On 21 January 2017 at 23:32, Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
>
> Le 21/01/2017 à 12:27, Nick Coghlan a écrit :
>>
>> The Red Hat python-maint folks (Peter Viktorin et al) similarly tried
>> to time things so there was a window to provide feedback from Fedor
focus was on string hashing, the
secrets module, and direct use of the os.urandom() and os.getrandom()
APIs.
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reamline the patch review process for
simple fixes, but it's far from clear at this point whether or not
that will be enough to get the issue metrics moving in a healthier
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needed, but now we need them again for error
detection purposes).
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a.
>
> I'm not sure that a trailing '-' is the right way to mark this. Maybe
> "rc1+dev" or similar?
The "3.6.0rc0+" notation would reflect that it's not a beta any more,
but still comes before rc1.
(While Donald's right that PEP 440 recommends a ".dev0" suffix
s (i.e. the "to work
on X, Y, Z" comments in the developer log), rather than saying "feel
free to approve changes anywhere in the code base". Branching out from
that initial base (if they choose to do so) can then happen over time
as they gain familiarity and confidence in more are
and fixed an obscure problem in the new
multi-phase extension module import system [1] was a genuinely
enjoyable experience for me as a patch reviewer (and the patch itself
was complete and correct, so the only thing I needed to add was a NEWS
entry).
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[1] http://bugs.python.org/
On 28 September 2016 at 03:35, INADA Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> Thank you, Yury and all for approve me.
Welcome, and thank you for your previous work and patience! :)
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t that I
gained my own commit privileges back in the CVS days specifically to
work on updates to PEP 346 rather than due to my work on the activity
of general patch wrangling (which I still generally don't do outside
my particular areas of interest, and even then, hitting a bug or API
limitation mysel
many asyncio related
> discussions/PRs, on python-ideas and bug tracker.
+1 from me. I've always found him receptive to feedback, and he's
illustrated he definitely has the patience needed for the role ;)
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ue: support of the android platform"
> https://bugs.python.org/issue26865
Thanks for the update, and welcome again Xavier!
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appropriate corresponding venue), Guido or the BDFL-Delegate may
direct discussion of the finer details to a GitHub PR if the mailing
list consensus is that the overall PEP is a good idea, but there are
some specifics to work out before the PEP can be accepted.
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org around, just as we kept svn.python.org.
We may want to add banners to point people at the GitHub repos for the
latest versions, though.
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list of current triagers? (even if we don't have
precise dates)
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rather than increasing the number of fixes and
improvements actually applied :)
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ould (at least in theory) be obtained by
mining publicly available information, and instead ask contributors if
they're willing to explicitly volunteer that data in a central location.
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doesn't strip that automatically, so we may need to clean it either in
Roundup directly or by stripping it in the bots when they retrieve the
username information from Roundup.
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r patches (rather than needing to suggest
changes), so I can be confident they've worked out for themselves what
"good" looks like.
(Such a bot would be useful even without that though, as the folks actually
reviewing and merging the commits would still be the ones to propose new
c
to actually work through the details of
getting it added via the PEP process.
I'm also not aware of any explicit documentation of the underlying FFI
from a C API/ABI perspective, which is what would be needed for tools
like SWIG and Cython to support it as an alternative to the ful
at do we know about network security management now
that we didn't know back when the ssl module was added to Python
2.6?")
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that community members actually strive
to conduct themselves, than it helps newcomers better assess "Am I
likely to feel comfortable here?".
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we *can't* assume a shared understanding of phrases like "don't be a
jerk" and "don't harass people" when attendees are flying in from all
over the world.
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Although if anyone has both the C/POSIX skills and the necessary
roundtuits to help move Geoffrey Thomas's "pythonmux" [1] idea
forward, we may be able to settle the preferred behaviour of the
"/usr/bin/python" path once and for all.
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cationWarning by default,
but still hide PendingDeprecationWarning globally.
That idea actually seemed to garner general approval, so I suspect the
main reason the discussion died out was the fact that it's a bit
fiddly to implement.
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my own activities.
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eing given a free choice between
them and their more familiar proprietary competitors.
