re:Wiki Brain Storming


On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:36:29AM +, Kristian Rother wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 08 February 2005 01:44, Warren DeLano wrote:
  Say, what do people think about the idea of creating a PyMOL Wiki to hold
  nuggets of information like this? Or is there a better alternative to
  Wiki now available?
 
 As i have been maintaining sort of PyMOL FAQ for some time, i would 
 definitely 
 like a Wiki, too. Simply because it would take less time for me to update a 
 Wiki rather than HTML pages. Thus, i strongly encourage setting up a Wiki, 
 and i would like to transfer all the answers i have collected there.
 
 If anyone is wondering what i'm talking about, look at 
 http://www.rubor.de/bioinf/pymol_tips.html

I agree, a wiki could make that trove much easier to maintain,
certainly to share out some of the maintenance.

 I know Wiki's that suffer or starve from inactivity, but i never heard of one 
 that got unusable because malevolent users permanently put *graffitti* on the 
 pages. 

Permanently?  Probably not.  But that may be because the better
known wikis are the active ones.  The active ones get attention
from enough legitimately-interested folks to keep reverting back
to topical content when graffiti gets added.  

More problematic has been the rise of wiki spambots, which have
been ravaging some of the low-volume wikis I run for myself.  I
need to upgrade these to one of the newer versions of the wiki
engine I use, which include several different features which
protect against this type of spamming.  

 However, a good Wiki needs to be structured beforehand, rather than having 
 everything grow by itself. Users will add things where aproppriate, anyway. 
 Thus, in a heavily used Wiki its definitely easy to get lost.

Agreed.  To have a better shot at success, a wiki needs to be
seeded with some initial content, and some initial stylistic
conventions (free links vs CamelCase wiki names, for instance)
should be set down.

-- 
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  Biochem, Biophys,  Mol Bio  Iowa State Univ, Ames, IA 50010
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RE: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)

2004-04-13 Thread Lind, Kenneth
The lb and rb selections have changed in version 0.95.  Looks like the new 
way to do this is with pk1 and pk2.

Use ctrl-middle-click, or double-right-click to pick each atom.  The first atom 
you pick will be pk1, the second will be pk2, etc. (up to pk4).

You can then use ctrl-x to get the distance between pk1 and pk2, or ctrl-t to 
create a bond (or use the 'dist' or 'bond' commands).

Ken

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Lobley
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:51 AM
To: Eksterowicz, John
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] picking atoms with latest version (0.95)


Hi,
I had that problem this weekend too. I've found that ctrl right click
picks one atom
and shift right double click picks a second atom. That seems to work
for the 'dist' and 'bond' commands anyway!

Regards,
Carina

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Eksterowicz, John wrote:


 I am using the latest version of Pymol and I cannot figure out how to
 pick more than one atom.

 In the past, ctrl-shft lb, picked the first atom, and ctrl-shft rb would
 pick a second atom.  But now, ctrl-shft rb brings up a pop-up menu.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 John

 John Eksterowicz
 Celera Genomics





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RE: [PyMOL] Another question

2003-12-19 Thread Lind, Kenneth
Avram,

You use the sphere_scale setting:

i.e.  set sphere_scale, 0.2

Best,
Ken


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Subject: [PyMOL] Another question


Hi all,

another question.  Does anyone know how to make spheres smaller.  I 
would like to make the ball and stick looking residues like those in 
Molscript

thank you

Avram
-- 
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Biochemistry and Molecular Biophysics
University of Pennsylvania
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RE: [PyMOL] Pymol batch question

2003-12-10 Thread Lind, Kenneth
It is probably easiest to do this with a python script.  Example render.py 
script:

from pymol import cmd
import glob

files = glob.glob(*.pdb)
for f in files:
cmd.load(f, tmp)
cmd.show(sticks, tmp) ## or whatever you display, color, etc.
cmd.ray(320,240)  ## or a different size
cmd.png(f+.png) ## or a different filename/location
cmd.delete(tmp)


Then run pymol as 'pymol -c render.py'  (-c option is for command mode... no 
gui)

Hope this helps.
Ken
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:09 PM
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Subject: [PyMOL] Pymol batch question


I have a quick question regarding pymol and batch files.
First, I am using pymol to render images of a membrane simulation that uses 
point particles, as opposed to molecules.

My problem arises when making movies of the simulation.  My computer 
(either mac or PC) will not allow pymol to handle the large number of 
points in the simulation to render more than 1 or 2 frames (the simulation 
currently has 25,000 particles in it).  So I have been ray tracing each 
frame individually and saving the png files.

I currently have a script that does everything as far as set up, ray 
tracing and saving.  but I still need to load each pdb file (represents an 
iteration of the simulation) into pymol and execute the script.

I have a folder with, say, 3000 pdb files in it.  I would like to have 
pymol open the first file, run the script and save the image as the 
original file name, then open the second file and do the same thing  
3000 times.  It would be preferable to run this without the GUI.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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