RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations

2004-05-13 Thread EPF (Esben Peter Friis)
Hi Peter  


I'm very happy with the cheap gamers glasses. They are light, much lighter 
than the old CrystalEyes we have for our SGI-systems, and also more reliable 
(ie. when they dont work, they just need new batteries :-) The batteries 
(CR2016) have less capacity than the ones in CrystalEyes (CR2032) but thats a 
minor issue. Note that these glasses only work with Linux if the graphics card 
has a VESA stereo connector (like the Quadro cards).

I also tried some wired glasses (Eye3D 4in1), which were also good, but they 
needed a VGA passthrough cable, which disturbs the signal a bit, resulting in a 
slightly blur image on the screen. The advantages are no batteries, and they 
don't need a VESA stereo connector on the graphics board. We have succesfully 
run stereo under Linux with Xig X-server and a ATI 9000pro card - and 
XF86/Nvidia driver/Nvidia GeForce4 card. However, I'm not sure these glasses 
are available anymore. 


Best regards

Esben


 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Haebel [mailto:peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de] 
 Sent: 12. maj 2004 10:05
 To: EPF (Esben Peter Friis)
 Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations
 
 
 Hi Esben,
 
 thanks for your response. we just bought an Nvidia Quadro4 380GLX and 
 everything runs fast and fine :)
 
 i am quite interested in your stereo glasses. are you happy 
 with quality and 
 durability? we are currently thinking about Nuvision glases 
 which cost about 
 $500 (here in germany).  
 
 cheers
 
 peter
 
 
 On Wednesday 12 May 2004 08:50, you wrote:
  Hi Peter
 
 
  Your posting is a few weeks old, but I could see no replies yet, so 
  I'll try :-)
 
  We have single-CPU Dell machines (3 GHz, 2GB RAM), but I 
 suppose you 
  just buy CPU, disk and memory according to your needs (and money :-)
 
  You don't write anything about OS, but according to your 
 ps line, I 
  assume it is Linux. We use Nvidia Quadro FX3000 graphics, 
 which I can 
  recommend. It is really fast (compared to our old SGIs), 
 and the setup 
  is straightforward. Just download the driver from 
 nvidia.com, run the 
  installer, and add a few things in the XF86Config file (see Nvidia 
  readme file). We have successfully tested the driver 
 (including stereo 
  support) with Pymol on the following OSes:
 
  RH 9.0
  Fedora Core 1
  Enterprise WS 3
  Windows XP
 
  I have no experience with O, but Pymol, VMD and Accelrys insightII 
  graphics works fine i stereo. We use glasses from 
  http://www.edimensional.com/, which are about $100 for emitter and 
  glasses, and $50 for extra glasses w/o emitter. There is also a 
  breakout box for use with cheaper graphics cards, but if 
 you use the 
  FX3000 (or any other Quadro card), you just throw away the breakout 
  box and connect the emitter directly to the VESA stereo 
 connector on 
  the graphics card.
 
  We also have a 3D projection system with two projectors and 
  polarization filters. The Quadro cards are dual head, and 
 the Nvidia 
  driver is capable of sending the L/R stereo images to different 
  displays (requires additional setup in XF86Config, again - see the 
  readme file). So no problems here either. (I haven't been 
 able to make 
  this work under Windows yet :-)
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Esben
 
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   Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net; o-i...@o-info.imsb.au.dk
   Subject: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations
  
  
   Dear all,
  
   we just considering to purchase new linux pcs and i would be very 
   interested in the latest hardware recommendations?
  
   we are planning to use these machines for stereo 
 visualization with 
   pymol and O.
  
   cheers,
  
  
   peter
  
  
   ps. has the pymol Xig Summit2.2 problem been resolved?
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RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations

2004-05-12 Thread EPF (Esben Peter Friis)
Hi Peter 


Your posting is a few weeks old, but I could see no replies yet, so I'll try :-)

We have single-CPU Dell machines (3 GHz, 2GB RAM), but I suppose you just buy 
CPU, disk and memory according to your needs (and money :-)

You don't write anything about OS, but according to your ps line, I assume it 
is Linux. We use Nvidia Quadro FX3000 graphics, which I can recommend. It is 
really fast (compared to our old SGIs), and the setup is straightforward. Just 
download the driver from nvidia.com, run the installer, and add a few things in 
the XF86Config file (see Nvidia readme file). We have successfully tested the 
driver (including stereo support) with Pymol on the following OSes:

RH 9.0 
Fedora Core 1 
Enterprise WS 3
Windows XP

I have no experience with O, but Pymol, VMD and Accelrys insightII graphics 
works fine i stereo.
We use glasses from http://www.edimensional.com/, which are about $100 for 
emitter and glasses, and $50 for extra glasses w/o emitter. There is also a 
breakout box for use with cheaper graphics cards, but if you use the FX3000 
(or any other Quadro card), you just throw away the breakout box and connect 
the emitter directly to the VESA stereo connector on the graphics card.

We also have a 3D projection system with two projectors and polarization 
filters. The Quadro cards are dual head, and the Nvidia driver is capable of 
sending the L/R stereo images to different displays (requires additional setup 
in XF86Config, again - see the readme file). So no problems here either. (I 
haven't been able to make this work under Windows yet :-)


Cheers,

Esben


 -Original Message-
 From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net 
 [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of 
 Peter Haebel
 Sent: 27. april 2004 10:00
 To: war...@delanoscientific.com; al...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net; o-i...@o-info.imsb.au.dk
 Subject: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations
 
 
 Dear all,
 
 we just considering to purchase new linux pcs and i would be 
 very interested 
 in the latest hardware recommendations?
 
 we are planning to use these machines for stereo 
 visualization with pymol and 
 O.
 
 cheers,
 
 
 peter
 
 
 ps. has the pymol Xig Summit2.2 problem been resolved?
 -- 
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 Dr. Peter Haebel
 
 Philipps-Universität Marburg
 Institut für Pharmazeutische Chemie
 Marbacher Weg 6
 D-35032 Marburg
 
 phone: +49-6421-28-25072
 fax: +49-6421-28-28994
 
 email: peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de
 http://www.agklebe.de
 
 
 
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RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations

2004-05-12 Thread EPF (Esben Peter Friis)
Whops, sorry 

You _do_ write it is Linux PCs ;-)


- Esben