By the same taken, nobody would consider a community event that
refused to cater to special dietary needs to be a particularly
welcoming event, which is why I consider it important to offer a
free-softw
to
Windows:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2015/10/19/openssh-for-windows-update.aspx
As that stabilises, it may be worth offering common OpenSSH based
instructions for Windows as well.
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eir own entries. However, I figured it
would be better to put the page live and have that discussion here as
people start filling it out, rather than speculating further on the
issue tracker.
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On 12 October 2015 at 13:08, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 October 2015 at 22:33, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Based on the thread a few weeks ago and the subsequent issue tracker
>> discussion at http://bugs.python.org/issue25194, I j
On 11 October 2015 at 22:33, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Based on the thread a few weeks ago and the subsequent issue tracker
> discussion at http://bugs.python.org/issue25194, I just committed an
> initial version of a "Motivations & Affiliations"
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[2] https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/parselmouth
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ssh-ed25519 host keys (it's the only remote SSH host I using with an
ed25519 key - all the others are still ssh-rsa).
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d the RSA key for use on
hg.python.org. Ah well, good motivation to finally generate some
ed25519 keys of my own :)
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On 20 September 2015 at 03:04, Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
>
> Le 19/09/2015 18:45, Nick Coghlan a écrit :
>>
>> That's part of it, but I also think we (as in those of us with commit
>> privileges that are also professional developers) bear the
>
On 20 Sep 2015 00:02, "Antoine Pitrou" wrote:
>
>
> It doesn't sound like the devguide is ideally the right place for it.
>
> Actually, for a guide devoted to attract new contributors, saying "hey,
> we'd really like you to contribute on a volunteer basis, but here is a
> list
On 20 Sep 2015 02:40, "Barry Warsaw" <ba...@python.org> wrote:
>
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 03:43 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>
> >As such, what do folks think of the idea of a new, *opt-in* section in
> >the developer guide, similar to the current experts index, but
&g
On 24 Jul 2015 01:38, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote:
I wonder about the new PSF infraestructure/programming volunteers.
Never heard of them and I am more than willing to help out.
The infra team handles the back end servers for PyPI, PyCon, python.org, et
al.
Folks with the keys to the kingdom
, helpful reviews and
patches from Martin Panter.
+1 from me as well. I was actually thinking of Martin when I wrote the
comment David referenced, but hadn't done the research to look into
his wider involvement in tracker discussions.
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On 17 July 2015 at 01:49, Meador Inge mead...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Given the global nature of the lists, I think we should be giving
folks *at least* 24 hours to reply to a question before assuming
they're not going
On 16 July 2015 at 14:16, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:29:52PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
[...]
I think their guidelines align pretty well with the way we try to run
the CPython issue tracker and the core mailing lists, but we don't
currently spell out
don't
currently spell out those expectations for newcomers (or potential
newcomers) as clearly as they have.
Would folks mind if I drafted a CPython Code of Conduct inspired by
their example, and proposed it for inclusion in the Developer's Guide?
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On 28 Jun 2015 8:57 pm, Tal Einat talei...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 June 2015 at 15:08, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net
wrote:
I'm happy to provide on demand reviews. I an take on the backporting
easily
enough
On 28 June 2015 at 00:47, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27.06.15 14:35, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I also added you to the nosy list for the contextlib issue
that Serhiy originally pinged me about :)
The patch already was approved by you. I reviewed the patch and it LGTM too.
I
/ncoghlan/contextlib2/, but the main problem with
it is that it's old CI service went away, and I never got around to
finding a replacement.
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On 27 June 2015 at 20:42, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nick,
I've added myself to dis contextlib modules on the experts list.
Thanks! I also added you to the nosy list for the contextlib issue
that Serhiy originally pinged me about :)
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work that I struggle to find the time
for :(
The affected modules:
* contextlib
* dis
* runpy
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On 13 May 2015 03:47, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:05 PM Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
[SNIP]
What do you think? My votes are as follows:
Workflow 0: -0.5
Workflow 1: +1
Workflow 2: +0.5
Please cast your votes,
Workflow 0: -0
string, rather than 2.7.10-.
