Am 03.11.2010 03:35, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:57:48 -0700
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
How could we have split the module into a package in a way that matched the
API, whilst still retaining backwards compatibility with the old API? We
had
no choice but to
Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 23:38:12, vous avez écrit :
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Victor Stinner
victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote:
I don't know how to ignore the BytesWarning without importing warning.
How can I do that?
I was suggesting trying to fix the bootstrap issue so you
On 03/11/2010 02:57, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 19:50, Michael Foordfuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 02/11/2010 02:35, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 03:42, Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.netwrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:06:37 -0400
Alexander
2010/11/3 Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com:
Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 23:38:12, vous avez écrit :
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Victor Stinner
victor.stin...@haypocalc.com wrote:
I don't know how to ignore the BytesWarning without importing warning.
How can I do that?
I was
On 11/03/2010 01:47 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
If someone wants to depend on some undocumented detail of the
directory layout it's their problem (like people depending on bytecode
and other stuff).
I would say that names without a single leading underscore are part of
the public API, whether
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
Warnings is loaded every time anyway.
I would have agreed with you, but the contents of sys.modules in a
just-started interactive interpreter suggests that isn't true any more
(which surprised me).
Cheers,
Nick.
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big commitment.
Each of the individual file names becomes a permanent part of the API. Even
future additional splits are precluded because it
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big commitment.
Each of the individual file names becomes a permanent part of the API. Even
future
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 14:16 +, Michael Foord a écrit :
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big
commitment. Each of the
On 03/11/2010 14:17, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 14:16 +, Michael Foord a écrit :
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 14:26 +, Michael Foord a écrit :
Interesting. We made some fixes before 2.7 to ensure they were copyable,
but we fixed this in the copy module. TestCase instances now store some
method objects in a dictionary which may make them unpickleable, so that
On 03/11/2010 14:26, Michael Foord wrote:
On 03/11/2010 14:17, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 14:16 +, Michael Foord a écrit :
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like
On 11/3/10 10:16 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big
commitment. Each of the individual file names becomes a
On Nov 03, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Is this a case where it would be better if the package names had the
leading underscore: ‘_utils’, ‘_suite’, etc.?
Does the convention on single-leading-underscore identifiers as “don't
rely on this name staying the same in future versions” hold
On Nov 03, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I don't agree with this. Until it's documented, it's an implementation
detail and should be able to change without notice.
If someone wants to depend on some undocumented detail of the directory
layout it's their problem (like people depending
On 03/11/2010 14:53, Eric Smith wrote:
On 11/3/10 10:16 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big
commitment. Each of
2010/11/3 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org
wrote:
Warnings is loaded every time anyway.
I would have agreed with you, but the contents of sys.modules in a
just-started interactive interpreter suggests that isn't true
On 11/3/10 10:53 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
The problem is that there is no unittest.loader in 2.4, and
unittest.loader.TestLoader is the name that the 2.7 pickle creates. We
see this problem every time we try and move anything in the stdlib.
And BTW: for me, this is the strongest reason not to
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
..
To spout a somewhat contrarian opinion, I just browsed the new
unittest package, and the structure seems reasonable to me, even if
its submodules are not particularly reusable. I've used this kind of
style for
On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
On 11/3/10 10:53 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
The problem is that there is no unittest.loader in 2.4, and
unittest.loader.TestLoader is the name that the 2.7 pickle creates. We
see this problem every time we try and move anything in the stdlib.
Hi,
Python code coverage doesn't include any .py files. What happened?
http://coverage.livinglogic.de/
Did it work before?
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On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:04 PM, James Y Knight wrote:
This is the strongest reason why I recommend to everyone I know that they not
use pickle for storage they'd like to keep working after upgrades [not just
of stdlib, but other 3rd party software or their own software]. :)
+1.
Twisted
On 03/11/2010 14:53, Eric Smith wrote:
On 11/3/10 10:16 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
On 03/11/2010 14:05, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a decision to split a module into a package is a big
commitment. Each of
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:26:53 +
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Antoine is firmly of the opinion that making TestCase instances
unpickleable is a feature...
Apparently you didn't really understand me. I'm of the opinion that
making TestCase instances pickleable is useless
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:26:53 +
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Antoine is firmly of the opinion that making TestCase instances
unpickleable is a feature...
Apparently you didn't really understand
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 15:48 -0400, Jesse Noller a écrit :
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:26:53 +
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Antoine is firmly of the opinion that making TestCase instances
On 03/11/2010 19:48, Jesse Noller wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:26:53 +
Michael Foordfuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Antoine is firmly of the opinion that making TestCase instances
unpickleable is a feature...
On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
This may not be a problem for smart tools, but for me and a simple
editor what used to be:
Maybe this is the real problem? It's 2010, we should all be far enough beyond
EDLIN that our editors can jump to the definition of a Python
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
..
Maybe ship with a command that says hey, somewhere on sys.path,
there is a class with this name. Please run '$EDITOR file +line' (or the
current OS's equivalent) so I can look at the source code.
Well, we
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2010/11/3 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org
wrote:
Warnings is loaded every time anyway.
I would have agreed with you, but the contents of
On 10/31/10 4:39 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
What are your thoughts on adding a str.format_from_mapping (or similar
name, maybe the suggested format_map) to 3.2? See
http://bugs.python.org/issue6081 . This method would be similar to
%(foo)s %(bar)s % d, where d is a dict (or rather any mapping
Hi,
While this is not strictly related to python development, I thought that
developers of python might be interested in some of the lessons provided
by this. So forgive me if this is really wrong for this list...
Recently Arch Linux did a big transition with respect to python. Now we
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