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combine
posting a patch series with the rebase if needed setting for
submitting approved changes. It's not a model Kallithea currently
supports, but it's one I'd like to see it handle at some point in the
future)
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On 14 November 2014 12:08, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 November 2014 09:04, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
Hey all,
Since I've gotten a couple of requests now for MSDN renewals, I may as
well try to do them in a big batch. If you have an MSDN subscription
On 9 Oct 2014 02:34, Antoine Pitrou anto...@python.org wrote:
Le 04/10/2014 07:47, Michael Foord a écrit :
On 4 Oct 2014, at 11:15, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
hgaccou...@python.org
Thanks. I've forwarded this to Robert.
For the record, he hasn't contacted us
(*cough*totally*cough*) biased, but attempting to
accommodate redistributors when it doesn't place any excessive demands
on the upstream release cycle sounds like a fine approach to me :)
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Why is Anatoly posting to python-dev? I thought he was banned when he was
banned from the tracker.
I refuse to waste my time trying to reason with him, and I consider the
just ignore him approach to be unacceptable, as it leaves him free to
waste everyone *else's* time trying to break through his
for a status update.
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On 16 Apr 2014 21:07, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:02:31 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 4/16/2014 4:49 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
Apologies for the cross post, but I want to make sure committers who
aren't reading python-dev for one
On 18 Mar 2014 07:37, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I modified the Misc/NEWS file:
* I moved 3.3 sections to Misc/HISTORY: items were already present,
but the format in Misc/NEWS was improved (changeset 6ba468d4fa96)
* I removed 3.4.1 section: changes of 3.4 after
On 11 Mar 2014 09:10, Antoine Pitrou anto...@python.org wrote:
On lun., 2014-03-10 at 16:02 -0700, Alex Gaynor wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to propose Brian Kearns for commit. He's been a committer on
PyPy for about a year and a half now, and in particular he's done a
bunch of Python
always the option of
pinging core-mentors...@python.org with any specific questions).
Steven: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
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On 26 January 2014 02:14, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On dim., 2014-01-26 at 01:40 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I think an extra beta is still a good idea, though - I'd like to get
at least the builtins that are already supported converted, since that
clearly demonstrates
integration (http://bugs.python.org/issue20264)
4. Adding a commit hook that ensures clinic files have been
regenerated prior to commit/push
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steps :)
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P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGLMe2dyx6k goes into more detail
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On 19 January 2014 20:59, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On dim., 2014-01-19 at 15:34 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Rather than suggesting wholesale changes to our own infrastructure,
what I am suggesting we consider is devoting time (and potentially PSF
funding) to getting Zuul
trying to figure out how his profile is different from Vajrasky's
profile. By the way, I also proposed to mentor Vajrasky.
Victor
Le 19 janv. 2014 21:34, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu a écrit :
On 1/19/2014 1:30 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to suggest granting commit access to Yury
of things.
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the infrastructure and community in place to maintain a
CPython 2 fork, so backporting a few additional changes from CPython 3
really doesn't make a big difference to that workload.
Cheers,
Nick.
K
From: Nick Coghlan [mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 7:51
On 16 Jan 2014 21:54, Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com
wrote:
I suppose different projects have different ways, but I'm actually
talking about commercial projects with which I am somewhat familiar.
Once a project goes into feature freeze, it is branched off so that
continued feature
On 17 Jan 2014 01:02, Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com
wrote:
The hope is that by not adding features to 2.x, people will flock around
3.x en masse :)
Very few of us think that way - it's that we think Python 3 is a better
language in most ways, and it is certainly much easier and
On 17 Jan 2014 03:25, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote:
четвер, 16-січ-2014 15:03:28 Georg Brandl написано:
Am 16.01.2014 14:47, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
The question is less for us than for occasional contributors who see
their patches or feature requests languish on the
ways we can better combine
efforts, and that we can definitely accommodate 5 people, but to check
with you regarding numbers if more OREC folks will be in Montreal for
the summit day and would like to attend.
Which day is the summit again? April 6th?
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On 8 Jan 2014 17:06, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 08.01.2014 03:23, schrieb Benjamin Peterson:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014, at 06:06 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 8 Jan 2014 08:44, Eric V. Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 1/7/2014 7:33 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
A PyPI module
On 9 Jan 2014 02:34, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 08.01.2014 11:08, schrieb Nick Coghlan:
On 8 Jan 2014 17:06, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net mailto:
g.bra...@gmx.net
wrote:
Am 08.01.2014 03:23, schrieb Benjamin Peterson:
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014, at 06:06 PM, Nick Coghlan
On 8 Jan 2014 07:11, A.M. Kuchling a...@amk.ca wrote:
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 02:37:22PM -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote:
Just to be clear, this is exactly what I mean. I'm not saying AC is not
worth it; I'm questioning the timing.
Agreed; let's try to avoid far-ranging sets of changes so late
On 8 Jan 2014 08:44, Eric V. Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 1/7/2014 7:33 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
A PyPI module is not so great because you'll have to change every
formatting operation to use a function from a module rather than the %
operator or the format method.
I think this
On 8 Jan 2014 10:36, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 01/07/2014 06:06 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Addressing the key remaining barriers to migration for existing Python 2
users would be an excellent objective to attain before we end upstream
support for Python 2.7, but it's one
On 7 Jan 2014 07:34, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/06/2014 02:21 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 06, 2014, at 01:34 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
The thing is, I feel like this is borderline between bug fix and new
feature.
But without adding this, we would make a lot of the
we're falling into the Ostracizers are Evil trap in refusing to ban
Anatoly despite on ongoing pattern of detrimental behaviour that has
persisted over years:
http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html
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and at least get
him out of everyone's hair.
We tried to get him to be a productive contributor, it's time to admit
we failed, and stop him being a drag on everyone else.
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on his
behalf.
I'm willing to be the bearer of bad news, and let Anatoly know this is
being done, and cc' Guido and Ezio (as I'll also pass along their
offers of assistance).
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of ignoring Anatoly.
(And FTR I don't think I'm wasting my time -- if anything I'm
sharpening my already nearly-limitless patience ;).
It took about three years of actively trying to help him for Anatoly
to exhaust mine :P
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to come!
Welcome and thanks for finally resolving that long standing test suite
limitation where the embedding tests couldn't be run on Windows :)
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On 1 Nov 2013 13:50, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
Hi all,
What do you think about giving commit access to Zachary Ware? He's
been active on the tracker for a while and has contributed a good bit
of Windows code.
I'm not doing much Windows stuff these days, and unfortunately I
On 31 Oct 2013 00:31, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 30.10.13 15:13, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
Now that 2.6.9 is out, I wonder if there's anything we can or
should do to the Mercurial repository to explicitly prevent commits
to the 2.6 branch? We have we done to older branches?
On 31 Oct 2013 01:54, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Oct 31, 2013, at 01:28 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
There's a trick to get the PEP 0 generator to move the release PEP to the
historical section, too. I'd have to look at the source code to remember
what it is, though.
elif
be fixed now given my last push. On a
second review, I actually understood the rationale behind Jeremy's
proposed test patch in http://bugs.python.org/issue18396 and accepted
it.
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, but this
early in the cycle erring on the side of just ship it is a good way
to go.
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On 3 Aug 2013 10:25, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote:
On 08/02/2013 02:00 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Forward means what? Earlier or later?
(intuitively, I'd say earlier, but that doesn't seem very consistent
with your explanations)
Your intuition is the opposite of mine. When I
I don't see any entries in the Changes column when I look at a
filtered BuildBot waterfall like
http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall?category=3.x.stable
Is that expected? A bug in our BuildBot setup? A bug in BuildBot itself?
(This is in Firefox 22 on Fedora 18)
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that arise due to changes in the underlying
platforms seem to be the two main reasons we do it :)
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the tooling to merge the
NEWS entries and clear NEWS.next before we can next do a release for
3.3 and 3.4, and Georg and Larry are happy with that notion.
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On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
The 3.3 branch layout would look like this:
NEWS.next/
3.3.txt # Categorised changes
Categorized how? E.g. Core,Lib,Docs, etc.? Or 3.3
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